Yes, I know that you can't read Hebrew but I'll translate:
This year
August will be different
24/8/06
Every legend has a beginning
Reference: D-spot is one of two Israel's biggest online photography sites. To tell you the truth, I am very surprised to see it here first. Just don't ask me for more details. I don't know and the site's owner dose not tell. NDA I guess.
Is there any information in this thread other than this first post? Anybody read the whole thread?
DavidP wrote:
That sounds very promising. Throw in a pellicle mirror, and you've got something.
Well, quickly loose at least one stop of light! The original Canon Pellix was rather much a dud and could cause serious flare when shooting in cool humid environments with condensation on BOTH sides of the mirror. Yes, you can easily get higher FPS without the mirror. The obvious down side is that Canon would need to come out with a 24mm / 35mm / 50mm / 85mm / 135mm F1.0 to compensate.
Imagine the folks now asking "How do I clean the damn thing on the back side of the mirror?"
Pellicle mirrors would be a "speciality" item and, unless Canon has changed their style about target consumers, I seriously doubt that this would be a mainstream offering.
>> The same question can be asked of car manufacturers, why do they build trucks, 4x4's, mini vans, full sized vans, cheap economy cars, hybrid cars, sports cars, family sedans
Because there is a big market for each type. I am not sure the same holds true for the MF market.
>> Sure current MF photographers may not jump at a Canon MF digital but those future pro photographers that started with Canon Digital (ie a Rebel) may grow through stages to other possibilities 30D, 5D, ID MKII, 1Ds MK II (not necessarily all of them but the choices are there).
The most important word here is "may". It may happen and it may not. There is always a gap in the market but not always there is a market in the gap.
>> But when you reach the 1Ds MK II where does the person go for MF, well not Canon as they have no offering.
I'd say IF you reach....
>> Is there any information in this thread other than this first post?
Nope. Come to think of it, even this post does not offer much info... :-)
It's easier in the US, with accessible credit for enterpreneurs, and more accessible cameras, but outside the US, custom taxes and currency exchange rates, plus devalued professional work, makes it hard for even pros to go for top of the notch equipments.
In Brazil, most Pro photographers I know, shoot 30D and D200 cameras. Sometimes the 5D is still affordable, but for the regular usage of the photos, the 8Mp is more than enough ( ie: marriage, small ads, catalogues, etc ). The problem comes with bigger ad campaigns and fashion, where you would desire to crop the image and still have a nice print resolution without interpolation, for outdoors or posters. Those people go for the 5D and 1Ds MkII, but they're rare, simply because here a 5D goes for around US$5000 and the 1DsMkII for around US$14.000. Let's not go pricing medium format digital backs, let's just say many people still shoot MF with film.
So, your paycheck has to justify the extra investment. Sometimes it's better to have a film body around for when you need the extra resolution, and have it scanned, and a 30D body for using everyday; than go an outrageous cost to have a 1Ds MkII, and not have how to have it pay for itself... not because you don't make money, but simply, because compared to the US standard, here the investment in such bodies has an incredibly higher cost.
I guess this compares with other countries out there.
yes every post read.....wow.....did i really have that much spare time.......no wiser though.....never did get anything from pixel from his documentation.....CMOM MATE I WANT TO BELEIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......SURELY US AUSSIES NEVER LIE....
You guys can stop speculating. There will not be any new 1D-series for 2nd half of 2006; so don't expect any earth-shattering news to be unveiled on Aug 24 and for the rest of 2006 for the EOS System.
The "legend" is more likely to be something to compete against the Sony Alpha A100 and Nikon's new D80 cameras.
What may be more interesting is a possible EF 500mm f/2.8L IS DO USM lens to be announced at September's Photokina - I think I saw a prototype of it being tested at a recent motorsports event by a Japanese photographer. The lens barrel has the same diameter as the existing EF 400 f/2.8 IS and EF 600f/4 IS but is slightly longer than the former and shorter than the latter. Oh yes, the photographer kept the whole lens wrapped up in a special leather casing which looks a bit like a rain cover for lenses. I asked him what kind of lens it was but the fella just ignored my question and pretend he couldn't speak English. I will post up the picture I shot of him with that lens one of these days.
The 500mm's announcement is only a possibility at Photokina; prototypes can take a longer time to become commercial realities - prototype of an EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM was first shown at Photokina 1992 but the commercialized version was only unveiled during summer of 1999!
But I suspect that the EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM will soon have an improved version of its long-discontinued sibling joining the EF line-up by end of this year!
