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Archive 2006 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L

  
 
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p.6 #1 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


As the reviewer says himself the shots aren't great because the lighting made it difficult to take a reasonable photo. But pic. 4 is shot at f/1.2 and is outstandingly sharp on the man's right eye compared with anything my copy of the 50mm f/1.4 can produce anywhere near wide open. To be honest I gave up shooting anywhere more open than f/2.8 on it so I don't have anything to compare it to but if memeory serves me correctly...


Nov 20, 2006 at 12:17 AM
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p.6 #2 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I do not believe that I saw anything sharp in those pictures. My copy of 50 f/1.4 gave me reasonably sharp pictures in f/1.4- f/1.8 range, was very good at f/2.2 and very sharp at f/2.8. I usually check sharpness in Capture One's "Focus" tab.


Nov 20, 2006 at 03:54 AM
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p.6 #3 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


The EF 50 F1.2L seems like a very interesting lens, though with a ridiculously high price (just my opinion). It seems like the best way to go ahead is to wait a month or two before ordering so that all small first production faults has been filtered way (ie. if there are any), or better still to wait for the new 1D (and maybe the new 1Ds -dslr as well) to come out at the next PMA or beginning of next year. Whichever the new professional dslr to come out may be it´s very probable it will also be offered as a package with the EF 50 1.2L where the price of the EF 50 1.2L will be several hundreds smaller for those buying the set.

Maybe this is the real reason why the release of the EF 50 F1.2L is beeing moved to next year in Japan ...

It would be so nice to have the "soon to be released 13,5 Mp 1DMk3" + EF 50 F1.2L for 3.999 $ ......
Well of course all this is just an uninformed guess, maybe even wishful thinking ...



Nov 20, 2006 at 05:01 AM
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p.6 #4 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Pinetree wrote:
It would be so nice to have the "soon to be released 13,5 Mp 1DMk3" + EF 50 F1.2L for 3.999 $ ......
Well of course all this is just an uninformed guess, maybe even wishful thinking ...


I am afraid $3999 is "maybe even wishful thinking", but $4999 sounds quite possible, and it is still reasonable compared to Nikon D2xx.



Nov 20, 2006 at 10:22 AM
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p.6 #5 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


alfarmer wrote:
It's not "nickel-and diming", it is too expensive -- by Canon's own definition. For 1/5th the price you can get an f/1.4 that's most likely just as good or better. Other than people who lust after lenses and rich people, who needs the extra 0.2? Exactly.

The only lens more ridiculously priced is the 85mm f/1.2, but it's more-significantly fast than its "low" end counterpart. It's AF is significantly slower, however, so it's not just a question of money.

I've never seen pictures that demonstrate any significant, real difference between these two Canon 85mm lenses. As long as this thread's about conjecture,
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You aren't a pro are you Alf.



Nov 22, 2006 at 06:29 AM
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p.6 #6 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


totally true cwphoto...

i hate the dof on the previous 50mm's the 1.4 and 1.8 looks the same dof wise.. don't you think? but the 1.2L is certainly much better.. if i had the money i would get one



Nov 22, 2006 at 08:08 AM
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p.6 #7 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I think it's time to dump this thread, it's absolutely useless as to its original intent -- "Hands-On EF 50/1.2." 14 pages of mostly drivel about a lens which very few people know ANYTHING about, DON'T OWN, NEVER USED and still make comparisons with the 50mm f/1.4 insisting it's not worth the money, not very good, etc., etc. ad infinitum, just by looking at a VERY FEW hurried shots. Absolutely ridiculous in my estimation.Sorry.

Edited by looscanon on Nov 22, 2006 at 09:47 AM GMT



Nov 22, 2006 at 09:41 AM
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p.6 #8 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


agreed


Nov 22, 2006 at 09:46 AM
Yakim Peled
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p.6 #9 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


ad nauseum


Nov 22, 2006 at 09:46 AM
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p.6 #10 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


when is this thing going to ship ? I thought mid November...


Nov 22, 2006 at 11:08 AM
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p.6 #11 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


rbraun wrote:
agreed


Agree too !!

And blame Canon for announcing this then taking forever to deliver...It will probably have flare or QC issues anyway.



Nov 22, 2006 at 11:15 AM
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p.6 #12 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


rockitman wrote:
when is this thing going to ship ? I thought mid November...


Chuck Westfall (Director of Media and Customer Relationship at Canon USA) says December.



