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 p.88 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread | |
James99 wrote:
... Any mention I made of Nikon's previous inability to release a FF sensor was only part of my post and you've taken it out of context. Specifically, regarding their inability to release a high speed sports camera and/or any sensor that Sony doesn't make (and the Nikon 4MP LBCAST sensor is 4 year old fish) Nikon can't release a high speed 8MP sensor because Sony won't/can't produce a clean 8MP one. All we need for proof is Sony's previous 8MP offerings which were/are very noisy - yes I own one.
As for the history lesson, gee thanks, but as a long time Canon film/digital shooter, I really don't need another on how Canon dominates the pro market, when that began, why it began, how large the market is, etc. After shooting Canon film cameras for longer than I want to admit and shooting Canon digital for 7 years now, I'm fairly aware of the market and the product offerings (in the film days, I didn't care too much about the technology though - it just didn't matter). I also don't need a lesson on what Canon's and Nikon's primary businesses are - and cameras are not it for either one - or who actually manufactures what (Nikon is one of 3 glass makers and makes their own lenses - Canon is not/does not) and their relative size in market capitalization or capabilities.
Regardless of the the pro market's size, Nikon will at some point make an attempt to lure some of the pros back and you're kidding yourself if you don't think so. I've talked to people over the last 6 months (Nikon pros) that are more on the inside than outside, and the rumor was that Nikon was working on a FF sensor. Any rumor though, especially ones that you read here or hear when your shooting next to a photographer at an event, are "worth the paper they're printed on".
This has absolutely nothing to do with Canon shooters leaving for Nikon. Nikon imaging is already profitable without the high end pro market (not a profit maker but more of an advertising expense anyway). People will change systems regardless of quality and there's nothing wrong with that. I looked at leaving Canon for Nikon back in the 90's. I looked, I evaluated, I thought, I decided, I stayed put. For me, Nikon has never really had a strong enough pull and their prices have never been attractive. They've made some great film cameras and while I lusted after a F5 film camera for a while, I've never considered any Nikon digital for more than 1 minute....Show more →
James, you will be pleased to know I took your advice and went back and re-read your post. Have I missed something here, because above you've gone into some length to explain it, but you've been pretty economical in that post you refer to.
The truth is that Nikon hasn't released anything more than the DX format because they can't. Case closed.
You brought DX and FF into it. It was never part of the topic, I was talking about an 8MP, 8fps camera.
No one except for Nikon apologists have ever believed that Nikon is "studying" a FF sensor and that DX is all anyone needs.
Thats not very nice now. So would that be left-wing, tree hugging, caffe latte sipping apologists.
And what history lesson are you talking about? That I said "Canon dominates the pro end". What, you got antsy over that!
I sure hope Nikon has found someone to produce a sensor for them because they need it if they want to hold on to their diminished high end section of the market...
I have no doubt whatsoever that Nikon will make a big play on the pro end. But not on my schedule, or Joe Bloggs'. You might be correct in your post about Nikon and Sony etc, but anything I responded to was completely within context of your post about the high end pro market. It was my take on current workings, thats all.
I don't see why you've gotten so worked up about it. Take a chill pill James. Or I'll be forced to use Jedi mind tricks.
Edited by nikt on Feb 13, 2007 at 08:19 PM GMT
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