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I shot this creature at ground level zooming on its "face" with the intention to create a (more) intriguing and mysterious (spooky?) photo since I didn't have much room to play with the light. I thought the OOF blades of grass is helping in this case (except the one close to the eye). What do you think? Does it work?

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Oct 23, 2026 at 05:57 PM
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You crossed a line when you made it several different shades of purple!
Oct 24, 2026 at 11:40 AM
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It took me a bit to figure out what this creature actually was, so I would say yes, it worked. I like that it's a close-up and the grass adds to the sneaky factor.
Oct 24, 2026 at 09:07 PM
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Malka_1 wrote:
It took me a bit to figure out what this creature actually was, so I would say yes, it worked. I like that it's a close-up and the grass adds to the sneaky factor.



It took me a bit to figure out what this creature actually was That was part of the mystery

Thanks for the feedback. I was surprised to see a softshell turtle out of the water on the grass. First time ever. Florida soft shell turtles are entirely aquatic and only emerge from the water to lay eggs. There must have been something wrong with this turtle.

No way could I have gotten so close. Healthy softshell turtles are incredibly fast, and evasive. I also noticed a few ants biting the turtle’s neck.I am afraid it must have been sick.

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Oct 25, 2026 at 10:22 AM
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grandmas wrote:
You crossed a line when you made it several different shades of purple!



I am not sure what you mean by “you crossing a line”. I am thinking you are referring to pushing color saturation, or color shift.

As you may know, colors carry creative applications in photography. In particular the color purple ”symbolizes Mystery and Magic and evokes a sense of fantasy, otherworldliness and the surreal”. And that would perfectly fit the intent of my photo.

Anyway, since you seem to be always concerned about the “right” colors, I extracted the color in a few areas of the turtle skin and none shows any shade of purple hue on my monitor, as you can see in the two screen shots below. The second screen shot, in particular, shows just the hues w/o Sat and Brightness values.

Maybe you can be more specific and help me understand which is the line I crossed and how that affects the intent of my photo. Thank you.

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Oct 25, 2026 at 10:27 AM
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grandmas wroteYou crossed a line when you made it several different shades of purple!
I am not sure what you mean by “you crossing a line”. I am thinking you are referring to pushing color saturation, or color shift.

As you may know, colors carry creative applications in photography. In particular the color purple ”symbolizes Mystery and Magic and evokes a sense of fantasy, otherworldliness and the surreal”. And that would perfectly fit the intent of my photo.

Anyway, since you seem to be always concerned about the “right” colors, I extracted the color in a few areas of the turtle skin and none shows any shade of purple hue on my monitor, as you
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After taking a closer look and some number checking this is what I found.


The RGB values (143, 135, 156) make a muted, grayish-purple or slate lavender color.

The RGB values (Red: 163, Green: 132, Blue: 134) create a medium, desaturated rose-gray or muted brownish-pink.

The RGB color values of Red: 205, Green: 104, and Blue: 127 correspond to a shade of pinkish-red / pale violet-red with the hexadecimal code

The RGB value (181, 104, 167) translates to the hex code #B568A7, which is a shade of purplish-pink or dusty magenta





Oct 25, 2026 at 11:59 AM
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In my first post I thought you made it purple on purpose, and I was trying to be funny, notice the laughing face.

Then you suggested there was no purple, so I am now thinking, this is a serious photo, and you do not think there is any purple in the photo.

My guess is that realistically it looked much more like this.




Oct 25, 2026 at 12:28 PM
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I see the "purple" as well. Mostly it seems to be the blue influence from the reflection of the skylight, or an overall WB influence from the open sky.

A few tweaks for comparison ... not as much warming as GMA's though.

In addition to GMA's numbers ... check the numbers in the pupil ... you'll find something like 5/6/50, indicating the presence of the blue cast / incident light influence.

Adjust to taste.






Oct 25, 2026 at 08:55 PM
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The numbers suggest that the last edit posted still has lots of purple. I didn’t mark every spot where there is purple. I have no idea what people who cannot see purples need to do for color corrections, but many cannot see purple.


The RGB values (172, 102, 119) correspond to a shade of refined rose or dusky pink-purple, which is represented in hexadecimal as #AC6677.

The combination of red 166, green 154, and blue 171 creates a muted, grayish-purple or dusty lavender color.

The RGB color with red 145, green 124, and blue 131 corresponds to the hex code #917C83, which is a muted, dusty purplish-gray or mauve shade




Oct 25, 2026 at 11:34 PM
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RustyBug wrote:
I see the "purple" as well. Mostly it seems to be the blue influence from the reflection of the skylight, or an overall WB influence from the open sky.