Nov 22, 2006 at 12:09 PM
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p.6 #13 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I think it is simply plugging a hole in the Canon "L" line up. For years, lots of folks have been asking "Why is there no 50 L?" So, here it is. It costs what it costs to make the best lens in this FL they practically can. It will be a bit better than the 50 1.4, just like the 85 1.2 is a bit better than the 1.8 (other than weight and focussing speed :-) A lot of people will buy a 50f1.2 immediately, and in a few months, the street price will drop maybe 10%, and it will continue on thus, as a premium lens, an "L" for Luxury, that will have a following of loyalists, a group of detractors, and some who buy it without too much thought simply because that can afford to. If I had the dough, I'd pop for it, but I don't think it's in any way a priority for me. I will say my 50 1.4 at 1.4 can't make too large a print, but it's good at 1.8 and very good at 2. If the new 50 is decent at 1.2, that will be something. If it's only so-so at 1.2, but gets good at 1.4, it will still have it over the current lens, but not enough to entice me. Beyond that, yhe truth is, just about all of Canon's L's, even the zooms, are prety darn sharp by 4.0, so in that range, I'd rather use a zoom. At 5.6, obviously, it's tough to say one Canon lens is superior to another. If the new 50 offers something useful between 1.4 and 2.4, which is very likely, then it will have a following, but i won't jump in unless I get a lot of winfall cash dropped on me from a clear blue sky.


Nov 22, 2006 at 02:44 PM
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p.6 #14 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I have the Canon 50mm f1.4 and a Zeiss 50mm f1.7. The Zeiss is only microscopically better in color and sharpness from f2.8 or more stopped down. But it is much better at f1.7 and f2, in contrast and sharpness over the Canon 50 f1.4. When I need the autofocus, I use the Canon. When I need the wide open performace I use my $175 Zeiss and adapter. Why pay an extra $1200 for wide open performance, when I can get it with the Zeiss?


Nov 22, 2006 at 06:20 PM
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p.6 #15 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


For high school basketball and other indoor sports I really really want and need a 50mm lens that AF's faster and more accurately and generally performs better at f/2 than either the 50 f/1.4 or the 50 f/1.8 does. At this point I don't know whether to continue hoping that the 50 f/1.2 turns out to be that lens, or to hope that it doesn't so I don't have to cough up the shekels to buy one. :-(

Nill
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Nov 22, 2006 at 06:44 PM
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p.6 #16 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Don Clary wrote:
I have the Canon 50mm f1.4 and a Zeiss 50mm f1.7. The Zeiss is only microscopically better in color and sharpness from f2.8 or more stopped down. But it is much better at f1.7 and f2, in contrast and sharpness over the Canon 50 f1.4. When I need the autofocus, I use the Canon. When I need the wide open performace I use my $175 Zeiss and adapter. Why pay an extra $1200 for wide open performance, when I can get it with the Zeiss?


Apples to oranges. Opening up the Zeiss to the 50L's aperture will result in a very broken lens

It's expensive because it's super-fast AND autofocus AND wide open performance* AND part status symbol.

*we'll see how the verdict plays out on this one. If it's good, then it has something to help justify the price. If it isn't so hot, then the cost/benefit analysts among us will have another thing to flame about.



Nov 22, 2006 at 09:33 PM
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p.6 #17 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Nill Toulme wrote:
For high school basketball and other indoor sports I really really want and need a 50mm lens that AF's faster and more accurately and generally performs better at f/2 than either the 50 f/1.4 or the 50 f/1.8 does. At this point I don't know whether to continue hoping that the 50 f/1.2 turns out to be that lens, or to hope that it doesn't so I don't have to cough up the shekels to buy one. :-(


Nill, why did you use the word "shekels"? It's the Israeli currency and you live in USA.



Nov 23, 2006 at 02:37 AM
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p.6 #18 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Yakim, I think it's just a turn of phrase - just another term for money (that, and "dough" had already been used in this thread).

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekel) has it as "In some regions of the United States, the term is used informally for "money," particularly in situations where value is an important consideration."

Oh, and to be a bit on topic, I hope another thread gets created so we can read about hands on experiences with the 50mm 1.2.



Nov 23, 2006 at 07:31 AM
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p.6 #19 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Thanks a lot. I didn't know that.


Nov 23, 2006 at 07:37 AM
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p.6 #20 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


vontom wrote:
...
Oh, and to be a bit on topic, I hope another thread gets created so we can read about hands on experiences with the 50mm 1.2.


My nomination for the dry-irony-almost-slipped-under-the-radar award for November :-)




Nov 23, 2006 at 08:12 AM
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