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cyberstudio wrote:
Given that the defect is not an isolated incident, I will have to pull this product off the market. I would issue a refund to all affected customers. My apologies to customers who have bought from us. I hope you could send the defective unit back to us it would help identify what went wrong.



Please don't give up. We all appreciate the time and effort you have invested in the process of decoding these lenses. Hope you can correct the problem, and we will be happy to buy your products. Nothing will be perfect at the beginning. Please do come back and bring us good news about your further success!

Kind regards,
Lesong



Sep 15, 2006 at 09:42 PM
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p.7 #2 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


I agree. You are 99% there. Don't give up now


Sep 15, 2006 at 10:10 PM
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p.7 #3 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


LeSong wrote, "Please don't give up. We all appreciate the time and effort you have invested in the process of decoding these lenses. Hope you can correct the problem, and we will be happy to buy your products. Nothing will be perfect at the beginning. Please do come back and bring us good news about your further success!

Kind regards,
Lesong"


I received the refund today and was very dispointed that the conversion kit could not come to me before the delay. However, I wish the money was not refunded and I would wait until you resolve the problem. I had my own struggles with my own customed adapters where I was ridiculed but in the end I kept working on it and now the product is working perfectly. There is so much energy, time and money has to be put in to create these products. I will fully support your works if you need any assistance. Let me know and like LeSong and Graham mentioned don't give up on the great job you have already begun. This is my first time commenting on your product here publicly. I am sure you know that I am a believer in your conversion kit and will continue to support this great project of yours. I hope I will be the first one to get the conversion kits when you feel ready to release them again. I am confident that you will resolve these issues and the success will await ahead of you. Like LeSong said before, "the perservering spirit wins."

Best and Kindest Regards,
-Son



Sep 15, 2006 at 10:18 PM
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p.7 #4 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


I believe with every new product, there will always be bugs. It is inevitable. As a customer of Conurus, I personally have enough faith in the product and the hard work that went into it that I am not quite ready to give up on it yet.

I am willing to wait.

Regards,
Ty




Sep 15, 2006 at 11:11 PM
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p.7 #5 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


Cyberstudio,

I work in a company specialized in new web technologies and I perfectly understand the kind of issues and problems that one can encounter during software development, especially at low-level, where you need to interface directly with electronics and embed some procedures in dedicated processing units.

For this reason, as the others here, I hope SINCERELY that you don't stop now your project and I'm sure that you'll find the solution very soon. So, don't worry and keep up the good work! This is your forum too and it's a fantastic place with great human beings.

I would like to know also if this kind of issue could halt or modify the planned schedule for the 645 adapter's release date.

Please, keep us informed!

Ciao,

Emanuele



Sep 16, 2006 at 02:38 AM
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p.7 #6 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


Bo-ming

please don't refund my payment yet. Please persevere. I am one of the many who are desperate to see N lenses on EOS, especially now that I've bought a new 24-85. If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know. You are so close: for a short time I saw it work with my own eyes.

Here's a quote from Star Wars to cheer us all up.

"General Kenobi: Years ago, you served my father in the Clone Wars; now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person; but my ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to Alderaan has failed. I've placed information vital to the survival of the rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope."

Please send me your address so that I can post you my droid.



Sep 16, 2006 at 10:13 AM
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Well said brainiac


Sep 16, 2006 at 10:47 AM
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Thank you for the encouragement!

At this time, I have not identified the root cause. It is just that while I work on it, I should not be keeping your money.

My apologies again, but please be assured that I am not giving up. This step (refund) is taken only to prevent the situation from further deteriorating.






Sep 16, 2006 at 11:42 AM
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p.7 #9 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


Thats better than, you are the last hope in this universe. I wanted to go for my first lens this week but I want to see first, how it works before I get some Zeiss N glass. I really hope you can finish what you began, all Zeiss N lenses should have a futur


Sep 16, 2006 at 03:08 PM
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bathman wrote:
Thats better than, you are the last hope in this universe. I wanted to go for my first lens this week but I want to see first, how it works before I get some Zeiss N glass. I really hope you can finish what you began, all Zeiss N lenses should have a futur


I'm in the same boat, Andi and, I think, more other people are... I agree that Conurus's solution is a great opportunity to use some very good glass from Contax N and 645 systems and at this point I would like to know something more about 645 adapter.

