mfurman wrote:
I pre-paid but they could not give me the price. What I was told was: "Between C$4500 and C$5000". 1D mk III is the camera I always wanted and I hope that I would use it much longer than any of my previous DSLs (hopefully as long as my last film camera)
Edited by mfurman on Feb 24, 2007 at 10:09 AM GMT
The long life-cycles of film are long gone. Compelling products such as the 1D3 will continue for well into the future. My brother purchased the 1D2N last year and guess what--he's got the itch to upgrade.
B&H has the camera listed, under product code 1888B002 . They are not accepting pre-orders, and still shows TBA for the price, but they do have the "e-mail when in stock" option.
Just tried my 5D's 2.5 in. LCD for over the head and below the belly viewing, and in the evening light the screen was perfectly usable at 80 degrees viewing angles both from down and from up, so the 160 degrees (or so) total viewing angle is true. Not so bad for the 1D3's live preview with a fixed 3 in. LCD.
Obviously the viewing results would be much worse in daylight.
Pre-order price for 1D3 today in Finland is EUR 4.176 including 22% value added tax. Surprisingly a few % less than the UK £3049.
Steve Torelli wrote:
Any chance that these dedicated rumour threads contribute to the general slowdown at FM that so many people are complaining about ?
I doubt very much that text-only posts would slow the site down.
mfurman wrote:
Some people would like to have all the features of 1D mk III with FF sensor to boot for the price of Nikon 200 (to upgrade from 30D). I can constantly hear about this "trickling down effect" and "waiting for the prices to drop". It is becoming annoying.
I guess you'll have to reconcile yourself with being annoyed because I doubt it's going to stop.
I just made a quick comparison between the high iso image of the 1d3 and a high iso with my 5d. Seems the 1d3 is much less noisy with less pattern noise in the shadows. The noise "bar" has just been raised again. wow.
Just wish the IR cutoff filter was something you could just pop in and out.
mfurman wrote:
I pre-paid but they could not give me the price. What I was told was: "Between C$4500 and C$5000". 1D mk III is the camera I always wanted and I hope that I would use it much longer than any of my previous DSLRs (hopefully as long as my last film camera)
Edited by mfurman on Feb 24, 2007 at 10:29 AM GMT
mfurman, where did you order? I put my name down at The Camera Store in Calgary but they too have no pricing.
I printed the "white pages" the day the Mk III was announced when the MRSP was said to be $3999.00. Its been removed as most of you are probably already aware. I checked Calumet's site and its priced at $4,499.00 with a note saying the prices aren't set yet but you can place an order. I can see where this is heading as far as inflated prices and limited supplies. Does this @iss anbody off or is this the norm for the first couple months until supply catches up?? That extra $500 can buy alot of memory cards!
I grazed over most the comments and the price comments. Bare in mind that this camera is a specialized unit it. It is mainly focused on people who do sports and action photography. Yes this could be used for any other things but we are looking at a camera designed for a specific folk. I personally am waiting on the next 5D cam for my upgrade. Maybe it be a 4D or a 6D depending on what direction they decide to go in. Would i and any of us like one of these? oh yes but how many of us actually need 10fps the 10.1 megapixel sensor i personally find a lil disappointing. But this does tell me 1 thing, that soon there will be a 40D camera out and it will be 10.1 mega pixel, also disappointing. I'd figured they'd try to at least equal the 10.2 of Nikon or exceed it. Oh well, if this is an indicatin of the user devepment which may occur with the new 5D i'll be excited to get one, but i'd expect at least 14mp.
ga1lyons wrote:
I grazed over most the comments and the price comments. Bare in mind that this camera is a specialized unit it. It is mainly focused on people who do sports and action photography. Yes this could be used for any other things but we are looking at a camera designed for a specific folk.
I don't think that this is true. Although I do some sports and action for hoots and giggles when the mood strikes me, I am much more likely to be chasing a butterfly or shooting a scenic in the fog. I want/need a camera that gives me a very high quality AF system (what good are MPs if the image is of questionable focus) and weather proofed at least a little. I can see the Live Viewfinder being of marginal benefit for a sports shooter or PJ since it doesn't twist but of huge benefit to the macro and studio shooter, especially those who wear glasses and especially those who use reading glasses.
Nature is much subtler than NASCAR thus 14 bits in theory, has the potential to be much more beneficial to landscape shooters recording huge color ranges than sports shooters whose scences are filled with dominating colors. I could go on with other examples but in the end, I think that people are going to find this to be a very capable camera for many types of photography. It is almost too bad that it is 10 fps because that is what so many people are focused on and it is really one of the less important aspects of the camera.
Peterdenh wrote:
I just came from an event and the CPS stand had a couple of 1Dmk3 with them. We were not allowed to take images on own cards, but here's my experience.
The camera feels like always. Sturdy and familiar, only the lesser weight makes it feel like a 'feather'. Very nice feel to it.
It reacts quicker than the 1d2
The screen is just huge compared to my 1d2. It is very pleasing to look at.
The live view mode is eary if you'd ever need it. For my astro work it is very helpful to say the least.
The viewfinder is awesome. It feels like I look through an eos3, though it was inside, I feel it was brighter. I don't know how matte the screen is, but I loved it.
The coupling for the flash is much improved. The weather sealing works also to make it more sturdy imo. The flash itself is pure awesome. What I loved is the new connection. It is no longer a ring, but it is now a lever, like some quick release holders have. Easy to get the flash off, even with gloves. Also the battery compartment door is improved a lot. The looks, the sturdy feel, the weather sealing. Everybody will want one. I do for certain.
Odd is the buttons. It is an unfamiliar feel and when you will learn it you will love it, but it is unlike any other canon camera. Less double button options. The menu is different as well, compared to 1d2, and very easy to follow. AF on is nice. I am one of the people who use * to focus and half-sutter to lock the exposure. (I can not convince everybody, but this ROCKS.
I forgot to try the AF-point selection. Darn.
The highlight saving is adding a curve. I'm certain this has been discussed. I haven't had time to read this thread. The people didn't know from where this S curve would run. I opted, just in the highlights, or over the whole range? They could not tell me. My best guess would be just in the highlights above some arbitrary number, otherwise the whole image feel would chance. But I don't know yet. However, it is a very nice feature.
Be careful comparing the noise. The images are from pre-production samples. I told them I could not see that the noise on 3200 is the same as 1600 in the 1d2. They told me, that this could be true. It could be a bit better in the production models. I asked how, because I want to compare without NR and then it would be just the chip. And the chip would hardly change between pre and actual models. They claimed that the chip programming was still fine tuned after the pre-production models. I think this could have to do with exact gains. Also the NR s/w might have improved. If it is all rubbish, fact or noticeable I don't know. We shall see how the noise is in the actual models.
There's nothing I can say about optical quality of the new 16-35II. It feels like a great lens, like every L lens does when it is fresh. The 82mm filter size is a pain as I would need a new polarizer. Also the hood is an awkward thing to have in your bag again.
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Thank you! I'm sure your time with the camera was limited, and it's not easy to borrow a pre-production body and remember all the things that you'd like to check. Good report!
ga1lyons wrote:
Maybe it be a 4D or a 6D depending on what direction they decide to go in. Would i and any of us like one of these? oh yes but how many of us actually need 10fps the 10.1 megapixel sensor i personally find a lil disappointing.
So you actually need more than the current 5D delivers?
ga1lyons wrote:
But this does tell me 1 thing, that soon there will be a 40D camera out and it will be 10.1 mega pixel, also disappointing. I'd figured they'd try to at least equal the 10.2 of Nikon or exceed it. Oh well, if this is an indicatin of the user devepment which may occur with the new 5D i'll be excited to get one, but i'd expect at least 14mp.
I realize it seems to be a popular refrain around here right now, but for many a body is the totality of the feature set instead of the totality of the MP count alone. There is very little difference between 10 and 12 MP; on the other hand, the disparity in nearly every other aspect between the 5D and 1DIII is overwhelming for me as an owner of both the 5D and a current 1 series.
