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p.1 #1 · achieving a pure white background


Hi,
I am trying to achieve a pure white background for portraits. I have white sheets but will probably use white seamless paper. The background always turn opague after I adjust the white settings on the computer.

I have one alien bee strobe and a reflector. Are these two possible to achieve the pure white background?

Any tips or directions would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Brian



Mar 15, 2006 at 08:20 PM
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p.1 #2 · achieving a pure white background


Overexpose and they will be white


Mar 15, 2006 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #3 · achieving a pure white background


i only have 1 light and a reflector. wouldnt overexposing that one light make the subject brighter?

so i guess i need to get a background light?

thanks,
brian



Mar 15, 2006 at 08:35 PM
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p.1 #4 · achieving a pure white background


I'm no expert, but I believe you would need 2 lights. I put one on the floor behind my subject and use the other with an umbrella.




Mar 15, 2006 at 09:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · achieving a pure white background


...two with softboxes or umbrellas would be better if you want to have an even lite background. Overexpose the background by up to two stops and you will be all set.


Mar 15, 2006 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #6 · achieving a pure white background


how do i get 2 alien bee lights to connect to my camera?


Mar 15, 2006 at 09:10 PM
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p.1 #7 · achieving a pure white background


You will need a background light. FIrst step is to meter the light on your subject and set your exposure properly. Then meter the light on your background and set it to 3 to 4 stops higher then the subject lighting. This should give you a perfect white background with no texture. If you make it more then 4 stops you run the risk of flare and loss of contrast on your subject.

Phil



Mar 15, 2006 at 09:13 PM
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p.1 #8 · achieving a pure white background


I couldn't figure out why I had a shadow even though I had a backlight hitting the bg...

solution: move your subject a few feet away from the bg



Mar 15, 2006 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #9 · achieving a pure white background


It is a common mistake to put the subject close to a white background and almost always results in a bad picture.

Separate the subject as much as you can from the white background. So the spill doesnt create a white "rim" effect which makes it tough to get some separation of the subject from background and also the hair is messed up. Good images against white almost always require that the edges of the subject at least on one side be dark creating some contrast.



Mar 15, 2006 at 10:29 PM
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p.1 #10 · achieving a pure white background


Well it can be done.

You will need to position a large sofbox as "backlite" background. Then use the reflector to bounce Light Back to your subject.

The Reflector will become your Key-light. That will be the only way to get overexposure background with just 1 light source & reflector.

good luck





Mar 16, 2006 at 03:58 AM
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p.1 #11 · achieving a pure white background


gecko411 wrote:
how do i get 2 alien bee lights to connect to my camera?


You only connect one light to the camera. The other units will fire using the built in optical trigger.



Mar 16, 2006 at 09:43 AM
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p.1 #12 · achieving a pure white background


fotomickey wrote:
Well it can be done.

You will need to position a large sofbox as "backlite" background. Then use the reflector to bounce Light Back to your subject.

The Reflector will become your Key-light. That will be the only way to get overexposure background with just 1 light source & reflector.

good luck



Try a mirror as the reflector.



Mar 16, 2006 at 10:18 AM
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p.1 #13 · achieving a pure white background


Gecko, you connect 1 light to your camera via sync cord, the second has a slave tripper so it fires when it sees your first light fire. no need to physically connect the second light to your camera.


Mar 16, 2006 at 10:28 AM
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p.1 #14 · achieving a pure white background


thank you all for responding

i will try that softbox as backlight and reflector as main light. but, where does the softbox go? its too big to be directly behind the subject. Does it go on the side and pointing at the background and the reflector is to the side of the camera?

thanks,
brian



Mar 16, 2006 at 12:22 PM
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p.1 #15 · achieving a pure white background


For more control I would use 2 lights with barndoors to control spill to get an even background. Placed on each side and behind the subject. Instead of barndoors you can use a screen.

You can resort to channels in Photoshop if it doesn't get white enough. Not being too good myself at getting the ratios right I have to do that a lot

http://www.pbase.com/annayu2/image/57407533.jpg



Mar 22, 2006 at 01:58 AM
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p.1 #16 · achieving a pure white background


I have limited experience myself but it is my understanding that the background only needs to be about half a stop brighter than the subject to be shown as perfectly white. Any more and you get a spill messing up the edges of the subject. Some people however seen to believe that 1-2 stops above is their preferred choice. I’ve never heard 3-4 stops over mentioned before.

A good tip is to turn off the main light and shoot a test shot with just the background lights on. The subject should be a perfect silhouette and you will see if there is any spill.

Shooting with just one light as the background and reflectors as the main light source at the front works well, although you obviously need quite a big softbox.



Mar 22, 2006 at 04:57 AM
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p.1 #17 · achieving a pure white background


This is my first try at high-key. I just got my first lights last week, and to make this tougher i have no meter yet and this is a self protrait...i felt like a frog hppin up and down

The BG is simply a white sheet with one strobe pointed at it, i have one with a SB on me right and a silver reflector on my right. The BG is about 5 or 6 feet behind me. the BG strobe is off to one side as I don'tahve a short enough stand to get it behind me and out of view.

http://images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/16648/orig/308561.jpg




Mar 22, 2006 at 10:54 AM





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