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Archive 2006 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L

  
 
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p.46 #1 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Anyone that may have a soft copy at F2 or stopped down further, could perhaps have a lens problem. I did some testing on my copy last night and found it to be nice and sharp at 1.2 and only got better as I stopped down. And honestly it was only moderatly improved at F4 compared to F1.6, which was very impressive and shows this lens will prove its worth for those that need it.


Dec 22, 2006 at 12:49 PM
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p.46 #2 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Just picked up mine at UPS depot (from Pro Photo Supply...great price and service)

Weather is crap here right now, I'll shoot when it clears up. However, at the rate the rain is increasing, I may have a couple of cats and dogs to use as models



Dec 22, 2006 at 12:56 PM
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p.46 #3 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


mfurman wrote:
Could you please elaborate why you are keeping 50 f/1.4? I understand that you are saying that 50 f/1.2L is consistently better.

Thank you.

Frankly, if I were in dire need of the cash, I would sell the 1.4...but then, I wouldn't have bought the 1.2. It's always nice to have a backup lens. It can be kept on a less-used body, ready to be grabbed for earth-changing photos of one's pet. The serious answer is that I might actually favor the 1.4 if I were headed out on a hike to shoot landscapes. A zoom would be my primary lens, and the 50/1.4 is light and offers great results from f/4 to f/11, so it would be a nice back up to have in the bag at minimum weight. The 1.2 is consistently better at wide apertures, not in the optimal mid-range.



Dec 22, 2006 at 12:59 PM
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p.46 #4 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


dcmiller wrote:
Jess, I wasn't aware there was ever a curvature in the plane of focus??

Actually, it's common. Macro lenses are highly corrected for curvature of field; same for "flat field" lenses designed for copying, enlarging lenses, etc. Large aperture lenses tend to allow more curvature of field in order to correct for other aberrations and achieve high acutance in the central area in spite of that large aperture.
Don't confuse this with linear distortion (barrel, pincushion).

Gotta head for work...



Dec 22, 2006 at 01:03 PM
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p.46 #5 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Photon wrote:
Actually, it's common. Macro lenses are highly corrected for curvature of field; same for "flat field" lenses designed for copying, enlarging lenses, etc. Large aperture lenses tend to allow more curvature of field in order to correct for other aberrations and achieve high acutance in the central area in spite of that large aperture.
Don't confuse this with linear distortion (barrel, pincushion).

Gotta head for work...


Correct... and this fact is responsible for many of the "my lens is soft in the corners wide open" complaints you commonly see on the Web. Most sharpness tests of newspapers, brick walls and the like are also made at near focus distances, which can exacerbate lens curvature of field...



Dec 22, 2006 at 01:30 PM
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p.46 #6 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


garyvot wrote:
Correct... and this fact is responsible for many of the "my lens is soft in the corners wide open" complaints you commonly see on the Web. Most sharpness tests of newspapers, brick walls and the like are also made at near focus distances, which can exacerbate lens curvature of field...

Anyone testing corner sharpness should explain his method clearly. It seems to me that at f/1.2 it is critical to align the focal plane with the test wall (in case of the newspaper test). This, in addition to the curvature of field, is perhaps why tests of corner sharpness are so hard to get right. I am thinking of using a table against a wall, and carefully aligning the camera to the edge of the table, in order to have the focal plane parallel to the wall.



Dec 22, 2006 at 01:59 PM
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p.46 #7 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Real-life pictures taken wide open with 100% crop:

http://www.lens-scape.com/article/50mm-12vs14/50mm12vs14.htm


The lens is sharp wide open. But getting the focus right is a challenge.

Edited by weekh on Dec 23, 2006 at 12:44 AM GMT



Dec 22, 2006 at 07:33 PM
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p.46 #8 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


nice lowlight shots weekh, what were your shutter speeds on some of those?


Dec 22, 2006 at 07:41 PM
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p.46 #9 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Most are done at ISO 100 at about 1/60s.


Dec 22, 2006 at 07:44 PM
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p.46 #10 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Here's a pic of my daughter from tonight:

Canon EOS 5D, 50L, 1/60Sec., F4.0, Evaluative metering, ISO 800

http://s179774470.onlinehome.us/henriks/pics/2006/Christmas/Ingrid_MG_6879.JPG


100% Crop:
http://s179774470.onlinehome.us/henriks/pics/2006/Christmas/100percent_Detail_MG_6879.JPG


Cheers
Henrik



Dec 23, 2006 at 03:02 AM
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p.46 #11 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


That's scary sharp.

I'm hoping canon works out the qc issues so i can get another one.



Dec 23, 2006 at 06:07 AM
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p.46 #12 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


hnordberg said: Here's a pic of my daughter from tonight:

This is the first sharp "real life" picture taken with 50 f/1.2L, I have seen so far.

Thank you.



Dec 23, 2006 at 06:42 AM
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p.46 #13 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


hnordberg wrote:
Here's a pic of my daughter from tonight:

Canon EOS 5D, 50L, 1/60Sec., F4.0, Evaluative metering, ISO 800

Cheers
Henrik


Finally! Now that looks like it's worth the price of entry. Thanks for posting



Dec 23, 2006 at 07:53 AM
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p.46 #14 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


heres a f2 iso200

http://www.pbase.com/wade_abbey/image/72025786.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/wade_abbey/image/72025785.jpg



Dec 23, 2006 at 08:50 AM
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p.46 #15 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


ward1066 said: heres a f2 iso200

Could you please tell me if you can get this type of sharpness consistently (I mean focus)? If the answer is yes, I will have to revisit my opinion about the lens but I am still wondering about copy variation.



Dec 23, 2006 at 08:58 AM
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p.46 #16 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


mfurman wrote:
Could you please tell me if you can get this type of sharpness consistently (I mean focus)? If the answer is yes, I will have to revisit my opinion about the lens but I am still wondering about copy variation.


With this wide of aperture I would have to say it is about on par with the 85L as far as consistency maybe slightly less. It does focus much faster than the 85L and when on AI servo the focus jumps around maybe a little more. I am still learning how to use this baby, after the holidays I will let you know.



Dec 23, 2006 at 09:09 AM
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p.46 #17 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


ward1066 said: when on AI servo the focus jumps around maybe a little more.

Do you mean that you are using AI-servo with this lens for portraits?



Dec 23, 2006 at 09:15 AM
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p.46 #18 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


On my kids I tend to, they cant hold still


Dec 23, 2006 at 09:17 AM
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p.46 #19 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Has anyone seen any barrel distortion tests(brick walls) and have a link? Thanks Clay.


Dec 23, 2006 at 10:07 AM
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p.46 #20 · •Hands-On• EF 50/1.2L


Needless to say, a large reason the "sharp" shots that have been posted earlier seem very sharp is because they've been sharpened. I personally will not go over "Sharpness 2" in DPP or between about Sharpness 12-25 in Lightroom because I'm so often shooting high ISO work and sharpening at full rez (vs. print or web rez) amplifies noise. This is another frustrating aspect of "testing" these lenses - since we all have different sharpening approaches, we're all used to a different level of sharpness at the pixel-level.


Dec 23, 2006 at 10:12 AM
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