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p.1 #1 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


I was just browsing KEH, and the 1D in E+ condition are 2,029.... They were under 1800 last week... All the other forums I frequent, I have also noticed a ton of people upgrading from 20Ds to the 1D...

We have started a revolution...

Edited by infosecgeek on Mar 25, 2005 at 08:11 AM GMT



Mar 25, 2005 at 03:05 AM
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p.1 #2 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Glad I nailed one two months ago....




Mar 25, 2005 at 03:10 AM
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p.1 #3 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Glad I got mine w. low shutter count for $1290


Mar 25, 2005 at 04:41 AM
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p.1 #4 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Glad I never even considered getting rid of mine


Mar 25, 2005 at 07:50 AM
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p.1 #5 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


I have seen alot of 1Ds mk I's for sale over the past few weeks selling at prices near and even less than a new 20D!

There is one on ebay Australia with 9 hours to go selling for under $3000 AU, The "Buy now price was $3000 AU too!

I dont see the point in selling such a good and expensive camera for such low prices just to upgrade to the newest model!

Now where did I put that credit card.....



Mar 25, 2005 at 08:07 AM
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p.1 #6 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


EOS20 wrote:
I have seen alot of 1Ds mk I's for sale over the past few weeks selling at prices near and even less than a new 20D!

There is one on ebay Australia with 9 hours to go selling for under $3000 AU, The "Buy now price was $3000 AU too!

I dont see the point in selling such a good and expensive camera for such low prices just to upgrade to the newest model!

Now where did I put that credit card.....


I have toyed seriously with the idea of trading my 1D for a D20! Am I crazy? I have a friend who is a pro who said she shoots with the D20 all the time and the 1D sits waiting for sporting events when it's needed...she hasn't used it since purchasing the D20!! I'm tempted, but after reading comments here, I hesitate! It's a lovely camera and I've used it lots for 2 years, but it's awfully heavy for a 5' 4" woman! I carry it everywhere and it's getting tough! Thoughts?



Mar 25, 2005 at 08:57 AM
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p.1 #7 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Beth, you would lose the bigger view finder and speed of focus plus a host of other things but I think you would enjoy the 20D more for the sake of weight. I say go for it.


Mar 25, 2005 at 09:14 AM
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p.1 #8 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


It all depends.

If you dont want to be lugging around that sump of alloy (also known as the 1D ) all day long and require a smaller/lighter camera then no your not crazy!

I can see how the 20D can be a better alternitive to the big (and heavy) 1D models but personally I would much rather have a 1Ds as there is no substitiue for a Full framed sensor.

Pitty im a poor photography student and cannot afford one yet

I would say get a 20D as a backup and take the 1D when you need the extra resolution, and use the 20D when portability is required.



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:18 AM
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p.1 #9 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


EOS20 wrote:
It all depends.

If you dont want to be lugging around that sump of alloy (also known as the 1D ) all day long and require a smaller/lighter camera then no your not crazy!

I can see how the 20D can be a better alternitive to the big (and heavy) 1D models but personally I would much rather have a 1Ds as there is no substitiue for a Full framed sensor.

Pitty im a poor photography student and cannot afford one yet

I would say get a 20D as a backup and take the 1D when you need the extra resolution, and use
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Yes, that would truly be the best compromise, but I'm not sure I can afford a 20D right now. That's why a trade made sense. I'm feeling just a bit reluctant to give up the 1D though. I've managed with the weight and feel that it's a more stable camera when it's got a large lens on WITH the weight. I'm not sure I could hold a smaller camera still as well.... Anyone else feel this way?

My husband and I collect cameras...informally....and I'm thinking the 1D would be a great addition to that collection!! I'm starting to waffle here! Looks like the trade may not come off.

Beth



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:31 AM
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p.1 #10 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


I use the Battery grip on my 20D as I feel that it makes the camera feel better in the hands. Without the grip it just feels way to small expecally when using long lenses.

It would be pointless to trade the 1D for a 20D with the grip as they are quite similar in size and weight.

BTW is it the 1D or MkII model you own?



