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p.20 #1 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Amazin!
I did download the full rez jpg's and had a look in PS... wow the details is staggering!
I felt I could push the shadows a LOT more than my lowly 1D2 pix'es :eye:

Not sure I have the guts to try playing with the RAW's... that will make me loose $4,5k faster than I expected!

If I could order it tonigh I would get over-night shipment
I WANT IT!
/Lasse

DaveMart wrote:
Samples at IR on the 1DIII - hands on to follow:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1172383728.html
I think it is safe to say that Dave is impresssed!
Regards,




Feb 26, 2007 at 06:30 PM
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p.20 #2 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


You know, supply and demand works both ways. An Internet wide boycott for a couple of weeks would drop the price real quick and generate huge a backlash that will take millions in advertising to overcome. We need to wait and see what Canon does with the pricing but we should be prepared to man the barricades if it comes to that.


Feb 26, 2007 at 06:31 PM
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p.20 #3 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Hrow: $4K is my max and that's really pushing it.

I am in the same boat. I do not want to sound cheap but it is a psychological barrier for me. I got excited about 1D mkIII because it met my needs and price range. I am not certain what I would do if they go above but I am not going to pay any premium for sure. By the way, we all have this $3999 in our copies of the White Paper.



Feb 26, 2007 at 07:11 PM
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mfurman wrote:
I am in the same boat. I do not want to sound cheap but it is a psychological barrier for me. I got excited about 1D mkIII because it met my needs and price range. I am not certain what I would do if they go above but I am not going to pay any premium for sure. By the way, we all have this $3999 in our copies of the White Paper.


Michael I was so geared up for this and trying to think of ways to make it fly and all I saw was lots of $$$$$. So I baught a used "N" instead and it was only $$$.
God I love this expensive hobby.

Dan


Edited by mrclark321 on Feb 26, 2007 at 08:39 PM GMT



Feb 26, 2007 at 07:28 PM
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p.20 #5 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


L. H. Smith wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong ;-)



It is I that stands corrected - your well written post made a lot of sense and so I tried out what you said. If the diopter is off but you MF as best you can and then fix the diopter setting, the image in the viewfinder is still in focus without readjusting the MF.

Now I'll have to find something else to blame for what is obviously just shoddy technique

--Grant



Feb 26, 2007 at 07:33 PM
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DigitalDreamer wrote:
My cousin in Boston said that Hunts Photo had the 1dmkIII listed and accepting orders @ a price of $3999.99. He called Hunts Photo up when he could no longer find the add, they responded saying that Canon made them pull it down. They said that they have not set a price in stone yet.. I can see the $4,599.99 price tag rite now. All this after they clearly stated that they would price it at the same price as of the 1dmkIIn.

Below is a quote from their white paper...........


Some of the white papers have had that text with an exact price changed, and then there is this:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=22222053



Feb 26, 2007 at 07:36 PM
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p.20 #7 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


mrclark321: Michael I was so geared up for this and trying to think of ways to make it fly

Dan, I sent you an e-mail



Feb 26, 2007 at 07:38 PM
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p.20 #8 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


First, I'd say that in the mind of Canon, their cameras should be compared within comparable generations. Let's say that's roughly along the line of the Digic series: DIGIC II DSLRs should be compared to DIGIC II SLRs, DIGIC III DSLRS should be compared to DIGIC III DSLRs.

We haven't seen the DIGIC III 5D yet--we don't know that it won't slightly surpass the 1D MkII in basic image quality while still being clearly inferior in most other aspects and significantly less expensive...just as it is comparing the DIGIC II cameras.

Nor have we seen the DIGIC III 1Ds Mk III.

But what we see in the DIGIC III 1D gives us some things to expect in the rest of the DIGIC III line. I suspect Canon will maintain the same relationships they built in the DIGIC II line.



Feb 26, 2007 at 08:28 PM
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p.20 #9 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Do they plan on discontinuing the mark2N? My thinking is if they plan on selling it awhile longer (only been out a yr.) , they may price the 1DMark3 around 4500 which would still make the N a money maker for the lower level D series.They may be feeling out the hype on this as far as pricing.


Feb 26, 2007 at 08:29 PM
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I don't think we can tell much from the samples. I'm just hoping there will be some people at PMA who will make a few images with their 5D's and offer comparisons.




Feb 26, 2007 at 08:48 PM
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brainiac wrote:
That's the question. If the 1DsII had had an 8fps mode how many sports shooters would have preferred it? The facility for extra resolution doesn't hurt. How many more D2h/x users would have switched. How much cheaper could it have been bearing in mind they would probably have sold twice as many? How many 5D buyers would have stretched to the extra expenditure. A single comprehensive flagship with 8fps, 17MP and a keener price would be a potent product by which I myself would be much more tempted. I don't see why we must always be made to choose between
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No it's a business reason.

Two models means more sales. A combined model means less sales, business 101.



Feb 26, 2007 at 08:59 PM
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brainiac wrote:
But you can get away with buying 2 bodies instead of 3 as a previous poster suggested. If you priced the hybrid between the current N and S it might even work out cheaper for the photographer while still providing Canon with profit by appealing to a wider market. I am not saying they could have done that, but I understand the cost of sensor fabrication runs is significant. Surely there are major economies of scale to be had by building twice as many.

2 busses? Can't you always parallelise the problem? I shudder to think how they get two DiG!C
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How is selling a photographer 2 bodies instead of 3 good for Canon? You are looking at this from the wong perspective (a buyer rather than a seller).



Feb 26, 2007 at 09:03 PM
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DigitalDreamer wrote:
I was just at my Photoshop and went to give him a deposit on the 1dmkIII, which, btw he was the Canon Rep for 30 years out here and now has his own store.
I am what you would call a preferred customer of his, he then asked me, i thought you wanted the 1dsmkII replacement, i then said i do, he said well do you still want this, i asked why will it be released soon, he stated that they could release it now if the want to, but i have been told it will be released in the
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Old news, the 1Ds Mark III was always coming this year - just later.



Feb 26, 2007 at 09:12 PM
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Hrow wrote:
The price seems to be creeping up there. Calumet has it listed at $4499.99 which is a pretty hefty premium over its original but since removed price of $3999. In the Westfall interview he says that they are finalizing the price for April shipments but I am willing to bet that this doesn't bode well for us. $4K is my max and that's really pushing it. They go higher than that and they can build one less camera.


FYI, it's listed at AUD6499 on Canon's Aus website (same price as the 1D Mark II N).



Feb 26, 2007 at 09:16 PM
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it's listed at AUD6499 on Canon's Aus website (same price as the 1D Mark II N)

This is actually very good news. I still cannot understand how that could be but saved their prices for future reference.

It is surprising how cheap it is comparing with 30D



Feb 26, 2007 at 09:27 PM
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p.20 #16 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


It doesn't mean a thing! I have seen Canon Australia change their pricing on new models before. Yes, on their web pages! Even if it sticks, our pricing is still so much higher than the US, it doesn't mean a thing...


Feb 26, 2007 at 09:32 PM
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p.20 #17 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Rudi, you should not complain - it is only 2.8 x the price of 30D. Dirt cheap! If I could get it for C$3500 I would be very happy.


Feb 26, 2007 at 09:37 PM
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mfurman wrote:
I am in the same boat. I do not want to sound cheap but it is a psychological barrier for me. I got excited about 1D mkIII because it met my needs and price range. I am not certain what I would do if they go above but I am not going to pay any premium for sure. By the way, we all have this $3999 in our copies of the White Paper.


I'm going to get one but I'll wait until it is selling for 4K. There is no reason to pay more. If they come out with a $4500 starting price it will drop to 4K after the rush. 4K is a good price for this camera and i'll wait until it gets there.

Jim



Feb 26, 2007 at 10:00 PM
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p.20 #19 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


mfurman wrote:
Rudi, you should not complain - it is only 2.8 x the price of 30D. Dirt cheap! If I could get it for C$3500 I would be very happy.


Sure, but it's USD $5,151.10 - you don't even want to pay $4500 !!!



Feb 26, 2007 at 10:03 PM
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p.20 #20 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Me too, I want a 5D with these features (don't need 10 fps).


Brian Brutek wrote:
This camera sounds unbelievable. Not so much for the speed or MP (speed doesn't matter to me at all and MP is still way too low to excite me in my field), but all the features are UNBELIEVABLE. This is a quantum leap in features if you ask me. I want a 5D with these features!

Any word on whether or not this will have continuous shooting speed selection? It would be awesome (and almost necessary if you ask me) for it to have say, 3fps/5fps/8fps/10fps modes. 10fps is way overkill for a lot of situations and it would suck
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