A few tweaks for comparison ... not as much warming as GMA's though.

In addition to GMA's numbers ... check the numbers in the pupil ... you'll find something like 5/6/50, indicating the presence of the blue cast / incident light influence.

Adjust to taste.





Thanks for taking the time to edit the image and for the clarification, Kent. That's an interesting observation, but I feel like you also got side-tracked by the “color purple” and missed the very point of my post. What I'm really looking for is some feedback on whether the storytelling and composition effectively convey the intended mood.
Setting the color palette aside, how do you feel about the overall impact and emotional tone of the image?"

What about the “getting down on the turtle level” to transform a small reptile into an imposing creature? Does the image effectively communicate mystery through the low angle and partial concealment?
Does the out-of-focus grass work? Does it create depth and force the viewer to peer through a barrier? Or does it feel distracting?

About the colors? Does the earthy, desaturated palette feel appropriate for the intent of the photo? Does it offer just enough color variation to differentiate the subject from the muted background?

Most importantly: does the intent and emotional impact of a photograph outweigh technical color accuracy?

Finally, I really doubt that GMA ever saw a Florida softshell turtle, much less one out of the water with a dry skin under a hot sun. So, how can we discuss color accuracy? And why should we? That was not the point.

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grandmas wrote:
The numbers suggest that the last edit posted still has lots of purple. I didn’t mark every spot where there is purple. I have no idea what people who cannot see purples need to do for color corrections, but many cannot see purple.

The RGB values (172, 102, 119) correspond to a shade of refined rose or dusky pink-purple, which is represented in hexadecimal as #AC6677.

The combination of red 166, green 154, and blue 171 creates a muted, grayish-purple or dusty lavender color.

The RGB color with red 145, green 124, and blue 131 corresponds to the hex code #917C83, which is
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Thanks for the clarification, GM. I appreciate your editing, your explanation, and the effort to point out the color values of the turtle skin.

It appears to me, though, that for you this photo is all about R,G,B values. You seem to be all concerned about the technical accuracy of colors, (based on I don't know what, and arguing the superiority of your preferences and your choices over somebody else), rather than focusing on how the colors, or composition supports the narrative. Which is the feedback I was looking for.

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Oct 26, 2026 at 08:11 AM
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Shasoc wrote:
grandmas wroteThe numbers suggest that the last edit posted still has lots of purple. I didn’t mark every spot where there is purple. I have no idea what people who cannot see purples need to do for color corrections, but many cannot see purple.

The RGB values (172, 102, 119) correspond to a shade of refined rose or dusky pink-purple, which is represented in hexadecimal as #AC6677.

The combination of red 166, green 154, and blue 171 creates a muted, grayish-purple or dusty lavender color.

The RGB color with red 145, green 124, and blue 131 corresponds to the hex code #917C83, which is a muted, dusty purplish-gray or mauve shade
Thanks for the clarification, GM. I appreciate your editing, your explanation, and the effort to point out the color values of the turtle skin.

It appears to me, though, that for you this photo is all about R,G,B values. You seem to be all concerned about the technical accuracy of colors, (based on I don't know what, and arguing the superiority of your preferences and your choices over somebody else), rather than focusing on how the colors, or composition supports the narrative. Which is the feedback I was looking for.

Socrate


In my first post I thought you made it purple on purpose. I was simply trying to be funny and I was then going to be done with this thread after posting. I don’t care what color you make your sea turtle. When you suggested that there was no purple in the photo, I thought you might like to know that there was purple in the photo. Others following this thread might be interested in the color as well.

What do I think of the photo in general? The sea turtle is an interesting reptile and I did enjoy seeing it. The grass, while a part of the photo, is not in my view helping the image, we get what we get when we take wild life photos.

I think that making the photo purple is not helping the subject, just makes the photo look unreal. You obviously think color is important or you wouldn’t have suggested that there is no purple in the photo.

Making photos with lots of purple is very common, many cannot see purples. Personally, I think I would like to know that my photos were purple.

I must have missed the memo, when did color "not" become an important part of a color photo?

This is a critique forum and you cannot control what people see and say. When you are pleased with a photo, post it in the correct forum.

Oct 26, 2026 at 10:27 AM
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Shasoc wrote:
RustyBug wroteI see the "purple" as well. Mostly it seems to be the blue influence from the reflection of the skylight, or an overall WB influence from the open sky.

A few tweaks for comparison ... not as much warming as GMA's though.

