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p.1 #1 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Taken of my 5yo daughter in my dark living room. I have not edited the photo except to make a jpeg.
http://htps.smugmug.com/photos/37310481-L.jpg






2005:09:24 17:20:48
16-35mm @ 35mm
1/60 sec, f/4
Mode: Program
Metering: Evaluative
ISO: 800
AF mode: One-shot AF
Drive: Continuous: frame 1
White balance: Auto
Flash: External E-TTL + Red eye reduction
File size: 3,310KB
Image size: 3504 x 2336
Saturation: High
Sharpness: High2
Contrast: High
Picture Effect: Normal
Tone: Normal
Custom Functions:
CFn 2: Long exposure noise reduction: On
CFn 5: AF-assist beam/Flash firing: Only ext. flash emits/Fires
CFn 8: ISO expansion: On
CFn 11: Menu button display position: Previous
CFn 13: AF point selection: Multi-controller direct



Sep 24, 2005 at 04:25 PM
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p.1 #2 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Is it better than the LS II?


Sep 24, 2005 at 05:10 PM
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p.1 #3 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


looks underexposed on my calibrated monitor


Sep 24, 2005 at 07:12 PM
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p.1 #4 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


_Kerpal_ wrote:
looks underexposed on my calibrated monitor


Underexposed or under-contrast?



Sep 24, 2005 at 10:11 PM
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p.1 #5 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


For a dark room shot, it's good - but it does needs a little boosting still. Still good! I used my LS2 yesterday at a wedding and it was good enough for me


Sep 25, 2005 at 07:17 AM
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p.1 #6 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Is this designed to be used so close? The light is uneven on her face. The forehead is much brighter than the chin. I don't know how you shoot, but this is far from real world situation for me.

I have given up on gadgety flash modifiers.

Joel



Sep 25, 2005 at 08:30 AM
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p.1 #7 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


It is good to give up on gadgety flash modifiers. A little light shaping can be a good thing though. It is amazing what acouple of 580's with an umbrella and a light stand of some sort can do.


Sep 25, 2005 at 03:56 PM
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p.1 #8 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


wphodog wrote:
Is this designed to be used so close? The light is uneven on her face. The forehead is much brighter than the chin. I don't know how you shoot, but this is far from real world situation for me.

I have given up on gadgety flash modifiers.

Joel


Yes, the light's a little uneven but not nearly as uneven as a bounce from the ceiling would be.

My question is, what do you consider a "gadgety flash modifier" and what isn't?

This is MUCH better than straight on-camera flash would have been, much better than bounce would have been. For on-camera flash, I think it's pretty darned good.

And she's a doll!



Sep 25, 2005 at 05:21 PM
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p.1 #9 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


I know, my use in the photo above is not a real use setup. However I believe that the Photojournalist will have better results then the orignal LS.




Sep 25, 2005 at 10:21 PM
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p.1 #10 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


btw, anyone want to buy my lightsphere II, the model before the pj...it fits the nikon flash...email me

thanks



Sep 26, 2005 at 07:21 AM
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p.1 #11 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


I noticed you had a very high ISO (800) and a very short lens (35mm setting), so you must have really been up close to the subject to get such a clear shot. I would have liked to seen what that same gadget does when shots are taken from a distance, which is usually where we shoot when doing a wedding. We don't often get that close to the brides face. I would like to see a sample, before I even consider buying one.

I've never purchased one. I think if it deserves to be done well, then bring out the umbrellas or the lighboxes. Or have several flashes set up to have the studio effect.



Sep 26, 2005 at 08:51 AM
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p.1 #12 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


emandavi wrote:
I think if it deserves to be done well, then bring out the umbrellas or the lighboxes. Or have several flashes set up to have the studio effect.


True for formals, but for PJ shots, nobody wants to wait. (At least that has been my limited experience.) I have the LSII and it certainly beats a bare flash in those PJ shots.

Jeff



Sep 26, 2005 at 08:58 AM
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p.1 #13 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


emandavi wrote:
I noticed you had a very high ISO (800) and a very short lens (35mm setting), so you must have really been up close to the subject to get such a clear shot. I would have liked to seen what that same gadget does when shots are taken from a distance, which is usually where we shoot when doing a wedding. We don't often get that close to the brides face. I would like to see a sample, before I even consider buying one.

I've never purchased one. I think if it deserves to be done well, then bring out the
...Show more

Well it seems from your post you are not aware that I am a current wedding photographer and have been for 9 years.

I have been using Gary Fongs first model LS for several months, and now I upgraded to Gary Fongs new model. You wrote that you do not currently own the first model. I question that with all the people who raved about it here in the threads (with photos to prove its excellent results). Why you did not buy one?

So that leads me to this question, why would you even consider the new model if you did not buy the first model that everyones been using for months.



Sep 27, 2005 at 02:11 AM
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p.1 #14 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


I'm with wphodog on this one....I have been suckerd for every Flash modifier known to man...If I just balance to daylight / ambient...or at least comes close I can save myself the bother!


Oct 03, 2005 at 12:10 PM
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p.1 #15 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


I shoot with the lightsphere II outside with the dome on and it works great. I love it.


Oct 04, 2005 at 12:16 AM
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p.1 #16 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Hmmm.. the LS is worth it IMHO.. just damn bulky and attracts too much attention..


Oct 04, 2005 at 12:32 AM
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p.1 #17 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


This is the NEW model, its smaller, and does not look at bulky.


Oct 04, 2005 at 12:42 AM
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p.1 #18 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


hitech,

I think what would be better is to give us a baseline. We don't really know what to compare your current picture with..... Your shot could be great - but it could also use some improvement - relative to what you have been getting in the past. How about shots without the lightsphere? Like: 1) straight-on with the same flash, 2) bounce off ceiling,...etc..etc and of course the shot you have with the lightsphere. That will give you a better way to compare..?



Oct 04, 2005 at 12:45 AM
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p.1 #19 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Judging from your picture, and the thousands I've taken with my LS2, the LS2 creates much more even lighting from the bulb itself. I take it you were shooting with a low cieling, which is what the cap on the LS2 was built for. Your photo is far too top heavy, and the cap on the LS2 would cut down on this and make the image much more balanced. Maybe if you had a higher/no cieling your results would be better.


Oct 04, 2005 at 01:09 AM
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p.1 #20 · Gary Fongs Photojournalist


Underexposed or under-contrast?

Both. In the lab we use the term FLAT, round-a-round lighting does that, theres more modeling in her hair than anywhere else.

Think! We basically see light from one direction, high, the SUN. With that said: If you see light from below you have a problem, you are upside down in your coffin. In portraiture, you create a main and a fill in ratio. Basic shooting 101. With the gizmo you create BLAH, no ratio, all is even, it's blah!

I'm not sold on the grenade, even the photos Gary put in th Rangefinder look flat. I've seen better stuff with a thin piece of silk over the flashhead. I also agree with whoever said two flashes, softboxes and 2:-3: to one ratio was right. (emandavi, I think)

Got to go with the flo...nivana has not been achieved yet..the magic bullet is still in the gun, a basic bounce is just as good and calibrating modeling light to ambiant is the desired effect. So flame on, I have seen lots of the shots taken with it and you just can't do surgical work with a hand grenade.

Really whether it's a free bouncecard or a $39.95 modified light bulb cover, good lighting is still a technique as well as a gadget. "Nichon" Hale once said give me softboxes or give me (forget death) a bottle of Jack Daniels!

He drank the Daniels and was found upside down in his coffin.. eyes open like staring at a light....



Oct 04, 2005 at 07:25 AM
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