I just wanna know how often you upgrade your DSLR, Is it better to upgrade everytime theres a new model so that I can still sell my 20D at a little high price? let say the 30D arrives then I wait another year for 40D. I will lost more money on my 20D?
Barring some sort of technological advance that truly renders your DSLR obsolete, you never *need* to upgrade your DSLR. You may want to, but you don't need to. I still own my Canon 1D which is a 4MP dinosaur...... I have no need to upgrade it. DSLR's are computers with lens mounts..... they are far from an investment. Don't think of them like that. If the camera still does what you need 5 years from now, then you have no need to upgrade. If you're thinking more about the value of your equipment than photography, chances are you're not into this for photography, but rather the camera is just another techno gadget. That's just fine, but keep in mind that any of today's DSLR's are very capible, and the advances in technology from model to model are very small.
There is no real reason for upgrading cameras all the time, I think its just becuse most ppl want to keep up with the latest and greatest thing on the market! If your camera does what you need it to do then why do you need to upgrade?
Typically its the "pixel peeper" type who wants the biggest pixel settings even though they would only print out 4x6 prints or upload pics to the net (or email). Then when there computers slow right down they complain!
If your happy with your camera then keep it, If you really need to upgrade then go for it, The decission is totally up to you and only you!
If shutter life is your only concern, then I would say "never": just replace it when it breaks, it is still less expensive than a new camera.
If you just want to be bleeding edge, then whenever a new camera is released.
Otherwise, if you believe your camera is ok when you buy it, then I do not see why it would not be up to the job anymore when a new model is released. Some people here still use D30 or 1D with great results.
Chances are you won't wear out the 20D's shutter. There are still a lot of D30's out there that are doing just fine without any shutter problems. They may have a rating for a certain number of actuations, but they're pretty bullet proof in the long run.
DigicIII wrote:
ok thanks but how about the shutter life? how much do you think the shutter replacement for 20D?
On a 20D you could shoot the equivalent of 10 rolls of 35mm film per week on average for over 5 years before the shutter dies. At this point you can choose to replace it for a couple of hundred $ or upgrade to a newer model.
My feeling is that I wouldn't upgrade unless the camera no longer serves it's purpose or dies. My daughter still uses my 23 year old Pentax ME Super. It still works great.
Always remaining on "the cutting edge" is fine, but rather expensive.
actually think of the shutter systems on older canon film bodies like the A1 and EOS in the hands of working pros. these are the same shutter types used on the digitals. previous to people picking up on canon statements as 150000 or 200000 actuations tested there was no real issue. and ther are more then a few out there that have exceeded those numbers.
i have heard such "legends" as:
canon warrantees the shutter for xxxxxx amount of actuations. FALSE i have seen that statement referenced more then once on this site.
there is a simple full coverage for 1 year per their standard warranty
too many people make it up as thay go along. too many corporate execs around it seems.
they tested shutters to a statistical average and they simply say it has been tested to x amount with no warranty implied. your actuations may vary due to use and environment and other factors. it will go bad when it damned well feel likes. no sooner no later as of course as it gets closer to that stastical point your playing the odds game.
EOS20 wrote:
Typically its the "pixel peeper" type who wants the biggest pixel settings even though they would only print out 4x6 prints or upload pics to the net (or email). Then when there computers slow right down they complain!
Typically?
$20 says you're dead wrong!
Sure, there will be some like that. But they're hardly "typical" of those who get the latest and greatest DSLRs.
DigicIII wrote:
I just wanna know how often you upgrade your DSLR, Is it better to upgrade everytime theres a new model so that I can still sell my 20D at a little high price? let say the 30D arrives then I wait another year for 40D. I will lost more money on my 20D?
When you really understand that you have a need to upgrade, as opposed to a "want", you will know when to upgrade. In the meantime, make more photos and don't pay much attention to marketing hype trying to make you spend your hard-earned money.
You will only have lost money if you don't use the camera you have. The median 20D (at least half of the 20Ds) should be good for substantially more than 100,000 shutter actuations. If you think you might want to or need to upgrade in two years time, then that should be your shooting goal. At that rate, it would be about 140 pictures every single day. If you can make that many photos and think about each one before during and after making it and reviewing it, then you will truly be ready for an upgrade and quite possibly sooner than two years.
Sure, there will be some like that. But they're hardly "typical" of those who get the latest and greatest DSLRs.
Look more closely at what he actually said. If a person gets an upgrade to the most pixels AND he will never use the resolution, then such a person as THAT is typically a "pixel peeper."
Remember, you don't EVER have to get rid of your old DSLR, or upgrade.
I have a 20D, and I know for sure I'll be buying the 1Ds2 or 3, whenever that comes out. But just because I have a 16-22mp ultimate DSLR, doesn't mean my 20D doesn't work. Even though the 20D can be considered obsolete by that time, it still works, and it still takes high resolution images. In other words, your old camera becomes a BACKUP. Never rely on one camera.
Some people have a 1Ds2 and a D30. There's a huge gap between those two cameras, but you never know what might happen if one camera quits working for some odd reason. Depending on what your resolution requirements are, your "obsolete" camera may save your butt someday.
RDKirk wrote:
Look more closely at what he actually said. If a person gets an upgrade to the most pixels AND he will never use the resolution, then such a person as THAT is typically a "pixel peeper."
I read what he said: "Typically its the "pixel peeper" type who wants the biggest pixel settings even though they would only print out 4x6 prints or upload pics to the net (or email). "
Diagram the sentence, then come back and tell me what it says.
Who is it that wants the "biggest pixel settings"? Why, typically it's the pixel peeper. And they want that, even though they would only print out 4x6 prints or upload pics to the net or email.
THAT is what he said.
If he meant to say what you allege, then he needs to work on his English.
DigicIII wrote:
I just wanna know how often you upgrade your DSLR, Is it better to upgrade everytime theres a new model so that I can still sell my 20D at a little high price? let say the 30D arrives then I wait another year for 40D. I will lost more money on my 20D?
Never upgrade anything unless the upgrade solves a real problem you either currently have or can foresee soon having. That goes for computers, software, automobiles, anything disposable--anything that does not inherently appreciate in value. That's the way to "lose" the least amount of money. Trading in while there is still use left in a disposable product is always a loss.
Sometimes we buy things that don't even solve all the problems we currently have--that was the problem with the D30, D60, and for many people even the 10D. The image quality wasn't good enough for an A3 (or 11x14) print to equal 35mm and the cameras were slow in operation. They were okay, but they didn't solve the current problems of most 35mm shooters moving to DSLRs. The problem was that those cameras weren't good enough for many people in the first place, so upgrading was logical.
The current crop of Canon cameras solves those problems. From the 350XT to the 1Ds Mk II, we now have cameras that equal or surpass 35mm in quality up to A3 across the board (and the 1Ds Mk II totally surpasses 35mm quality, period). We have cameras that at least equal 35mm in handling speed across the board. So, basically if 35mm solved anyone's problems, the current lineup of Canon DSLRs will solve the same problems.
No need to upgrade, until the technology becomes too obsolete to maintain (say, 3 years after the last BP511 battery has been manufactured).
