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p.48 #1 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I believe even the 85L will vig some on the 5D at large apertures, stopped down to around f2 it usually goes away.


Dec 24, 2006 at 01:55 PM
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p.48 #2 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Nice shots although it looks as if the plane of focus might be on the sweater (behind her chin) and not on the eyes.


Dec 24, 2006 at 08:23 PM
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p.48 #3 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


- I was about to buy a 50 mm 1,2L since I have a 50 mm 1,0L that vignettes quite heavily on full aparture on my 1Ds II. As much as 3 stops from corner to the sentre. But looking closely (again) on my 50 mm 1,0L and the new 1,2 version I see that they vignettes about the same at aparture 1,2. So, instead of buying a new lense I can just as well stop down the old one.

What is the 50 mm 1,2L? It is a wastly cheaper version of the 50 mm 1,0L. Half the price for half a aparture stop - which reflects what it cost to make extreme lenses.

The 50 mm 1,2L cost today (sales tax included) 12.000 NOK here in Norway. To comparison, the 1,0L version cost 24.000 NOK when it was last in sale, some 5 - 6 years back. To comparison, the Leica Noctilux 50 mm 1,0 - now the only lense with this magical and extreme aparture opening in sale, cost 38.000 NOK - but is far smaller and 'cheaper' construction than the Canon version. I know. I have them both.

The 50 mm 1,2L? I am totally uninterested. When will Canon be back on the scene with a 50 mm 1.0L?



Dec 25, 2006 at 05:20 AM
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p.48 #4 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Seems that this lens is passable, even quite nice in certain circumstances. But for $1600, it better be special. Most of the positive lens posters here report "nice lens"....No one seems blown away. For $1600, I'd wish to be wowed. My 85 L does that, and so do the 35 and 135 L's....This one seems to behave more in aggregate like the 24 L....i.e. good, but not great, lens....


Dec 25, 2006 at 01:58 PM
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p.48 #5 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I suspect the price will drop quite a bit within a year when Canon realizes the lens is not what it was expected to be. I will still get mine since I only have a 1.8 version, but I prey they fix the issues with it soon. What are the chances of getting a good 50L- like 1 in 10? Its seems almost everyones lens backfocusses.


Dec 25, 2006 at 03:22 PM
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p.48 #6 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Can someone post a picture of the lens on the camera. I just want to see how cool it looks. The 85L looks awesome on a 30d so i suppose the 50L will too

thanks



Dec 25, 2006 at 04:21 PM
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p.48 #7 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Seems that this lens is passable, even quite nice in certain circumstances. But for $1600, it better be special. Most of the positive lens posters here report "nice lens"....No one seems blown away. For $1600, I'd wish to be wowed. My 85 L does that, and so do the 35 and 135 L's....This one seems to behave more in aggregate like the 24 L....i.e. good, but not great, lens...


these words spoken by the earlier gentleman pretty much mirror my thoughts...i haven't yet seen anything that convinces me that this is a "special" lens like the 85L or the 35L or the 135L...I want so badly to be convinced because ive always wanted a top shelf 50L but all i see is reasonable performance thus far and a lot of people rationalizing or justifying the performance of the lens...I keep waiting to perhaps see a group of special pictures or images that jump out at you..there have been a few nice shots presented but overall no consensus of a must have product...when i take my 85L out and come back to the pictures on my monitor even the less than stellar images have that something special about them..so far this lens doesn't seem to be dramatically better than the 50 1.4 the way the 85L is clearly better than the excellent 85 1.8..and yet i still check bh and the other merchants to see who has the lens in stock lol....i do hope a new shipment is better or a tweak makes this the lens I have been hoping for!



Dec 25, 2006 at 05:35 PM
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p.48 #8 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Jonbrach and others,

Apparently the lens seems somewhat special for some of us. No it is not a magical lens, and neither is a 85L or 35L. But the 50L has qualities at this focal length that I appreciate and apparently others do also, just like an 85L / 35L.

One thing is for sure, I think each of these lenses shows differently on different bodies. I had an old 50L that I used on a 1D2 that had more special qualities for me, however, it did not perform as well on a FF 1ds2. This new lens in my eyes performs much better on a 1ds2 than my old 50L.

It is one thing to look at opinions of others and view tests / photos from a lens on the internet, but until a person tries it with their body and in their circumstances, they may not be getting the full picture. Whether this lens is for you or not is certainly a personal decision. Enjoy the holidays.



Dec 25, 2006 at 06:05 PM
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p.48 #9 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


one from today

http://www.pbase.com/wade_abbey/image/72128973/large.jpg



Dec 25, 2006 at 07:10 PM
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p.48 #10 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


jonbrach wrote:
these words spoken by the earlier gentleman pretty much mirror my thoughts...i haven't yet seen anything that convinces me that this is a "special" lens like the 85L or the 35L or the 135L...I want so badly to be convinced because ive always wanted a top shelf 50L but all i see is reasonable performance thus far and a lot of people rationalizing or justifying the performance of the lens...I keep waiting to perhaps see a group of special pictures or images that jump out at you..there have been a few nice shots presented but overall no consensus of a
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I understand that this is a common feeling about the lens. I have used mine alot the past two days (photgraphing all the family Christmas shots) employing this lens exclusively. Initially I thought the 85L was some better but over the last few hundred shots I have changed my mind. I feel that on my 5D, my copy of the 50L is every bit as good as my copy of the 85L (mkI).



