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Archive 2007 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

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p.92 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Jim Victory wrote:
I'm sure the majority of you will be happy if Canon does produce a FF 1DMKIII but I would be disappointed. Sports shooters probably could do fine with this camera but not wildlife shooters. I use a 1DMKIIn and 1DsMKII for wildlife shooting. I use the 1Ds when I'm close enough that the FOV allows for a good focus lock on my subjects head, which can be very small for a bird. But if the subject in the FOV gets too small I'm better using the "N" to assure proper focus lock. This is very important with BIF.

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If it's real, proper focus points would be part of the design.

Feb 13, 2007 at 01:03 PM

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p.92 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

roli_bark wrote:
I'm the OP of that PIC.
I was told [by the source who gave it to me] it is NOT a fake.

But then again, who knows ?

Believe the Erwin.
Accept no false idol.

(And that's the ugliest fake that's been created. Isn't the "1DNRs" a Canon photo showing 1D's magnesium construction?)

Feb 13, 2007 at 01:06 PM

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p.92 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

10DFT wrote:
Looks suspiciously like a 1D Mk II....

Just passing along the pic so people could see that didn't have access to that site. Certainly don't endorse it or any pic that I didn't take.

Jim

Feb 13, 2007 at 01:10 PM

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p.92 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Tentacle wrote:
I agree. The big give-away is that the "NRs" label on both bodies are not following the angled surface. There is no perspective, yet the bodies are positioned at an angle.

And I agree with the observation, both here and at photography-on-the-net, that the new flagship 1D camera would be shown with the new 50/1.2L, not with the non-L 50/1.4.

Edited by Tentacle on Feb 13, 2007 at 07:02 PM GMT

It may be a fake.
It may be a pre-show genuine Mockup PIC.
It may be a legit true PIC of the product.

We'll ALL know in 3 weeks ...

Feb 13, 2007 at 01:14 PM

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p.92 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Guauu !! Boys, you did wake up in a breeze !!

Feb 13, 2007 at 01:39 PM

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p.92 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

what a bad fake ^^

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:04 PM

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p.92 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

The "1DNRs" rumor has been floating around for at least 4 years. It is a mythological 1D with a Pellicle Mirror. I wouldn't put any more stock in it than a 3D. These bodies come up before every trade show.

I'm still learning towards our boys Erwin and EOSfun.

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:05 PM

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p.92 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

The main draw back of the original 1RS was the light loss & the dark viwefinder. ISO light loss is no big deal anymore.

What would be great is to have a vacum sealed sensor box behind the pellicle mirror to prevent dust. Then we would just have to clean the mirror.

But, if it was a true RS camera, it would 10+fps.

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:18 PM

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p.92 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

If canon is introducing it's sixth version of the 1D by emphasizing alloy body construction, we had all better start looking at new camera brands.

What I felt seeing the fake ad was how disappointed i would be with another large camera body. That form is starting to look like the Kodak/Canon style from the late nineties.

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:30 PM

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p.92 #10 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Brent Ward wrote:
The main draw back of the original 1RS was the light loss & the dark viwefinder. ISO light loss is no big deal anymore.

I beg to differ.

George Deliz

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:39 PM

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gdeliz2 wrote:
I beg to differ.

George Deliz

You lost a 1/3 of a stop if I remember right. Not a big deal anymore.

Feb 13, 2007 at 02:47 PM

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p.92 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

netexpress wrote:
The "1DNRs" rumor has been floating around for at least 4 years. It is a mythological 1D with a Pellicle Mirror. I wouldn't put any more stock in it than a 3D. These bodies come up before every trade show.

I'm still learning towards our boys Erwin and EOSfun.

EOS fun also had this:
Forgot to mention these: 12-24EF, 17-135EF-S IS, 800/5.6 IS DO
Pixma ip6xxx: wireless pictbridge, Selphy ipES miniprinter wireless pictbridge, Powershot A740 IS wireless 10Mp DIGICIII, 6x zoom, WiFi. IXUSi10 zoom 10Mp lifestyle, IXUS 70 edition, DC50 DVD camcorder

I remember that he only had the 1DsIII at PMA, however. So it doesn't match with Erwin exactly. But they are both from the Netherlands. Perhaps some people left Canon Netherlands and talked. Or the dutch are tricksters.