In addition to GMA's numbers ... check the numbers in the pupil ... you'll find something like 5/6/50, indicating the presence of the blue cast / incident light influence.

Adjust to taste.

Thanks for taking the time to edit the image and for the clarification, Kent. That's an interesting observation, but I feel like you also got side-tracked by the “color purple” and missed the very point of my post. What I'm really looking for is some feedback on whether the storytelling and composition effectively convey the intended mood.
Setting the color palette aside, how do you feel about the overall impact and emotional tone of the image?"

What about the “getting down on the turtle level” to transform a small reptile into an imposing creature? Does the image effectively communicate mystery through the
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Hey Socrate,

So, I have a natural bent toward the technical and spent several years getting a decent read on ambient lighting correction, etc.

So, for me ... the blue / purple was a quick read too. Sometimes the strong foliage hue can induce an "overcorrection" in certain areas toward that "purple" direction also. So, there's that as well.


That said, I understand your desired input is for the other aspects of the image. Imo, (just me) there wasn't anything particularly mysterious about the image. The obstruction of view from the grasses did impose a little hindrance to realizing what I was looking at, but again ... it didn't "tickle my cognitive / emotive" because of its interference. No complaint for its existence, relative to the natural environment, but no dramatic eeriness, nor mystery for me on this one. Not what you're hoping for ... but, just kinda "meh" for me on this one. Again, that's me.

As to the tonal / hue separation ... you might try and push that diff a bit more. I played with it a bit and liked it pushed a bit further than I presented (trying to stay somewhat near your OP). So, if that separation feels right to you by pushing it apart more, try it on for size. Short of "cloning out" the grasses, shifting visual cues away from it (i.e. hue, sat, contrast, etc.) a bit might help the viewer experience of drawing the eye to your alien beast.

Again, just my .02 and we've always shot straight with one another. Bottom line, if it works for you ... sweet, but it's not working any special mojo on me, not this time. I'd approach it as a nice natural, environmental shot ... rather than expecting it to be something more dramatic. Would be curious to hear Don's take on it, if he were still hanging around these days.


That said, I can understand your appreciation of the "fish out of water" specialness of finding this species in this location. That's an emotional experience of the actual capture (i.e. being there), that is likely going to be solely yours, moreover than the random viewer experience emulating it as well from an image. In other words, the backstory sounds like it is your emotional attachment to this one.


Sometimes our joy is in the image we capture / create. Other times, our joy is in the journey. This one is likely ticking your "journey" box ... vastly more than our "image" box.

Oct 26, 2026 at 06:21 PM
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Shasoc wrote
RustyBug wroteI see the "purple" as well. Mostly it seems to be the blue influence from the reflection of the skylight, or an overall WB influence from the open sky.

A few tweaks for comparison ... not as much warming as GMA's though.

In addition to GMA's numbers ... check the numbers in the pupil ... you'll find something like 5/6/50, indicating the presence of the blue cast / incident light influence.

Adjust to taste.

Thanks for taking the time to edit the image and for the clarification, Kent. That's an interesting observation, but I feel like you also got side-tracked by the “color purple” and missed the very point of my post. What I'm really looking for is some feedback on whether the storytelling and composition effectively convey the intended mood.
Setting the color palette aside, how do you feel about the overall impact and emotional tone of the image?"

What about the “getting down on the turtle level” to transform a small reptile into an imposing creature? Does the image effectively communicate mystery through the low angle and partial concealment?
Does the out-of-focus grass work? Does it create depth and force the viewer to peer through a barrier? Or does it feel distracting?

About the colors? Does the earthy, desaturated palette feel appropriate for the intent of the photo? Does it offer just enough color variation to differentiate the subject from the muted background?

Most importantly: does the intent and emotional impact of a photograph outweigh technical color accuracy?

Finally, I really doubt that GMA ever saw a Florida softshell turtle, much less one out of the water with a dry skin under a hot sun. So, how can we discuss color accuracy? And why should we? That was not the point.

Socrate
Hey Socrate,

So, I have a natural bent toward the technical and spent several years getting a decent read on ambient lighting correction, etc.

So, for me ... the blue / purple was a quick read too. Sometimes the strong foliage hue can induce an "overcorrection" in certain areas toward that "purple" direction also. So, there's that as well.