I've an opportunity on a 645 Distagon 35/3.5 but I don't know how it could perform on a Canon body nor if it will be possible to use it. Someone knows this lens (is it on par with the C/Y CZ 21mm or Leica's 19mm)? And is there some adapter to start use 645 lenses on Canons (awaiting for the more advanced Conurus solution)?

Ciao,

Emanuele

P.S. As said before, all my support to cyberstudio and his efforts.



Sep 16, 2006 at 05:01 PM
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Emanuele,
The Contax 645 Distagon 3.5/35 is not in the par with your Zeiss 21 or the Leica 19. However, it is one of the best wide angle for the medium format for sure. But I would not rated it as the lens you must get. Go with your 40 CFE IF Hassy or the Sinar 40 mm F4. ZH. These are the lens for your medium format wide angle. I love the 55 mm F3.5 the most in the Contax N system.

Son



Sep 16, 2006 at 05:13 PM
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Hi Son! Thanks for your advice.

Actually I'm in the situation in which I must choose a super-wide for my Canon body and, after evaluating the CZ 21 and other candidates, I'm leaning toward Leica's 19mm (last version). I've considered the 645 35/3.5 as a possible alternative but the more I learn the more the Leica seems to be the right and definitive choice (for me, at least).

Some day I hope to add a medium format to my equipment and the Hasselblad 40 CFE IF is my list now. Thankyou!

Ciao,

Emanuele



Sep 16, 2006 at 05:23 PM
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p.7 #13 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


Emanuele,
If you are using the lens on the Canon full frame body, I recommend the Zeiss 21 mm F2.8 (Jon Boring just won a contest with this lens and of course Jon is also a great landscape photographer himself and thus no surprise to see the success from the combination). If you have or plan to have the Leica DMR (the colors is really special here) then it makes sense to go with the Leica 19. And if you plan to go to medium format and wide angle, the Hassy 40 mm CFE IF is the choice.

Son



Sep 16, 2006 at 08:36 PM
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Son,

I know CZ21 capabilities and I don't know if some day I'll buy a DMR system but, currently, I'm using an Apo-Summicron 180/2 and LOVE its colours on my little 350D; I love also its incredible sharpness and, last but not the least, built quality.
I've had the CZ15 and 18 but was not satisfied by 18's corner sharpness, even stopped down: otherwise its best feature was the compactness and almost no distortion.

After reading a ton of posts, seen examples and digged comparisons (a particular thanks to Hubsand and Marco for tests and samples), I've found this little Leica to be probably the best between the two: it has a little less corner-sharpness (wide open) than the CZ21 but I like its colours the more, it's compactness, low distortion (no 21's moustache), built quality and, obviously, the possibility to use it on a DMR (who knows what will happen in my future! ). It's also a *little* wider.

My opinion is that, at a so high level, it's a matter of personal taste too.

Other, more practical, considerations are about Leica as a company with good perspectives, good representatives and assistance (here in Italy), people that speak your language (it's a great thing, especially when you need to explain some technical issues that eventually happen) and an higher reselling value (in Italy at least).

Ciao and thanks again for your precious advice. Kind person, as usual. Very appreciated.

P.S. Excuse me for this little off-topic, guys!



Sep 17, 2006 at 03:52 AM
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Caro Emanuel,
Esso un piacere ripartire le informazioni con voi in moda da poterli aiutarsi noi nella nostra ricerca fotografica di arte. Credo in obiettivo grandangolare questi due ed avrete così l'ottico grande per fare il vostro lavoro. Desidero che avete avuti l'occasione avere entramba obiettivo allo stesso tempo e lavorare con loro per vedere quale obiettivo li servirà più. Soltanto in questo modo volontà capite il vostro pulitore choice.

I egualmente possiede il Leica e lo ama. È uno del mio obiettivo favorito di tutto il tempo. Nel frattempo, possiamo comunicare qui con riempiamo lo spazio fino a completare il Contax N.

