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p.19 #1 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


>>> Would you buy a billion megapixel camera?

>> Hell yes! Especially if it's cheap, full-frame, pocketable and shoots at 30fps with sound recording.

> Noted how much you were able to grasp of my attempt to answer your question.

Remembering this will save me considerable time/effort in the future. ;-)


Don't worry L.H., I read it, I grasped it, I thought it made plenty of sense, and I thank you for it. It's just the thought of that billion megapixel camera sent me off into a science fiction fantasy.



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:31 PM
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p.19 #2 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


The issue of 1D Mk III image quality has surfaced in various threads especially among those who like myself could reasonably consider a 5D rather than the 1D Mk III. I am hoping that a few people who post on this forum will attend PMA with the 5D's and make some comparison shots. Anyone out there ready to volunteer :-).

If I had to guess, I would think the new sensor will put the 1D Mk III ahead with respect to shadow detail, DR, & detail resolution even though it has fewer pixels. I'd rather not guess.



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:40 PM
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p.19 #3 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I do not suspect the MKIII will be significantly better in terms of IQ than the 5D. The only exception will probably be the nature of noise pattern banding, but that's a pretty specialize area of IQ. If the featureset of the MKIII doesn't interest you, I can't imagine why you'd go for it over the 5D if it fits the bill for you already.


Feb 26, 2007 at 01:44 PM
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p.19 #4 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


DigitalDreamer wrote:
he stated that they could release it now if the want to, but i have been told it will be released in the fall of "07".


Thank you for sharing what you learned!



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:48 PM
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p.19 #5 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


The Image quality from the Mark III will be superb I am sure. If you look at the sample images in on the Imaging Resource site the one thing that stands out is the excellant colors the Mark III is producing. How it will play against the 5D is up for debate. But if you look at the sample images on this site

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DMK3/E1DMK3A7.HTM

you will see beautiful colors. Also check out the 3200 and 6400 ISO Images and look at the noise. really excellant noise reduction w/o losing a lot of detail.

Lenshead J. Allen



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:49 PM
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p.19 #6 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


This was posted on the web FYI

Canon unveils new professional digital camera

Canon Inc unveiled a new digital camera for professional photographers in a bid to hold on to its No 1 position in the camera industry and spur demand for its wide lineup of advanced lenses.

Tokyo-based Canon is said to control almost 50 percent of the global market for digital single-lens reflex (DSLR), high-end models with interchangeable lenses, which have higher profit margins and more stable prices than simpler compact models.

“In the past, we refrained from making many changes to our professional models because our customers are so used to using them,” Tomonori Iwashita, head of Canon’s camera unit, said at a news conference.

“But we made significant revisions to this model, and aim to lift the (quality of) professional cameras to a new level.”

Canon will begin sales of the EOS-1D Mark III from late-May for an expected retail price of about $4,132. The device, with 10.1 megapixel resolution, is equipped with two image processors to allow faster processing of high-quality images.

Canon, which competes with firms such as Sony Corp and Nikon Corp in the camera business, has said it aims for more than a 45 percent share in Japan’s DSLR market, and also secure 25 percent of the market for compact models.

The company also introduced four new compact models, under the IXY and PowerShot brands, which will become available in mid-March.

Nikon, the second-biggest DSLR maker, unveiled seven new compact cameras and also said it aims to increase its global market share in compacts to about 10 percent from the current 8.5 percent.

This year, Canon expects its total digital camera shipments to rise 14 percent to 24 million units, slower than the 25 percent jump in shipments it posted in 2006.

Shipments of its DSLRs are expected to increase 20 percent to 3 million units this year, Canon has said. reuters



Feb 26, 2007 at 02:13 PM
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p.19 #7 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


http://www.calumetphoto.com/promo/1629?type=usenews022607&a=EWAYUS


Feb 26, 2007 at 02:22 PM
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p.19 #8 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


brainiac wrote:
Don't worry L.H., I read it, I grasped it, I thought it made plenty of sense, and I thank you for it. It's just the thought of that billion megapixel camera sent me off into a science fiction fantasy.


Understood, B-ac.

20 years ago we would have thought that we are living a science-fiction fantasy with TODAY'S gear!

Best wishes ;-)



Feb 26, 2007 at 02:25 PM
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p.19 #9 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Of course there are other reasons to choose the 1D Mk III over the 5D but if the image quality is not significantly better, I will probably save my $ and buy the 5D. I wait for confirmation one way or the other :-).