Feb 13, 2007 at 03:00 PM

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p.92 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

If the Erwin does end up being true we have to make sure that the camera is cristened as such for the future..

Feb 13, 2007 at 03:13 PM

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p.92 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

A friend who speaks Russian provided the following translation:

The text on the picture says this:

"The birth of the legend
New Canon EOS 1DNRs.
12 mega pixels, 8 fps a second.
full frames".

Now, she doesn't know anything about DSLRs - - note the last phrase - -
"FULL FRAMES"

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

John

Feb 13, 2007 at 03:17 PM

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p.92 #15 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Why would the name have an 's'?

Feb 13, 2007 at 03:29 PM

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p.92 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

dcmiller wrote:
EOS fun also had this:
Forgot to mention these: 12-24EF, 17-135EF-S IS, 800/5.6 IS DO
Pixma ip6xxx: wireless pictbridge, Selphy ipES miniprinter wireless pictbridge, Powershot A740 IS wireless 10Mp DIGICIII, 6x zoom, WiFi. IXUSi10 zoom 10Mp lifestyle, IXUS 70 edition, DC50 DVD camcorder

I remember that he only had the 1DsIII at PMA, however. So it doesn't match with Erwin exactly. But they are both from the Netherlands. Perhaps some people left Canon Netherlands and talked. Or the dutch are tricksters.

Exactly and EOSfun had:

40D=10Mp, anti dust, new display, 5fps, 9+2 AF points pricing: 100-1600+H, EF-S,x 1.6, SD, new viewfinder, DIGICIII, option: Wifi grip

1DsmkIII= 22mp, 2,5"lcd, PS, 45AF, DIGICIII, 100-3200+H+L, 1.0, 4fps, high speed crop mode 8,5fps

Erwin Puts never did say both the 1 series models would be released at PMA. He just said they would be released with no date. So Erwin Puts' comments don't conflict at all with the comments made by EOSfun. Perhaps the 22MP "s" model at PMA and the 12MP model this fall.

Either way Canon is going to get too much of my money again!

Feb 13, 2007 at 03:58 PM

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p.92 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

dcmiller wrote:
Why would the name have an 's'?

The "s" is a clear attempt to reference to the Canon EOS 1n RS.

The first Canon EOS camera with pellicle mirror was the Canon EOS RT, RT being short for Real Time. With the Canon EOS 1n RS pellicle mirror camera, the RT became RS, Real-time Super-high-speed. Allthough there is apparently also an informal explanation of Rapid Shooting. Take your pick.

More info here:

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EOS-1nRS/index.htm

Feb 13, 2007 at 04:01 PM

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p.92 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

netexpress wrote:
I'm still learning towards our boys Erwin and EOSfun.
Me too....

EOSfun wrote:
40D=10Mp, anti dust, new display, 5fps, 9+2 AF points pricing: 100-1600+H, EF-S,x 1.6, SD, new viewfinder, DIGICIII, option: Wifi grip

1DsmkIII= 22mp, 2,5"lcd, PS, 45AF, DIGICIII, 100-3200+H+L, 1.0, 4fps, high speed crop mode 8,5fps
and�
Forgot to mention these: 12-24EF, 17-135EF-S IS, 800/5.6 IS DO
Pixma ip6xxx: wireless pictbridge, Selphy ipES miniprinter wireless pictbridge, Powershot A740 IS wireless 10Mp DIGICIII, 6x zoom, WiFi. IXUSi10 zoom 10Mp lifestyle, IXUS 70 edition, DC50 DVD camcorder.

Interesting re his suggestion of the high speed crop mode on the Big Erwin� (and no mention of the small Erwin)... But this IMO is typical of verbal leaks with partial information...

