For any fan of Bob's it was a sad news to learn of his death in March. Many thought at the time it was suicide, sadly that has now been confirmed at an inquest
Photographer Bob Carlos Clarke 'took his own life' when he was struck by a train in London on 25 March, an inquest has heard.
The award-winning photographer died after he threw himself in front of a Waterloo-bound train at the White Hart Lane level-crossing in Barnes, southwest London.
Kingston Coroners office told AP this morning: 'The deceased took his own life'.
Carlos Clarke worked in many areas of photography including fashion, advertising and photojournalism. His untimely death stunned the photographic world.
Before he died the 55-year-old had been a patient at The Priory hospital in Roehampton where he was understood to have been undergoing treatment for clinical depression.
The coroner confirmed that he died of multiple injuries
A gifted photographer but sadly like many gifted people, a troubled soul
It's just how inquests work. Until everything is thoroughly investigated the official cause of death is not pronounced
I actually had a pal killed by a train about 16 years ago. Nobody knew at the time how or why it happened. The investigation brought some closure for his family and friends, an accident taking a short cut home.
Bob was obviously a man with a history of depression, so naturally the first thought was suicide. But still, such a serious matter needs to be fully looked in to before they can give a cause of death
Everything in Britain takes forever. Six months for an inquest that should take no more than a week to compile is fairly normal. People have to wait 6 years for hip transplants with the National Health System.
Rhys wrote:
Everything in Britain takes forever. Six months for an inquest that should take no more than a week to compile is fairly normal. People have to wait 6 years for hip transplants with the National Health System.
Six years, huh. It's actually 11 month http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3749801.stm 11 month. Plus in work or out of work everybody in this country, man woman and child no matter their class colour or greed is entitled to & will receive treatment no matter the condition. Now correct me if i'm wrong but i know i'm not. That's not the same for the states. Some people just can't afford it or are bankrupt by it.
If you think that a death on a track, can be investigated, processed, families informed, friends and family interviewed ect in a week, get witness statements, have them attend court if it's required. Then have the families lay to rest their loved after the post mortem. Then i'm afraid what you are doing is comparing something as vital as an inquest to importing a lens
In the country you now reside in, it can be the case that a six people jury is sworn in if it's warranted, a death in such a matter has to be looked in to, it's a serious matter, a week is a joke. Inquests are only held because the death was in unusual circumstances. That my friend does not take a week
Edited by Sean-mcr on Jul 26, 2006 at 01:31 PM GMT
paulhodson wrote:
We are expecting the inquest to take place on Princess Diana soon.
Well that's because there was an inquest in France many years ago. Complete and thorough,. But since then it's been turned in to some sort of murder mystery conspiracy theory. The government did not even want to carry one out, and did not do so until 2004. The royal coroner has just quit
An inquiry headed by John Stevens, the former head of the Metropolitan Police, into the circumstances surrounding Diana's death was expected to deliver a report to Burgess next month. This massive investigation was not even called for until 2004
So the inquest, the largest in recent history spanning continents and agencies, is 2 years old.
Sean-mcr wrote:
Six years, huh. It's actually 11 month http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3749801.stm 11 month. Plus in work or out of work everybody in this country, man woman and child no matter their class colour or greed is entitled to & will receive treatment no matter the condition. Now correct me if i'm wrong but i know i'm not. That's not the same for the states. Some people just can't afford it or are bankrupt by it.
Lol. 11 months is still a ludicrous amount of time for somebody to wait in agony for treatment. I remember when I lived in Britain when I was small I needed my adenoids removed. The NHS waiting list was 6 months by which time the problem would have spread irreversably. My parents scraped together the money and went private. It was done the following week. There are many cases of people getting other worse ailments caused by their existing ailments while they wait many months for treatment. Of course, NHS waiting lists always miraculously shorten just before an election!
In the country you now reside in, it can be the case that a six people jury is sworn in if it's warranted, a death in such a matter has to be looked in to, it's a serious matter, a week is a joke. Inquests are only held because the death was in unusual circumstances. That my friend does not take a week
Edited by Sean-mcr on Jul 26, 2006 at 01:31 PM GMT
It does not have to take longer than a week. The only reason it takes longer is due to plain inefficiency. Why else do you think the French, Germans, Italians, Americans etc get their inquests out of the way so much sooner. Forget complex media-bound cases - the normal inquests - they take less time.
Rhys wrote:
Lol. 11 months is still a ludicrous amount of time for somebody to wait in agony for treatment.
You obviously have not had the "joy" of being treated under an HMO... especially a non blue chip healthcare provider... where it can sometimes take years to get approved for some "optional" treatments... like say a colonoscopy...
I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a PPO, which saved my life. Unfortunately, most people who are insured through their work are covered under HMOs... which in the end is no better than socialized medicine, except you get to pay for it and it isn't universal, so if you lose you job, you lose your healthcare - particularly if you have a pre-existing condition.
Rhys wrote:
Lol. 11 months is still a ludicrous amount of time for somebody to wait in agony for treatment. I remember when I lived in Britain when I was small I needed my adenoids removed. The NHS waiting list was 6 months by which time the problem would have spread irreversibly. My parents scraped together the money and went private. It was done the following week. There are many cases of people getting other worse ailments caused by their existing ailments while they wait many months for treatment. Of course, NHS waiting lists always miraculously shorten just before an election!
It does not have to take longer than a week. The only reason it takes longer is due to plain inefficiency. Why else do you think the French, Germans, Italians, Americans etc get their inquests out of the way so much sooner. Forget complex media-bound cases - the normal inquests - they take less time....Show more →
So from six years to 11 months, you're just a tad out there. So i can't really take your figures seriously, as they appear to be of the top of your head. I think you'll find that the principle and work of the NHS is loved by the vast majority of those people that have been under its care. As for your
adenoids, well having them removed is a minor procedure and in no way a serious medical condition. So frankly, it does not warrant urgent medical attention
It is all very well to go private, that's not the reality for most people. Which is why the NHS was created for treatment for all, regardless of their ability to pay
You obviously have an in depth knowledge of the procedure of inquests world wide, so maybe you'd like to share that with us.
By the way, this was about Carlos bob Clark not a hip replacement
The waiting figures vary tremendously from area to area and from year to year. The last I remember was 6 years. My aunty had to wait 3 years for her dual hip replacement operations and 2 years for her cateracts. That's in Britain and not that long ago. My dad had to wait 18 months for a hernia operation and they only did one despite the fact he has two. He has to wait 4 years for the second hernia operation. NHS healthcare isn't failing. It has collapsed.
Oh so it varies, i see. So that BBC said on average it was 11 months for the hole of the uk. Obviously they have neglected to take in to account your figures
About 1.2 million people with disabilities are in the 24-month Medicare waiting period and at least 400,000 have no health care coverage. Four percent of people die each year while waiting for their Medicare to begin, according to a study by the non-partisan Commonwealth Fund.
4%, i'll leave you to do the math
Now we can continue this in pm, if you wish. Or we can bring back a thread that was actually made in tribute to a great photographer on topic. Or we can talk about some more conditions that yourself and people you know have come down with over the years. I'm sure we'd all be thrilled to hear about it