Feb 26, 2007 at 02:25 PM
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p.19 #10 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I wouldn't expect the IQ of the new camera to be significantly better or worse than the 5D. Apparently they're making an effort to improve DR, a welcome addition. Even though there's not a huge difference in resolution, there is a difference. Thruthfully there's not a huge difference in resolution between the 20D and the 5D despite the extra MP. I own both.
Heck, ever since cameras made 8 MP or so,there's not a huge difference in IQ among any of them. I'm sure the MK-III will be an outstanding camera, but unless you need the high frame rate and the total weather sealing, or you can't live without the anti-dust thing,or you just have an extra $1000 burning a hole in your pocket, the 5D would probably be the better choice for most people.
Good luck.



Feb 26, 2007 at 03:15 PM
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p.19 #11 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Just found a cool 'special site' in japan. It's all in japanese but has lots of cool visual things that illustrate noise levels, etc. Use the links across the top of the page:

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3-j/swf/flash.html



Feb 26, 2007 at 03:18 PM
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p.19 #12 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


This is pretty tricky to announce the 1D III before the 1Ds III. Some of us won't be able to wait for the 1Ds III and will buy both just to get one right away.


Feb 26, 2007 at 03:30 PM
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p.19 #13 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I don't think we can draw any conclusions until raw comparisons are available. Having spent some time pixel peeping the Imaging-Resource comparisons between the 1D2N and 1D3, I would say the noise is about 1 stop better on the 1D3 (about equal perhaps to the 5D) but the samples were certainly softer than the 1D2N samples. After applying a little Neat Image, they are remarkably similiar.


Feb 26, 2007 at 03:33 PM
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csd2020 wrote:
I don't think we can draw any conclusions until raw comparisons are available. Having spent some time pixel peeping the Imaging-Resource comparisons between the 1D2N and 1D3, I would say the noise is about 1 stop better on the 1D3 (about equal perhaps to the 5D) but the samples were certainly softer than the 1D2N samples. After applying a little Neat Image, they are remarkably similiar.



Glad I'm not the only one to think this about the IQ of the 2N and the III. Looking at all the samples so far from the Canon website and this link, the reduction in noise levels as well as the colors is impressive, but the IQ definitely looks softer with the DIII. I will have to check out a raw file once one becomes available before I can make a definite comment. One thing I have read is that Digic III has a bit more aggressive algorithim for noise which could account for the decrease in sharpness.



Feb 26, 2007 at 03:42 PM
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p.19 #15 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Here's the way to figure it out...

When Canon released the 5D the samples were dreadful but the output was excellent.
With the MkIII the samples are pretty good therefore the output must be spectacular.

Simple logic saves the day once again.



Feb 26, 2007 at 04:16 PM
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p.19 #16 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


The price seems to be creeping up there. Calumet has it listed at $4499.99 which is a pretty hefty premium over its original but since removed price of $3999. In the Westfall interview he says that they are finalizing the price for April shipments but I am willing to bet that this doesn't bode well for us. $4K is my max and that's really pushing it. They go higher than that and they can build one less camera.


Feb 26, 2007 at 05:24 PM
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p.19 #17 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


D Dolde wrote:
This is pretty tricky to announce the 1D III before the 1Ds III. Some of us won't be able to wait for the 1Ds III and will buy both just to get one right away.


That may be exactly what Canon was going for!



Feb 26, 2007 at 05:35 PM
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p.19 #18 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


My cousin in Boston said that Hunts Photo had the 1dmkIII listed and accepting orders @ a price of $3999.99. He called Hunts Photo up when he could no longer find the add, they responded saying that Canon made them pull it down. They said that they have not set a price in stone yet.. I can see the $4,599.99 price tag rite now. All this after they clearly stated that they would price it at the same price as of the 1dmkIIn.

Below is a quote from their white paper...........


The EOS-1D Mark III is the ultimate instrument for high pressure, high-speed photography,
and it can do much, much more. It has the image quality, the ease of control, the speed
and the flexibility to adapt brilliantly to just about any condition. Features such as the new
integrated cleaning system make it easier to live with. With Live View, the possibilities
are limited only by the imagination. The Dual DIGIC III Image Processors give it dazzling
speed and the 14-bit output will help to make superb prints and magnificent magazine
spreads. The battery data is a source of reassurance. Additions such as safety shift, highlight
tone priority and
...Show more



Feb 26, 2007 at 05:47 PM
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p.19 #19 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Welcome to the world of supply and demand...


Feb 26, 2007 at 05:57 PM
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FretNoMore wrote:
Welcome to the world of supply and demand...


Yep, if when we saw the specs, we all had posted what a rush-to-market minor-improvement noise-riddled back-focusing piece of junk this was, we might still be seeing $3999...



Feb 26, 2007 at 06:11 PM
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