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Tom,

Most of the image area is taken up with fairly neutral colors and white or slightly off-white colors.

Try it with a scene that fills most of the screen with a non-neutral color.



Jul 20, 2005 at 06:37 PM
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AJ Nadershahi wrote:
Tom,

Most of the image area is taken up with fairly neutral colors and white or slightly off-white colors.

Try it with a scene that fills most of the screen with a non-neutral color.


I guess i need to post the red shirts i took at the same time .



Jul 20, 2005 at 06:41 PM
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p.2 #3 · Hickspodisc


Nice bathroom
I'm willing to try anything once, and judge for myself. Where would I find the 3M product? Paint,welding supplies.



Jul 20, 2005 at 06:48 PM
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Red shirt , sorry but i wasn't going to Iron it for you.

Auto WB



Jul 20, 2005 at 06:50 PM
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p.2 #5 · Hickspodisc


White side of card


Jul 20, 2005 at 06:51 PM
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Hickspodisc


Jul 20, 2005 at 06:52 PM
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I have blues shirts as well. _poke_


Jul 20, 2005 at 06:53 PM
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The lighting isn't that great in the red shirt images, but from my screen the expodisc/hicksdisc image does show a red tint. (You can definately see the bias with the wall that I'm assuming is supposed to be white.)

Now image what that would do to skin tone if someone was wearing that shirt, or worse still a blue shirt.

Thanks for preparing the images Tom.



Jul 20, 2005 at 07:00 PM
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p.2 #9 · Hickspodisc


Tom Hicks wrote:
I have blues shirts as well. _poke_


Time to put them to use!



Jul 20, 2005 at 07:01 PM
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lilricky wrote:
Nice bathroom
I'm willing to try anything once, and judge for myself. Where would I find the 3M product? Paint,welding supplies.


I think Tom had suggested Sherwin Williams paint stores, but if you Google 3M N95 particulate filter you should find some sources, including Staples:

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/SKU.asp?BCFlag=False&PageType=1&SKU=MMM5N11

You want this pre-filter, not the surgical mask style respirator which also comes up on Google.

Mark



Jul 20, 2005 at 07:11 PM
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AJ Nadershahi wrote:
The lighting isn't that great in the red shirt images, but from my screen the expodisc/hicksdisc image does show a red tint. (You can definately see the bias with the wall that I'm assuming is supposed to be white.)

Now image what that would do to skin tone if someone was wearing that shirt, or worse still a blue shirt.

Thanks for preparing the images Tom.


the wall is actuall a fleshy pink color.



Jul 20, 2005 at 07:19 PM
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p.2 #12 · Hickspodisc


AJ , if you look really close in this image you will see the true colors of everything in the room , the red shirt was hung from the white door to the left of the image . I see no bias towards red in this image . the only bias i see might be AJ . I never said this was a better way just an alternitive to carrying a big card in your pack or pocket ,that if dropped it the water ,or mud ,or coke is spilled on it it can be washed off and not get affected and it will fit in the pocket of your red shirt. All I have done is found something that works , and presented it to ya'll for info for you to use , how you see fit.


Jul 20, 2005 at 07:33 PM
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p.2 #13 · Hickspodisc


sorry for my ignorance

but when i shoot RAW it basicly ignores whatever white balance is set
and i have to manually adjust

how will this help me then. ?



Jul 20, 2005 at 08:13 PM
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p.2 #14 · Hickspodisc


OK,
A little clarification. Do I shoot a frame with the disk on, then use that frame to set Custom WB
in the camera or when I convert the raw image.(using the eyedropper thing in ACR). My normal workflow is to include a grey card in a shot, then when I convert the raw image I just click on the grey card and use that for the WB of all of the subsequent shots. Maybe thats wrong, but it seems to work for me.
Thanks



Jul 20, 2005 at 10:01 PM
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Hi , Rick if that's working for you then you may not want to change . I just try to get it as correct in cam as I can . yes shoot an image then use that image to set WB . I use this method for when I.m shooting at zoos and stuff when I'm doing my snake and reptile shots , you always have different lights in each . some may have 3 to 4 different lights in each cage . this tool will give you a balance of all the light so you don't have green, red blue or yellow cast to the shots , if you are going to use a flash , be sure and have it fire when doing the wb shot or you will be off. it also kind of hard to set wb with a card or any type of flat wb tool when your subject is behind glass and the light doesn't hit the card , with the tool you can put it over the lens then point it directly
at the light source take your shot and wala, you have a near perfect exposure.



Jul 20, 2005 at 10:24 PM
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p.2 #16 · Hickspodisc


Tom,

Thanks for posting a pic! What is the material with the diamond shape? It looks kind of like the diffusing material used on fluroescent lighting. Is that what it is?

Thanks again!
Robert



Jul 20, 2005 at 10:46 PM
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DigitalBob wrote:
Tom,

Thanks for posting a pic! What is the material with the diamond shape? It looks kind of like the diffusing material used on fluroescent lighting. Is that what it is?

Thanks again!
Robert


Yes, from home depot



Jul 20, 2005 at 10:48 PM
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p.2 #18 · Hickspodisc


Thanks,
Makes sense to me. I'll give it a try.



Jul 20, 2005 at 11:09 PM
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p.2 #19 · Hickspodisc


Thanks again Tom!

I made a version similar but used 2 layers of coffee filters and the same diffusion material from the fluorescent lighting.

I sandwiched the coffee filters between the plastic diffusion material and a UV filter. A 72-77mm step up ring screws into the UV filter to hold it all together.

I will have to try it against a gray card to see how it compares.



Jul 21, 2005 at 01:34 PM
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p.2 #20 · Hickspodisc


So if I'm right,
This is made up of 2 glass filters, 1 piece of the 3m product and 1 piece of the Home depot diffusion product sandwiched between the glass filters?



Jul 22, 2005 at 09:18 AM
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