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Archive 2006 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS

  
 
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p.3 #1 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Mark, first, thanks for the test and the photos. May I ask this, do you find the IS on the new version of the f/4 L different from the IS on the f/2.8 L, that is, are you able to achieve a slower shutter speed, hand held, witht the f/4 L IS than with the f/2.8 L IS, or is it about the same. When you factor in the cost of a tripod ring (which comes with the f/2.8) the price difference between the new f/4 L IS and the f/2.8 L IS is almost not too bad for what you get in lens speed. The specs show the f/2.8 is twice as heavy as the f/4 and about an inch longer in barrel length and about a half inch larger in diameter. In short, overall, if you had to choose, would you still go for the f/2.8 or would the new f/4 be suitable for most of us, that is, advanced amateurs, maybed semi-pros.
Thanks, Mark, for all you efforts.

Joe Tiemann (Reinheim)



Oct 31, 2006 at 05:32 PM
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p.3 #2 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Joe. i will have to try that when i get home. I only have the two lenses at work. The weight difference is a huge factor between the 2.8 and 4


Oct 31, 2006 at 05:36 PM
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p.3 #3 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Joe, having had both the 70-200 F4 and the 70-200 2.8 IS I can tell you that they are two totally different beasts in terms of size and weight. I suspect it is going to boil down to if you really need the 2.8 then get it. If you don't, save your back and neck and get the F4 IS. I suspect that this lens is going to be very popular as a travel zoom for its lower weight rather than its lower price.


Oct 31, 2006 at 06:32 PM
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p.3 #4 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Hrow wrote:
Wade, That's pretty impressive. I am not sure that my 70-200 2.8 IS would hold up that well at 1/10 sec.


Yeah, and I am getting pretty shakey as I get older. One of these young guys might even to get slower speeds. Heres one with the canon 1.4 TC (handheld from across the street).

1.4X



Oct 31, 2006 at 06:40 PM
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p.3 #5 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Reinheim wrote:
Mark, first, thanks for the test and the photos. May I ask this, do you find the IS on the new version of the f/4 L different from the IS on the f/2.8 L, that is, are you able to achieve a slower shutter speed, hand held, witht the f/4 L IS than with the f/2.8 L IS, or is it about the same. When you factor in the cost of a tripod ring (which comes with the f/2.8) the price difference between the new f/4 L IS and the f/2.8 L IS is almost not too bad for what
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Joe,
When I got my package I thought they sent the wrong lens at first because it was so small. I used to own the 70-200 2.8 non IS and this is little baby in comparison.

http://upload.pbase.com/image/69510395.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/69510918.jpg



Oct 31, 2006 at 08:44 PM
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p.3 #6 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


ward1066 wrote:
Yeah, and I am getting pretty shakey as I get older. One of these young guys might even to get slower speeds. Heres one with the canon 1.4 TC (handheld from across the street).

1.4X


Does the IS work with the extender? Can you still achieve the 4 stop advantage?



Oct 31, 2006 at 09:11 PM
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p.3 #7 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Does on my mark2n, I dont think it does in a 20D/30D, not sure about that. Maybe its the AF that doesnt on the 20D/ 30D?


Oct 31, 2006 at 09:41 PM
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p.3 #8 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


ward1066 wrote:
Does on my mark2n, I dont think it does in a 20D/30D, not sure about that. Maybe its the AF that doesnt on the 20D/ 30D?


Should be fine on the 20D/30D. It is when you drop below 5.6 that you lose AF.



Oct 31, 2006 at 10:58 PM
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p.3 #9 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Henry, I think you are right. I was thinking about my 400 5.6. With a TC it drops below 5.6.


Oct 31, 2006 at 11:09 PM
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p.3 #10 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


So how's the low light performance compared to the f/2.8? Does the newer IS make handheld evening/night shots possible with the f/4? If so that could determine if this lense is going to be added to my travel kit.


Oct 31, 2006 at 11:22 PM
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p.3 #11 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Here is a comparison to the 2.8 IS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=404&FLI=4&API=0&LensComp=103&FLIComp=4&APIComp=2&Camera=9&CameraComp=9

Looks excellent!



Nov 01, 2006 at 11:01 AM
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p.3 #12 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


brunobarolo wrote:
Here is a comparison to the 2.8 IS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=404&FLI=4&API=0&LensComp=103&FLIComp=4&APIComp=2&Camera=9&CameraComp=9

Looks excellent!



That looks pretty amazing!
Where are you guys getting your lenses from? Any deals out there?

Andrew



Nov 01, 2006 at 11:54 AM
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p.3 #13 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


I got mine from B&H, I wish the rebate applied but it doesn't.


Nov 01, 2006 at 11:56 AM
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p.3 #14 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


Hrow wrote:
Wade, That's pretty impressive. I am not sure that my 70-200 2.8 IS would hold up that well at 1/10 sec.


But you will NOT need to push it to 1/10: it would be 1/20 due to 1-stop speed advantage.

Still - very nice though



Nov 01, 2006 at 12:15 PM
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p.3 #15 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


But you will NOT need to push it to 1/10: it would be 1/20 due to 1-stop speed advantage.

That assumes you shoot at F2.8 and don't need F4 for added DOF.



Nov 01, 2006 at 12:40 PM
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p.3 #16 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


i have been sitting in my office and shooting some shots from my seat. I tried the IS vs non IS. What is amazing is that i can get tack sharp images reproducibly at 200mm f4, 1/16th of a second. Without IS not even close at 1/50th of a second. At 1/10th they are still decent but not outstanding and at 1/6 only about 1/5 are reasonable.

Here is a 100% crop at 1/16th



Nov 01, 2006 at 08:48 PM
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p.3 #17 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


The new feature at the-digital-picture.com for comparing crops of different lenses at different fstops is really great. This lens seems to be a gem by any means.

Just hope it will be shipped in Europe soon.



Nov 02, 2006 at 03:54 AM
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p.3 #18 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


I've just seen some pics on pbase - looks like it's gonna be THE lens for panning shots.. ...especially if you're into aviation photography



Nov 02, 2006 at 11:22 AM
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p.3 #19 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


i will try to post some comparisons on sat


Nov 02, 2006 at 03:43 PM
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p.3 #20 · •Hands-On• EF 70-200/4 L IS


mark1958 wrote:
i will try to post some comparisons on sat


Would you mind including an Extender 1.4 in your comparisons? Images with the f4 IS + 1.4 don't look so great on the-digital-picture.com. Thanks.



Nov 02, 2006 at 04:32 PM
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