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p.12 #1 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Now, here I was thinking they had brought back the beautiful leather Leica Bag they made many years ago, only to find a bloody tote bag!

Do not forget the wonderful if expensive Luigi cases. I had three. Only problem: they are so beautifully made I rarely used them for fear of damaging them...

http://www.leicatime.com/CorridaMokafBuilt-in-gripFront.jpg





Oct 13, 2006 at 02:57 AM
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p.12 #2 · Re: M8/ I committed


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Hi Rob,

Yes, my Wein safe-synch could be used the same way. The problem with either the current Wein or the set up you show is that it moves the finder quite a bit above the lens, increasing parallax. What I have in mind is an adapter that adds only, perhaps, a 1/4" to the shoe height. Being that shallow, it would need to feed a short cord out directly from the adapter and that short cord could end in a female plug with full TTL connections, etc. I prefer to keep the accessory finders as close to the lens as
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The external finder and flash problem is one reason I sold my 21mm once I heard the M8 did not support the 21mm with the internal finder. Though I seldom use flash on the M, I rigged up the above cables and adapter so I could use TTL if I needed to.

The best solution would have been for Leica to put a multipin socket on the camera similar to the remote socket on the DMR drive and sell a mating cord and remote flash shoe and ctoom equivalent bracket.

The M8 is pretty well finished, so your solution of a thin flash adapter with moulded in cable is probably the only solution. Maybe a third party will make such a device.



Oct 13, 2006 at 08:05 AM
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I'm looking for a bag that is shallow. I want to carry an M8 with lens attached, and maybe 4 additional lenses with hoods attached. It needs to be shallow with adjustable dividers, so I can reach in and grab a lens, with out fumbling for a lens underneath another lens. I don't plan on carrying a flash. Maybe a lens cleaning brush and wipes, several filters, and that's it. I have the Billingham Leica M bag, but to carry 4 lenses I would have to put the lenses in pouchs, and stack on top of one another. I would probably use this bag for bike riding when I need only two lenses, plus a third lens mounted on camera. Any suggestions? What are you planning for a bag? My lenses are larger than the typical Leica lenses. I have 24mm Leica ASPH, and ZM 21, 28, 35, and 50 f1.5....most are larger than their Leica counterparts.
Thanks in advance
Dave



Oct 13, 2006 at 09:42 AM
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p.12 #4 · Re: M8/ I committed


sreidvt wrote:
Hi Woody,

I would hold off on any concern about the vignetting until you see samples made with the M8 and various wide lenses. I'll have some within the next couple weeks, I believe.

Cheers,

Sean


Will do Sean and thanks. However it doesn't change my wonder at why they chose a raw converter to bundle that has no vignetting controls. I would hate a workflow where I used one raw converter because it does the best and most accurate color conversion and then go to another raw converter for vignette control. I would probably opt for Lightroom and do it all there.



Oct 13, 2006 at 10:09 AM
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gurtch wrote:
I'm looking for a bag that is shallow. I want to carry an M8 with lens attached, and maybe 4 additional lenses with hoods attached. It needs to be shallow with adjustable dividers, so I can reach in and grab a lens, with out fumbling for a lens underneath another lens. I don't plan on carrying a flash. Maybe a lens cleaning brush and wipes, several filters, and that's it. I have the Billingham Leica M bag, but to carry 4 lenses I would have to put the lenses in pouchs, and stack on top of one another. I would
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Find the original "Leica Kombitasche M Klein" by Leica,they are on the B@y quite regularly. Beautifully made in nappaleather and fitted exactly for the Leica M with up to 4 extra lenses and some accesories.
For the M and two extra lenses and some stuff I use a bag that came with my Sigma ring flash, and it is an exact fit, but it is worth it to browse through the video bages in your local camera shop.



Edited by jaapv on Oct 13, 2006 at 02:18 PM GMT



Oct 13, 2006 at 10:12 AM
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innerimager wrote:
Folks- I have a line on a ex condition 50 summilux, pre ASPH, I believe just a few years old, for $1100, maybe a few bucks less. This seems like a good price. My question is how it compares to the ASPH and the crons. I've found info on the ASPH/crons. but not really on the last generation of the luxes pre-ASPH. Thanks for any advice. Best....Peter


That is a pretty good lens, and not too expensive at that price. Though it lacks the crisp rendering of high-contrast highlights the ASPH gives, it has a very attractive fingerprint. The ASPH shines wide open in low light where it is totally coma-free, but in all normal shooting situations and especially stopped down beyond 2.8 I defy anybody to tell a difference in sharpness. The ASPH will stil be a bit more contrasty and punchier though, but there is always post-processing....



Oct 13, 2006 at 10:17 AM
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carstenw wrote:
I figured out what my current travel and full kit weighs, just body and lenses, and what the M8 kit would weigh. My full current kit (5D, 17-40L, Leica 35/2, 50/2, 80/1.4, 135/2.8, 180/2.8) weighs about 4,1kg, and the travel version (17-40L, 50/2, 80/1.4) weighs 2,2kg.