Dec 25, 2006 at 09:15 PM
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p.48 #11 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


As an early adopter of this lens, I want to love this lens in every way possible. After all, when spending $1500 of my hard earned money, I expect a significant return on "investment" and expect exceptional results "out of the box" (as I am sure many others do too). There is nothing that can make you feel worse than having to take you two day old Mercedes in because the steering is out of alignment, so with premium products (and prices), we've all rightfully come to expect premium quality with no exceptions to the rule.

However, as I have used this lens over the last several days, I have learned just how hard it is a lens to control (seems harder than even my 85L to me). Depth of field at 1.2 is so thin on subjects that it can make one's success rate question their photographic skill, and in turn also question their purchase I am sure. Without a doubt, some of this too, has resulted in the typical "questionable QC" and "is it $1300 better" questions that seem to have overrun this thread and others elsewhere.

Truth be told, even I (who has no problem dropping any coin on anything "I want") had some similar feelings over the last few days. As a result, I forced myself to use my 50/1.4 exclusively one night this week and for Christmas Eve, and I then shot exclusively with my 50/1.2 today, Christmas Day. While my results and report are not nearly as extensive as W. Castleman's, I hope my perspective can offer some insight to those that are on the fence about this lens as this is simply a real world test, where I can't control every aspect of every shot.

As I said in a prior post, build quality is excellent, and what we should rightfully expect. Optically, it too is excellent, however can be very difficult to control. Although there are posts that can attest to this lenses sharpness with static subjects, when dealing with people (and especially infants that won't stand still), the focal plane is so shallow that the slightest movement will give you OOF images that will simply get deleted and leave you banging your head against the wall. To use this lens for it's real intent and purpose, you will likely need a lot of patience or some very still subjects (even with AI servo, it was a challenge).

I still stand by my opinion that the 1.2 is a better lens. I don't think it's $1300 better, heck I don't even think it's $900 better, but it IS better. But if I want better than my 1.4 I dont have another other choice, do I? But in a strange and peculiar way, I don't mind the pricetag as I know I've spent more on worse things in life (like I tell my wife, I don't drink, I don't smoke, this is my vice. heck, I even frequently pack lunch).

Anyway, here are a few shots over the last several days of my 11 month old daughter whom staying still is not an option. Whether you like the images or not, or think they are good or think they are @#$, I am hoping these offer others some insight and an objective comparison to how each can perform in a real world scenario.

(Please bear in mind all posted images might even be a tad softer than what they really are as my image processing script I have on my site softens images ever so slightly).

In order they are:
50/1.2 at 1.2
50/1.2 at 1.6
50/1.4 at 1.4
50/1.4 at 2.2

http://www.pretedesign.com/data/images/gallery_images/user_id_10/HG9Q3569.xxl.jpg
http://www.pretedesign.com/data/images/gallery_images/user_id_10/HG9Q3556.xxl.jpg
http://www.pretedesign.com/data/images/gallery_images/user_id_10/HG9Q3120.xxl.jpg
http://www.pretedesign.com/data/images/gallery_images/user_id_10/HG9Q3133.xxl.jpg



Dec 25, 2006 at 10:55 PM
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p.48 #12 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Thanks Ed. If nothing else, it looks like it has better color and contrast.

Edited by cactusclay on Dec 26, 2006 at 08:38 AM GMT



Dec 26, 2006 at 12:04 AM
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p.48 #13 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Thank you Ed. Only you can say which one gives more natural (I do not mean "pleasing") colors. Very nice summary. Thank you again.

Ps. I would say that 50 f/1.4 shot (at f/2.2) seems to be the sharpest.



Dec 26, 2006 at 09:49 AM
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p.48 #14 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


I love mine.



Dec 26, 2006 at 10:04 AM
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p.48 #15 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Michael et al, my pleasure. Overall, I am pretty happy with the lens. I sense others will be (and are) too. I would agree that the 1.4 at 2.2 is the sharpest sample I posted, however the 1.2 shots I've posted are pretty darn sharp (it's just so hard to see as the image was partially cropped and DOF is so thin). Not to nauseate anyone with another photo of my daughter, here is the 1.2 at 1.6, which is real nice (she's the only person I've photographed with it so far).

It seems this lens is certainly a lens where all the stars need to fall into alignment to produce optimal results. Then again the same can hold true for the 85/1.2 as well.

http://www.pretedesign.com/data/images/gallery_images/user_id_10/HG9Q2802.xxl.jpg



Dec 26, 2006 at 11:02 AM
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p.48 #16 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


More babies @f1.2 - f1.4:

http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_0958-s.jpg
http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_0987-s.jpg
http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_0991-s.jpg
http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_0993-s.jpg
http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_1132-s.jpg
http://71.111.160.110/Lens/IMG_1140-s.jpg




Dec 27, 2006 at 03:42 PM
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p.48 #17 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Yeah, but this kid would look great even if you took these with a plastic throw-away...


Dec 27, 2006 at 06:40 PM
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p.48 #18 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


How is it that B&H has had 2, 3 or more times when they got these lenses in, and no one in Canada has this lens yet?


Dec 27, 2006 at 08:58 PM
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p.48 #19 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


B&H rep had new 15 copies of the 50 1.2L at the warehouse when I ordered one this morning. pcmur


Dec 27, 2006 at 09:09 PM
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p.48 #20 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


B&H rep had 15 new copies of the 50 1.2L at the warehouse when I ordered one this morning.


Dec 27, 2006 at 09:10 PM
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