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:37 AM
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p.1 #11 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


The 20D has the advantages of lighter weight, better high-ISO performance, and more reach with telephoto lenses. The 1D is better with wide-angle lenses and has all the various advantages already mentioned. If I were in your shoes, I'd decide whether the wide-angle or telephoto range was more important, and choose based on that.


Mar 25, 2005 at 09:39 AM
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p.1 #12 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


EOS20 wrote:
I use the Battery grip on my 20D as I feel that it makes the camera feel better in the hands. Without the grip it just feels way to small expecally when using long lenses.

It would be pointless to trade the 1D for a 20D with the grip as they are quite similar in size and weight.

BTW is it the 1D or MkII model you own?


I own the original 1D MKI. Bought it a couple of years ago and have put 20,000 to 30,000 shutter actuations on it.



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #13 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


moondigger wrote:
The 20D has the advantages of lighter weight, better high-ISO performance, and more reach with telephoto lenses. The 1D is better with wide-angle lenses and has all the various advantages already mentioned. If I were in your shoes, I'd decide whether the wide-angle or telephoto range was more important, and choose based on that.


I very seldom shoot wide..in fact, recently shot bald eagles in flight w/ the 100-400 and was disappointed that there wasn't enough detail to make the shots usable w/ the 1D. I live in Maine and do lots of landscape, seascape, nature stuff.

How about AI Servo on the 20D? Is it as good as the 1D? That comes in handy for birds!!

Beth



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #14 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


infosecgeek wrote:
I was just browsing KEH, and the 1D in E+ condition are 2,029.... They were under 1800 last week... All the other forums I frequent, I have also noticed a ton of people upgrading from 20Ds to the 1D...

We have started a revolution...

Edited by infosecgeek on Mar 25, 2005 at 08:11 AM GMT


I like to keep an eye on used 1D availability and pricing and as I posted a week or so ago on a different thread it appeared to me that the supply on Ebay and FM seems to have dried up of late. Whether that's just a short term anomoly remains to be seen. The supply seems to go up for a few months after introduction of a new body, first with the 1DmkII and then with the 20D. Until a new body is introduced the higher prices and low supply may continue.



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:55 AM
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p.1 #15 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Uh Ok,

Then mayby the 20D might be worth the upgrade as you will double your resolution.

However as moondigger said you will get more of a teliphoto effect with the 20D as it is a 1.6x crop vs the 1D's 1.3 crop.



Mar 25, 2005 at 09:55 AM
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p.1 #16 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


cokids wrote:
How about AI Servo on the 20D? Is it as good as the 1D? That comes in handy for birds!!


I have been pleased with the performance of AI Servo on my 20D, but have not compared it with a 1D. I suspect AI Servo on a 1D would be better.



Mar 25, 2005 at 10:19 AM
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p.1 #17 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


My main reason for switching was AI-Servo performing poorly. I honestly think my 10D was better then the 20 in that regards... I love the 1D and will never look back...

I printed a 12x18 last night which is one of the things I was worried about.

cokids wrote:
How about AI Servo on the 20D? Is it as good as the 1D? That comes in handy for birds!!

Beth




Mar 25, 2005 at 11:15 AM
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p.1 #18 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


Do you know how much grief this is causing me?
I should have grabbed it when it was at the $1.3-1.4k mark....



Mar 25, 2005 at 12:31 PM
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p.1 #19 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


I paid 1900 don't feel so bad..


Mar 25, 2005 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #20 · We drove the prices up on the 1D


EOS20 wrote:
Then mayby the 20D might be worth the upgrade as you will double your resolution.


Well... not double the resolution. For the 1D resolution to be doubled, the number is 16 Mp. That's because there's a horizontal and vertical component involved.

Do a simple math. For simplicity say the sensor of the 1D is 2000 by 2000 pixels. To double the resolution, you have to double the numbers both horizontally AND vertically. So that would mean 4000 by 4000, giving 16 Mp.

Conclusion: the 1Ds mark II has double the resolution of the 1D mark 1



Mar 25, 2005 at 12:57 PM
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