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p.51 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


DynoMoHum wrote:
Mirroring of data in the camera on two different cards, would be interesting... and possibly of some value... However I doubt that this is in the works on anything that will be announced at PMA 2007... but then I could be wrong.


Yes, you are wrong, as it was announced in 2005



Feb 02, 2007 at 01:12 PM
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p.51 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


kaitou wrote:
Unless canon shrinks their sensors, or increases the diameter of the lens mount, I can't see how an in-body IS can work. There isn't enough clearance within the lens view-field to move the sensor around, which is what is required for an in-camera IS system.

Maybe if they build an FF sensor body that takes MF lenses they can pull it off, but the weight of the sensor would suck up the power something awful.

That might arguably be the case for FF sensors, but is certainly not the case for the 1.6 - and that is where Sony and Pentax are going to hurt Canon with in body IS, at entry level.
Quite a few guys shoot the 5D, with the Pentax as travel rig, even though they have to buya different set of lenses.
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Feb 02, 2007 at 01:19 PM
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p.51 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


You may be right about the 1.6 size sensor. I'd still have trouble seeing Canon put a feature on the low end dSLR's that won't be present in the higher end models. I think in-lens IS is also more effective then in body IS. Not 100% sure there, but I do recall reading something to that effect.


Feb 02, 2007 at 01:35 PM
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p.51 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Greg Pavlov wrote:
Having mucked about storage media for 30+ years (14" disk drives in the
old days :-), I've been wondering whether I'm better off with a high-capacity
card or several small ones: I'd be paranoid about the large one failing and
taking everything I did with it, as opposed to spreading the risk a bit and
saving at least some of what I'd done if one of 2-3 smaller cards fail. Or
is that only a remote possibility ?


14", oh you mean the hard platter packs? Yeah, I never worked with those, but I remember 8" floppies, and cassette tapes, when the rule was to save your work on at least two seperate cassettes, because your chance of a read failure was about 1 in 4, and the chances of two cassettes failing at the same time, was a lot less likely.

I wonder about a solid state card failing though, the most likely reason for a card to fail, is that it was damaged, and the most likely time for it to be damaged is while being removed/inserted into the camera. So dumping the images on a regular basis, and reformatting the card once you have confirmed they are on the computer, should reduce the likely hood of failure to a fairly low number. At least until the FLASH memory starts to wear out (typically 300,000 cycles, by which time, you have probably worn out most DSLRs anyway). One thing I would do though, is keep a spare card, and if a card gives an error, swap cards immediately, your chances of later recovery are much better if you don't monkey with it in the field.

Having looked at various cards, and being involved with computers almost as long as you have, they all need to be carefully handled, especially when being inserted and removed, but if you drop a CF card your also more likely to find it again, even in the bush on a moonless night, when your flashlight is dying.

Okay, so maybe a wedding photographer, would take more then 1000 shots, but then most cameras have a Large-Fine mode as well, which at least doubles capacity, and is good enough for the picture of Uncle Ted, with the lampshade on his head



Feb 02, 2007 at 01:50 PM
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p.51 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


danmitchell wrote:
While using one big card might cause you to lose more images in one shot, wouldn't the likelihood of a card failure increase overall if you were using 4 small cards rather than one large one? And not only for the purely statistical reasons - if you are swapping cards rather than leaving one card in the camera, the cards will likely be subjected to more handling, abuse, and environmental effects.
Dan


Yeah, you're right (and others who made this point). One "feature" that might
be nice to see, I think, tho I'm not sure how much I personally would want to
pay for it since I'm most definitely *not* a wedding photog, is a built-in wireless
unit that would let you make a backup on the fly.




Feb 02, 2007 at 02:01 PM
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p.51 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


WAY off-topic:

Paul Schmidt wrote:
14", oh you mean the hard platter packs?

Yep, that's them. I had a low-cost operation going back "in the early days" but needed what was then considered to be a good amount of storage. So we bought 2 400 MB 14" drives (at a highly discounted price of $19.5K each) but had them delivered on the first floor, at the bottom of a steep stairs that led up to our offices. Then me, being kinda young and stupid, and an employee, who didn't have much choice, started shoving the 250+ pound units up the stairs. About half way up with the second one we lost control and it slid/bounced its way down to the bottom. The cabinet ended with two large dents, but the disk worked fine (and no, we didn't know how to take out the head/platter assembly, so they went along for the ride).