As an earlier poster here pointed out, we actually seem to have a reasonably consistent stream going back to January 2006

This Japanese site http://reflect.moe.to/member/canon_doller.htm (you need to use Google etc to translate) (oh and ignore the apparent �love� of Japanese lady dolls

) Which in turn was quoted on Northlight-Images on their older EOS 1d Mark III Material for January 2006

Northlight images http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1DS_Mk3.html said:
One translation (?)
� EOS-3000 (aka Kiss D Light) low price JEPG format only DSLR.
� EOS 50D APS-C 1,030m 5.5 FPS with EOS 5D high speed AF sensor
� EOS -1Ds III 20MP with a 12MP 8fps high speed crop (merger of 1D and 1Ds lines - the 1Dv or 1Vd)
� Updated 350D with unknown code name and 3fps.

Then who knows what in between until my posts in August last year and then several similar ones on this forum including that of Antony who stated he was speculating

Finally Erwin Puts (also Netherlands as is EOS fun) with his:
� A new 1D and a new 1Ds
� The 1D goes to full frame (suggests 5D sensor, but I'd expect something a bit newer)
� The 1D (or D1 as it gets called sometimes) comes in a EOS 1V style body (which is 10 fps with drive)
� The 1Ds (D1s) goes to 22MP
� ISO 6400 now available
� 1D will be $4500

Anyway the details are very similar but not quite a match.. For example my source made no mention of the removable grips mentioned by Erwin�

What do we have with a million rumours some random match

� Or various visions of the truth (with increasing clarity over time) based on tiny leaks (often verbal)� Which is what I believe�.

Oh and a local Canon source (I�m in Australia as is Antony) has said they �had no formal briefing yet but the buzz in the company is 2 bodies announced and available now and 1 a little later, plus several new lenses. Stock was out on the 1D and low on the 30D so that was a good place to look�

8-10 days will tell�

Edited by Geoff Costello on Feb 14, 2007 at 07:28 AM GMT

Edited by Geoff Costello on Feb 14, 2007 at 07:30 AM GMT

Feb 13, 2007 at 06:24 PM

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johnecon wrote:
I just checked the Canon web site (again) hoping for - - - anything - - - and
apart from an announcement about a laser printer, it's still silent. Then I once
again saw their flashy ELPH 10th anniversary graphic showing 1996-2006, and
thought "gee - - that's old now, they're sure making a big deal about it".

It makes me wonder how big of a deal they'll make of the 20th anniversary of
EOS - - which according to what I have read here is March 1. If the (IMHO)
relatively inconsequential ELPH gets a splash across 2 years, shouldn't EOS
get some MAJOR coverage?...Show more →

The Digital IXUS/ELPH series won't be interesting to many of us here even though Canon had planned a major celebration in conjunction with the line-up's 10th anniversary.

Canon definitely has something planned to celebrate the occassion. And it is doing a nice job at that - no suggestions of any sort is appearing anywhere among its numerous websites around the world nor an indication/leak of the new EOS camera so far.

The countdown to the 20th anniversary of the EOS System as well as the official announcement of the first new EOS camera for 2007 may be getting restless for many of us here but once both milestones are here, be ready for the avalanche of criticisms of what the new model lacks or should have been. As usual.

Feb 13, 2007 at 06:27 PM

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p.92 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Geoff Costello wrote:
This Japanese site http://reflect.moe.to/member/canon_doller.htm (you need to use Google etc to translate) (oh and ignore the apparent �love� of Japanese lady dolls

) Which in turn was quoted on Northlight-Images on their older EOS 1d Mark III Material for January 2006

Anyone notice that the EOS-1 used as illustration at the bottom of the site might be the new version?

Of course, its left side is cropped off, which is enough to conceal the actual designation - I am being told that the overall appearance remains the same as existing 1D-series.

Anyway, what's more interesting is that camera is mounted with an EF lens that is currently not available in the EF line-up: EF 55mm f/1.2 USM, based on its marking at the front. It does look like a PS job to me as the elements look more like the design of an f/2.8 zoom lens - prime lens will not have that center-wrap-around element in the design.

Feb 13, 2007 at 06:44 PM

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