Carsten,

don't tell me... you come from a lightweight DSLR!

I use the 1Ds... which is a brick weighing like:

M8 + 16-18-21 + lux 35 asph + Apo 75

I talk about body alone without any lens and I can't even fit it into my little Tamrac 601 where the Leica + lenses, hoods and finder would accomodate easily!!

Ok, I need to add the weight of the external finder...




Oct 13, 2006 at 10:44 AM
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p.12 #8 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Is that the Combination M bag

No, Guy it's this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leica-soft-leather-compartment-shoulder-bag_W0QQitemZ170038713783QQihZ007QQcategoryZ30030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Oct 13, 2006 at 10:46 AM
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jaapv wrote:
That is a pretty good lens, and not too expensive at that price. Though it lacks the crisp rendering of high-contrast highlights the ASPH gives, it has a very attractive fingerprint. The ASPH shines wide open in low light where it is totally coma-free, but in all normal shooting situations and especially stopped down beyond 2.8 I defy anybody to tell a difference in sharpness. The ASPH will stil be a bit more contrasty and punchier though, but there is always post-processing....


Thank you, Jaap



Oct 13, 2006 at 10:58 AM
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p.12 #10 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Is that the Combination M bag

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=287055&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Guy: That's the one I have. Too deep and you have to put lenses in soft pouches and stack them on top of each other. Nice bag for a camera with lens attached and TWO more lenses.
Dave



Oct 13, 2006 at 11:01 AM
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p.12 #11 · Re: M8/ I committed


I can't believe this 44 pages and the M8 isn't even out.


Oct 13, 2006 at 11:09 AM
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p.12 #12 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Is that the Combination M bag

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=287055&is=REG&addedTroughType=search


No it is not; that is the new one by Billingham. Nice, but not in the league of the original one.



Oct 13, 2006 at 11:43 AM
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p.12 #13 · Re: M8/ I committed


johnastovall wrote:
Not quite; I'll post a photo as soon as I have time.



Oct 13, 2006 at 11:45 AM
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p.12 #14 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Closed


Not sure I like that gap at the ends. I would like it to cover that better. A Domke F4 maybe what's needed.




Oct 13, 2006 at 12:03 PM
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p.12 #15 · Re: M8/ I committed


Actually I had owned the "Leica Kombitasche M Klein" bag some years ago and didnt find it that great because its very stiff and not flexible to carry.
looks nice, feels nice, but IMO not great if you plan to walk a lot with the bag.



Oct 13, 2006 at 12:36 PM
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p.12 #16 · Re: M8/ I committed



The Artisan&Artist bag that Guy posted is one cool looking bag for sure,
especially with the Leica Red associated color interior... Supercool!



Oct 13, 2006 at 04:09 PM
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p.12 #17 · Re: M8/ I committed


sreidvt wrote:
Hi Woody,

They chose C1, I believe, because it's the best RAW converter out there with respect to final file quality. That's been my experience at least.

Best,

Sean



Sean

I use C1 exclusively for my current work but am looking at Lightroom as well now. I would love to have it all in one product but that doesn't seem to be in the cards (unless the Lightroom Raw Converter is significantly better than ACR!). My hope is that C1 version 4.0, when it is released, will be faster and have lens corrections as well. If that is true, I will certainly pay whatever the upgrade price from 3.7.5 and be a happy camper.

Woody



Oct 13, 2006 at 04:27 PM
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p.12 #18 · Re: M8/ I committed


The Lightroom raw converter is significantly better than ACR. Try it. I don't know if it is as good as C1 though.


Oct 13, 2006 at 04:28 PM
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p.12 #19 · Re: M8/ I committed


Guys

I have a very small Briggs and Reilly case which I have used for my M's for the past five years. It easily holds the body with lens, and room for a small flash, and up to 4 lenses. You can actually have more than four if you are willing to keep them in the leather cases ( I use the very thin Zeiss cases that came with my G2 system) and stack them. The case is deep enough for them.

Anyway this case is now no longer listed although I may be looking at the wrong places. I lived in Half Moon Bay CA when i bought this and the Briggs and Reilly company was started there so I had access to all the products. I will try to pull in some favors to see if there is a stash of these bags somewhere. They were ballistic canvas so light and bulletproof and cheap.

I will post a picture of mine shortly.

Woody



Oct 13, 2006 at 04:31 PM
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p.12 #20 · Re: M8/ I committed


sreidvt wrote:
They chose C1, I believe, because it's the best RAW converter out there with respect to final file quality. That's been my experience at least.


Sean,

have you ever tried Raw Developer ?
I found R-D1 conversions excellent as far as colors and subtle tonal transitions.
It has also a wonderful hybrid sharpening tecnique.

Most of the time it gives better conversions than C1, which I like a lot on my 1Ds btw.

Cheers



Oct 13, 2006 at 04:42 PM
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