Feb 02, 2007 at 02:12 PM
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p.51 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


kaitou wrote:
You may be right about the 1.6 size sensor. I'd still have trouble seeing Canon put a feature on the low end dSLR's that won't be present in the higher end models. ......

I don't see why not: there's precedence for that in other consumer goods and, in fact, a feature that may make sense to someone buying a lower-end item may be viewed as either being superfluous and in the way, or actually degrading whatever the item does, to someone who wants one at what may be considered "high end."



Feb 02, 2007 at 02:21 PM
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p.51 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


dcmiller wrote:
I have two digital wallets. Cf goes in one, then the other. That's my raid 0.


Well actually that's RAID 1, not 0. 0 = striping, spreading the data across multiple devices. One of them fails, you lose everything. Not what you want as your primary storage



Feb 02, 2007 at 02:27 PM
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p.51 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


i was hoping that canon would announce something prior to the super bowl. I guess we aren't going to hear anything until March after all.


Feb 02, 2007 at 04:20 PM
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p.51 #10 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


It would be nice to have the specs for the new releases before the current rebate deadline. There are probably some who would order now if they had the info.
Steve



Feb 02, 2007 at 05:03 PM
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p.51 #11 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Followed closely by a command dial that has four pressure sensitive edges similar to an Ipod click wheel.

I doubt that will ever happen. The 1 series needs tactile feedback, especially as some people need to be able to use the camera with gloves.



Feb 02, 2007 at 07:20 PM
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p.51 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


khurram1 wrote:
i was hoping that canon would announce something prior to the super bowl. I guess we aren't going to hear anything until March after all.



Who knows.. It's quite possible, if Canon is thinking of announcing a new camera soon, they might even consider 'using' it at the Super Bowl. Sort of BETA testing.

Keep your eyes open.

You know what I mean, Jelly Bean?

While were at it, rumor has it...... QB Tom Brady of the New England Patriots, is going to be traded to the Detroit Lions, for their 1st round draft pick.








Feb 02, 2007 at 07:51 PM
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p.51 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Hrm. I though the football bowls were all done. It is February already. Still I don't understand why that game would be an introduction time, especially for the 1Ds III body. I've only seen the bottom-end Canon or Nikon bodies on the TV ads.

EB



Feb 02, 2007 at 09:54 PM
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p.51 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Me, I think some people just can't wait to find out what Canon's got under the tree.


Feb 02, 2007 at 09:58 PM
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p.51 #15 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Being that Archie Manning is doing promos for canon, and his son is one of the quarterbacks, it would be a perfect setting for some sort of big advertisement. However, I don't think we'll hear anything for a few weeks at least. It would be nice though.


Feb 02, 2007 at 10:09 PM
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p.51 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Might make a funny commercial, if they would spoof all the speculation going on about what might be announced...


Feb 02, 2007 at 10:27 PM
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p.51 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Who would get it but us? How many people talk about 1D's, full frame vs whatever...


Feb 02, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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p.51 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


don't think they would have an ad on tv to introduce the 1ds...it would be the new 40D!


Feb 02, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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p.51 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Steve Brown wrote:
It would be nice to have the specs for the new releases before the current rebate deadline. There are probably some who would order now if they had the info.
Steve


Yeah, of course that would be nice, but that would make them a business that thinks only of its consumers. As much as we'd all like to think of Canon as having only the best for us in mind, it's just unlikely.

So, if they don't announce anything until after the deadline, there will be those people who are wanting to see what's coming next. So, instead of buying and taking advantage of [double] rebates, they wait to see what's new. And, in turn, by either the new item, or pay more than before for the old item.



Feb 03, 2007 at 12:49 AM
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p.51 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Canon uses major sporting events like the Olympics and the Super Bowl to do a roll out of products to professionals covering the game. I remember at the 2002 Winter Games in Utah, they showed off their new D60 camera at a party for photographers. At this Sunday's Super Bowl, they might have some of a few select photographers shoot with their new pre-production camera, if they are going to release one later to generate a little buzz. You never know...


Feb 03, 2007 at 12:55 AM
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