Riguardi Migliori,
-Son



Sep 17, 2006 at 05:55 AM
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Pham Minh Son wrote:
Caro Emanuel,
Esso un piacere ripartire le informazioni con voi in moda da poterli aiutarsi noi nella nostra ricerca fotografica di arte. Credo in obiettivo grandangolare questi due ed avrete così l'ottico grande per fare il vostro lavoro. Desidero che avete avuti l'occasione avere entramba obiettivo allo stesso tempo e lavorare con loro per vedere quale obiettivo li servirà più. Soltanto in questo modo volontà capite il vostro pulitore choice.

I egualmente possiede il Leica e lo ama. È uno del mio obiettivo favorito di tutto il tempo. Nel frattempo, possiamo comunicare qui con riempiamo lo spazio fino a
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Caro Son,

sono stupito del tuo italiano, mi hai piacevolmente sorpreso! Di certo il mio cinese non è così buono!

Tornando agli obiettivi, in definitiva quello che mi stai dicendo, ed è anche quello che penso io, è, che alla fine, uno o l'altro è la stessa cosa: si tratta di scelte al top e quindi le differenze sono minimali. Certo l'ideale sarebbe di averli entrambi e provarli uno di fianco all'altro ma non sempre questo è possibile. Intanto prendo il 19mm, poi, in futuro, chissà!

Ciaoooo!

Emanuele

***International English translation***
Dear Son,

I'm surprised! Your italian is very good, certainly better than my chinese!

As for the lenses, what you're saying is the same I've been thinking in the last days: the CZ 21 and the Leica 19 are top-of-line choices and the differences between them are minimal. Moreover it would be great to try them both side-by-side but it's not always possible (at least for me). For now I'll go with the 19mm but, who knows, some day I could add the CZ 21 too.

Ciaoooo!

Emanuele
*****

I hope my english is good enough!



Sep 17, 2006 at 06:46 AM
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Pham Minh Son wrote:
Emanuele,
If you are using the lens on the Canon full frame body, I recommend the Zeiss 21 mm F2.8 (Jon Boring just won a contest with this lens and of course Jon is also a great landscape photographer himself and thus no surprise to see the success from the combination). If you have or plan to have the Leica DMR (the colors is really special here) then it makes sense to go with the Leica 19. And if you plan to go to medium format and wide angle, the Hassy 40 mm CFE IF is the choice.

Son


Hi Son,
so, you think Hassy 40mmCFE IF is a better lens than the Contax 35mm f3.5? i have the old 40 CF IF and I wondered if it's as good as the 40mm CFE(except without electronics) or the Contax 35mm? I don't have contax 35mm but I have the 45mm f2.8 (but it's not as wide).
At some point, I was thinking to get the 55mm f3.5, however, I thought at that time it's not as wide as the 45 and it's not as fast. I gave up the opportunity at that time. Now, after your comment, I might be regretted.

Emanuele, I think using a hassy 40mm or Contax 645 35mm on Canon will not be as sharp as even the Canon 35f1.4, I assumed?? The resolution of the MF lenses are not as good as the 35 mm lenses. However, the color and contrast can be very good. but this is just my 2 cents.



Sep 17, 2006 at 09:25 AM
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p.7 #18 · Contax N to Canon conversion - initial results


cyberstudio wrote:
Given that the defect is not an isolated incident, I will have to pull this product off the market. I would issue a refund to all affected customers. My apologies to customers who have bought from us. I hope you could send the defective unit back to us it would help identify what went wrong.



I'm still in for the 17-35mm conversion, when time/product development permits...

Don't give up, this is a great idea!

Andy



Sep 17, 2006 at 09:35 AM
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Andrew Gough wrote:
I'm still in for the 17-35mm conversion...

Andy


Me too and, I bet, another bunch of people here.



Sep 17, 2006 at 09:38 AM
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I hope you could send the defective unit back to us it would help identify what went wrong.

Hi Bo-ming

this is the third time I am asking you to send me your address. It does not appear on your web site. I can't send the circuit back for you to analyse unless I have your address.

Thanks
Richard



Sep 17, 2006 at 10:42 AM
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