>> I actually saw the banner when it was up. What exactly made it "official" ?
The fact that it had a Canon logo and the fact that it appeared in a respectable site.
>> You guys can stop speculating. There will not be any new 1D-series for 2nd half of 2006; so don't expect any earth-shattering news to be unveiled on Aug 24 and for the rest of 2006 for the EOS System.
1. It is fun speculating.
2. What are your sources?
Well, a Canon logo isn't too difficult to find on the web, and pretty much anyone can make a flash animation. Why would they advertise on only one site?
kisielk wrote:
Well, a Canon logo isn't too difficult to find on the web, and pretty much anyone can make a flash animation. Why would they advertise on only one site?
There is a slim possibility of why based on how they announced the 5D.
It was a couple of named Canon-Spain officials who first dropped the hint in February of 2005 that Canon planned an autumn announcement of a new camera model between the 20D and the 1D Mk II. In late September, the spec sheet for the 5D was leaked to the Internet...in Spanish.
Perhaps Canon Inc allows selected regional subsidiaries to be "designated leakers."
If so, it was the Canon Mid-East subsidiary exec who first spoke publically of the the "next generation" of 1D...and here we see a hint again from Canon Mid-East.
lordcarl wrote:
What may be more interesting is a possible EF 500mm f/2.8L IS DO USM lens to be announced at September's Photokina - I think I saw a prototype of it being tested at a recent motorsports event by a Japanese photographer. The lens barrel has the same diameter as the existing EF 400 f/2.8 IS and EF 600f/4 IS but is slightly longer than the former and shorter than the latter. Oh yes, the photographer kept the whole lens wrapped up in a special leather casing which looks a bit like a rain cover for lenses. I asked him what kind of lens it was but the fella just ignored my question and pretend he couldn't speak English. I will post up the picture I shot of him with that lens one of these days...Show more →
Possible, but I would expect that at 500 mm and f/2.8, the diameter would need to be larger than that of the 400/2.8 by around 35 mm or so. Otherwise, it would not be an f/2.8 lens by definition.
The 500mm's announcement is only a possibility at Photokina; prototypes can take a longer time to become commercial realities - prototype of an EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM was first shown at Photokina 1992 but the commercialized version was only unveiled during summer of 1999!
But I suspect that the EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM will soon have an improved version of its long-discontinued sibling joining the EF line-up by end of this year!
That would be useful, but I also suspect that it would be pricey.
i honestly wouldn't be THAT suprised if they did in fact drop a 500/2.8 DO IS USM, considering there was a leak about this lens back in like 2001 or something.... It's doable, and people would buy it. But boy would it be EXPENSIVE!
Yet another example of hooey that hoping that by being authoritatively-stated, it will somehow be mistaken for actual insight. A tin-plated turd, nothing more.
lordcarl wrote:
You guys can stop speculating. There will not be any new 1D-series for 2nd half of 2006; so don't expect any earth-shattering news to be unveiled on Aug 24 and for the rest of 2006 for the EOS System.
The "legend" is more likely to be something to compete against the Sony Alpha A100 and Nikon's new D80 cameras.
What may be more interesting is a possible EF 500mm f/2.8L IS DO USM lens to be announced at September's Photokina - I think I saw a prototype of it being tested at a recent motorsports event by a Japanese photographer. The lens barrel has the same diameter as the existing EF 400 f/2.8 IS and EF 600f/4 IS but is slightly longer than the former and shorter than the latter. Oh yes, the photographer kept the whole lens wrapped up in a special leather casing which looks a bit like a rain cover for lenses. I asked him what kind of lens it was but the fella just ignored my question and pretend he couldn't speak English. I will post up the picture I shot of him with that lens one of these days.
The 500mm's announcement is only a possibility at Photokina; prototypes can take a longer time to become commercial realities - prototype of an EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM was first shown at Photokina 1992 but the commercialized version was only unveiled during summer of 1999!
But I suspect that the EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM will soon have an improved version of its long-discontinued sibling joining the EF line-up by end of this year!...Show more →
Sprout Crumble wrote:
Well said. A cheap base-model Canon would be great for all the reasons you stated. The D50 has been a great seller and the Pentax models are also very strong sellers in many markets. They're cheap. Canons 350D requires that you're a little more certain that you want to get into DSLR photography. Canon need an impulse buy body for the masses.
Well, right now the net is flooded with fake ads, - but this, if true, might be what I was suggesting:
