More I think about it, more I like this lens. For a light travel combo,
I'd prefer 24-105 f4L IS + 200 f2.8L than 24-70 f2.8L + 70-200 f4L.
More "everyday" range would be covered just by one lens and would
have a light f2.8 tele option if needed (add a 1.4x teleconverter and have
a great combo).
snowboarder wrote:
More I think about it, more I like this lens. For a light travel combo,
I'd prefer 24-105 f4L IS + 200 f2.8L than 24-70 f2.8L + 70-200 f4L.
More "everyday" range would be covered just by one lens and would
have a light f2.8 tele option if needed (add a 1.4x teleconverter and have
a great combo).
p5freak wrote:
CPS Website is now 10 hours down. I wonder whats going on there ? It surely doesnt take that long to delete that page.
It can take that long or longer to recover from hackery.
Can you tell us a bit more about yourself, please, p5freak? How did you come to be a registered member of FM forums for 23 months and not have posted more than 2 articles until today? How did you find that page? Was there a link from the main page to that page?
Your website locks out users: http://p5freak.de has a message saying "BAUSTELLE BETRETEN VERBOTTEN". What's that all about? Are you legitimate? Users here have expressed skepticism about the page and your role in its appearance in this and other forums. Can you be more forthcoming and give us some more confidence in the reality or otherwise of this episode?
Monito wrote:
It can take that long or longer to recover from hackery.
Can you tell us a bit more about yourself, please, p5freak? How did you come to be a registered member of FM forums for 23 months and not have posted more than 2 articles until today? How did you find that page? Was there a link from the main page to that page?
Your website locks out users: http://p5freak.de has a message saying "BAUSTELLE BETRETEN VERBOTTEN". What's that all about? Are you legitimate? Users here have expressed skepticism about the page and your role in its appearance in this and other forums. Can you be more forthcoming and give us some more confidence in the reality or otherwise of this episode?...Show more →
Read this; there were more then just one person who saw the page.
i signed up here because i posted something in the past, dont remember what it was. I usually hang around in the forum of digitalkamera.de (i'm a moderator there), and on dpreview.com (Canon lens talk). Two forums are enough for me. The sign on my webpage simply means "under construction, entering forbidden". I'm about to make a new homepage.
Actually i didnt find that CPS page. It was posted in the forum of digitalkamera.de, by the user Yehuda. Link here, post #21387 : http://forum.digitalkamera.de/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=21304&mesg_id=21304&page= I did a screenshot because i knew the page would be removed shortly, that happened earlier with Canon, and probably will in the future. Makes one wonder if those are intentional leaks. Anyway, the page was up for about 20mins. after Yehuda posted it, then the whole cps website went down (he posted it 12:18 german time, and my reply that its down was 12:43). I tried to save the html page, but it was already gone.
I just spread the information here and on dpreview.com.
Thanks p5freak for putting things in perspective! That's very interesting about how it was found and that multiple people saw it. Now I wonder how Yehuda found it Well, the mystery deepens, but it does appear to be extra evidence on the side of the 5D.
Can anyone contact the people the page mentions as interviews? Some confirmation that way would be interesting. On the other hand, I suppose I can just be patient and wait until next week
I put together all the stuff which I took with me and I finally answered all the interview questions I got from Canon CPS.
CPS is the Canon Professional Service. They invited me to do an interview with me about this photoblog and my experiences in New York for the Canon CPS site. A great chance to get some exposure for me! I'll let you know as soon as it is published.
I put together all the stuff which I took with me and I finally answered all the interview questions I got from Canon CPS.
CPS is the Canon Professional Service. They invited me to do an interview with me about this photoblog and my experiences in New York for the Canon CPS site. A great chance to get some exposure for me! I'll let you know as soon as it is published.
Thanks! That seems some confirmation! For the hackery hypothesis to continue, then we have to suppose that somebody found out that Fuchs and some other people were going to appear, whipped up blurbs on them to go along with some created images of the cameras and lenses, and then hacked the site to let multiple people see the page. That's a lot of effort and would take several people's skill to create the page and images and also hack the site. It's beginning to be simpler to give the benefit of the doubt to the 5D. I won't be convinced until I see an official Canon announcement, but the evidence does seem to be piling up in favor of the 5D.
To take away the last (? ;) question, here's how the CPS thing started. I've been reading speculations about the new model(s) for some time and went to the CPS site to look for some new information.
There I noticed that the URLs for the different issues were built up the same way (since it's database driven) and only changed "issueId" in the end.
I think issue no 12 had issueId=100140, issue no 13 had issueId=100160 ... hmm ... what could the next issueId for no 14 be I asked myself.
So there it was, I couldn't believe my eyes. Issue 14 with what seemed to be a temporary starting image, but with new contents below. I tried to follow the links but with no luck. Everything was pointing to nowhere (as often while in development).
So I posted the link at dpreview in the News-forum:
Apparently a german poster saw the message and posted it locally some 5 minutes later, which p5freak saw and posted in other forums on dpreview, soon followed by a screen dump, and the discussion took off.
Within 40 minutes from my original posting the CPS page was down, later the whole site.
Was it a mistake or a new marketing "praxis" - I don't know. But I stay anonymous since this actually feels like a mistake from Canons side and my intention wasn't to cause any damage. For a planned marketing event I wouldn't think they would have the site shut down this long - the point is already made (if so). It's of course possible some other people started to hack the site looking for more spec:s. And it's also possible Canon actually didn't know that this page was published and shut down the whole site just to control no other information is unintentionally published before going live again.
And here we are.
And off I go.
And I won't post anything more under this name. Cheers!
To take away the last (? question, here's how the CPS thing started. I've been reading speculations about the new model(s) for some time and went to the CPS site to look for some new information.
There I noticed that the URLs for the different issues were built up the same way (since it's database driven) and only changed "issueId" in the end.
I think issue no 12 had issueId=100140, issue no 13 had issueId=100160 ... hmm ... what could the next issueId for no 14 be I asked myself.
So there it was, I couldn't believe my eyes. Issue 14 with what seemed to be a temporary starting image, but with new contents below. I tried to follow the links but with no luck. Everything was pointing to nowhere (as often while in development).
So I posted the link at dpreview in the News-forum:
Apparently a german poster saw the message and posted it locally some 5 minutes later, which p5freak saw and posted in other forums on dpreview, soon followed by a screen dump, and the discussion took off.
Within 40 minutes from my original posting the CPS page was down, later the whole site.
Was it a mistake or a new marketing "praxis" - I don't know. But I stay anonymous since this actually feels like a mistake from Canons side and my intention wasn't to cause any damage. For a planned marketing event I wouldn't think they would have the site shut down this long - the point is already made (if so). It's of course possible some other people started to hack the site looking for more spec:s. And it's also possible Canon actually didn't know that this page was published and shut down the whole site just to control no other information is unintentionally published before going live again.
And here we are.
And off I go.
And I won't post anything more under this name. Cheers!...Show more →
I wouldn't worry about Canon's suffering for their 'accidental' leaks - almost exactly the same thing happened with the release of the 1DII, down to the leak on something 'accidentally' posted on their sites.
Notice how there was just enough on there to give some cred to the rumours, without giving out the full specs?
Make no mistake, this is how Canon do their releases.
They waited just long enough for someone to crack it, then pulled it.
In fact, I did wonder if you worked for Canon!
Regards,
DaveMart
I am a little surprised by all the excitement here....I would have thought that most peopled (within the pro/wedding context) owned the 17-40 (or 16-35), 24-70, and 70-200IS. In my case, I have the 17-40, 70-200 and a number of fast primes. I can understand something in the consumer range such as a 17-85IS, but not sure of what is so exciting about an f4 zoom, particularly when a fantastic 24-70 f2.8 soom is already available?