arctic-puffin wrote:
What happend to being a good photographer? I have said it before and I will say it again. Is someone a good photographer or a good photoshopper? It is getting harder to tell the difference these days.
I will quote Ansel Adams; (keep in mind he worked more in the darkroom than behind the camera).
"The negative is the photographer's score, his sheet music. The print is his performance".
As a photographer I captured Courtney's beauty, her personality, and feelings. The print simply conveys those attributes and it is incumbant upon the photographer/print maker to do so to the best of his or her abilities. All the "Photoshopping" in the world cannot make a bad photograph good, but it can make a good photograph better. Good Photoshopping comes after good photography.
I will quote Ansel Adams; (keep in mind he worked more in the darkroom than behind the camera).
"The negative is the photographer's score, his sheet music. The print is his performance".
As a photographer I captured Courtney's beauty, her personality, and feelings. The print simply conveys those attributes and it is incumbant upon the photographer/print maker to do so to the best of his or her abilities. All the "Photoshopping" in the world cannot make a bad photograph good, but it can make a good photograph better. Good Photoshopping comes after good photography.
Phil
I am an Ansel Adams fan, however, I doubt very much that Ansel Adams used Adobe Photoshop. And yes, you did capture Courtneys beauty. Very well I might add. As for your last sentence: "Good Photoshopping comes after good photography."........I don't think so.
I am an Ansel Adams fan, however, I doubt very much that Ansel Adams used Adobe Photoshop. And yes, you did capture Courtneys beauty. Very well I might add. As for your last sentence: "Good Photoshopping comes after good photography."........I don't think so.
You're right, Ansel Adams did not use Photoshop, but he would have; the concensus among all who knew him say "Definitely" he would have been a Photoshop Guru... Ansel Adams spent more time in the darkroom than he did behind the camera dodging, burning, scrubbing, etc. all darkroom tricks to tweak the final print, the same basic premise behind processing with Photoshop. It's an undisputed fact. As for my last sentence, we agree to disagree....
This tutorial is really important to someone, me, who is just learning to apply the software tools to his raw files. I never thought I'd have the flexiblilty of film photography in digital, now I know it is possible, thanks.
BilWil wrote:
This tutorial is really important to someone, me, who is just learning to apply the software tools to his raw files. I never thought I'd have the flexiblilty of film photography in digital, now I know it is possible, thanks.
Good luck to you! Keep shooting and keep experimenting with Photoshop.
You're right, Ansel Adams did not use Photoshop, but he would have; the concensus among all who knew him say "Definitely" he would have been a Photoshop Guru... Ansel Adams spent more time in the darkroom than he did behind the camera dodging, burning, scrubbing, etc. all darkroom tricks to tweak the final print, the same basic premise behind processing with Photoshop. It's an undisputed fact. As for my last sentence, we agree to disagree....
Phil
I am honestly so tired of people complaining about Photoshop, as to insinuate photoshop takes away from good photography. The fact is that Ansel Adams DID use Photoshop, back then it was called the a DARKROOM .
In my readings about his last years, there is a mention from one of his beloved apprentices on how one day Adams came screaming out of his darkroom saying "I got it, I finally got the print as I wanted". The apprentice assumes this excitement was from a recent photo taken. It was not; it was on a negative he has taken more than 15 years back!! He was famous for processing negatives time after time after time until finally he would be satisfied he had got the print the way he saw the subject when he took the picture.
Dodging, burning, mixing chemicals to get different colors and tonal ranges - trying different papers, it is no different from what we do with Photoshop. Photography is a creative expression, if you choose it to be, and it is up to the artist to decide how to interpret how they see the subject.
You think Ansal Adams would have been a Photoshop freak, you should see what Picasso would have done with that darn software.
PS: I am not a Photoshop freak, some of my favorite photographers use very little software (i.e photoshop elements) but instead will set a photo-shoot with 8-10-15 different light! That by the way is yet another photo manipulation tool.
So kudos to Phil for the excellent job making a beautiful women even more beautiful.
I am honestly so tired of people complaining about Photoshop, as to insinuate photoshop takes away from good photography. The fact is that Ansel Adams DID use Photoshop, back then it was called the a DARKROOM .
In my readings about his last years, there is a mention from one of his beloved apprentices on how one day Adams came screaming out of his darkroom saying "I got it, I finally got the print as I wanted". The apprentice assumes this excitement was from a recent photo taken. It was not; it was on a negative he has taken more than 15 years back!! He was famous for processing negatives time after time after time until finally he would be satisfied he had got the print the way he saw the subject when he took the picture.
Dodging, burning, mixing chemicals to get different colors and tonal ranges - trying different papers, it is no different from what we do with Photoshop. Photography is a creative expression, if you choose it to be, and it is up to the artist to decide how to interpret how they see the subject.
You think Ansal Adams would have been a Photoshop freak, you should see what Picasso would have done with that darn software.
PS: I am not a Photoshop freak, some of my favorite photographers use very little software (i.e photoshop elements) but instead will set a photo-shoot with 8-10-15 different light! That by the way is yet another photo manipulation tool.
So kudos to Phil for the excellent job making a beautiful women even more beautiful.