That said, I understand your desired input is for the other aspects of the image. Imo, (just me) there wasn't anything particularly mysterious about the image. The obstruction of view from the grasses did impose a little hindrance to realizing what I was looking
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Thanks for the feedback.
I made some small, localized adjustments

All good, Kent

Socrate




Oct 27, 2026 at 07:44 AM
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The idiosyncrasy in this forum is just funny. I mention that your sea turtle is purple, and you discount the fact till Rusty confirms that there is indeed purple. Now what is funny is that Rusty cannot see purple either so his correction does not get rid of any purple, but accentuates it even more.
Oct 28, 2026 at 11:44 AM
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I made some small, localized adjustments

Socrate


Fun ... and certainly more "eerie / spooky / drama".

Heck, even without the creative eyes, I think the tonality change is vastly more interesting than the "op" version. Would be curious to see it with its native eyes. Reminds me of some "EARLY Morning" creatures, from my youth and doing some night time frog (fellow amphib) giggin'.
Oct 28, 2026 at 05:12 PM
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grandmas wrote:
The idiosyncrasy in this forum is just funny. I mention that your sea turtle is purple, and you discount the fact till Rusty confirms that there is indeed purple. Now what is funny is that Rusty cannot see purple either so his correction does not get rid of any purple, but accentuates it even more.




Okay, GMA. Just for the sake of conversation. Let's all agree that the turtle’s skin is on the purple side. Fine. What exactly is your point? That purple is not the right color? Why? Because you know very well the “right color” of a Florida soft shell turtle’s dried up skin (that has been out of the water and under the Florida sun)? Better than who was there, saw the turtle and took many pictures of it under different light directions?

I have my serious doubts that you have ever seen a Florida soft shell turtle, much less out in the water, much less with dried up skin burned under the hot Florida sun.
So, how can you pretend to correct the color of something you have never seen? Did it ever go through your mind that maybe the color of a Florida soft shell turtle’s skin, dried out under the hot sun, could actually be purple? And that looks more like in the OP rather than like in your yellowish edit?

Instead, you are just assuming (based on I don’t know what) that the color must be different: My guess is that realistically it looked much more like this.
You are guessing?! Realistically?! Are you serious? Do you really expect anybody to consider that a credible/valuable critique?

I believe all you are doing is looking at pictures just with your personal colorimeter trying to find what you "guess" is a color imperfection. The fact that you are still talking about it makes me think that is becoming an obsession for you.
My suggestion would be to try stepping back from the R,G,B values of the photos and instead take in the whole scene of the image, seeing what comes to your mind regarding the mood, feeling and composition. You may even get some inspiration for your work.

Socrate



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Oct 28, 2026 at 09:09 PM
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RustyBug wrote:
Earlier quoteI made some small, localized adjustments

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Fun ... and certainly more "eerie / spooky / drama".

Heck, even without the creative eyes, I think the tonality change is vastly more interesting than the "op" version. Would be curious to see it with its native eyes. Reminds me of some "EARLY Morning" creatures, from my youth and doing some night time frog (fellow amphib) giggin'.


Here is one version with the original eyes with the added full moon in the BG. I also played with a different pose I took of this creature creating a silly/funny one

Socrate




Oct 28, 2026 at 09:34 PM
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grandmas wroteThe idiosyncrasy in this forum is just funny. I mention that your sea turtle is purple, and you discount the fact till Rusty confirms that there is indeed purple. Now what is funny is that Rusty cannot see purple either so his correction does not get rid of any purple, but accentuates it even more.
Okay, GMA. Just for the sake of conversation. Let's all agree that the turtle’s skin is on the purple side. Fine. What exactly is your point? That purple is not the right color? Why? Because you know very well the “right color” of a Florida soft shell turtle’s dried up skin (that has been out of the water and under the Florida sun)? Better than who was there, saw the turtle and took many pictures of it under different light directions?

I have my serious doubts that you have ever seen a Florida soft shell turtle, much less out in the
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Earlier quoteMy guess is that realistically it looked much more like this.


Have you actually read what I have written, I said "I don't care what color you make your turtle." When you suggested that it is not purple, that is when I decided that you and any one reading this thread might want to know what color it actually is. It is funny that only when Rusty confirmed that it is purple were you convinced. I can very easily see those odd colors, and do not need a color meter. You can make it dark blue if you want...oh wait you did!

I really do not get the desire to take a photo of a possibly parched or unhealthy animal and try to make a work of art out of it, but that is just me.

I also told you how the image worked for me, and that the grass was not helping. Read what I write, before jumping to a different conclusion.

Has it occurred to you that when we help someone it is best to give advice on what we are best at. I am thankful that I have been blessed with an ability to see.

Oct 28, 2026 at 10:55 PM
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I'll say the grass was a cool idea, and critique it not being taken far enough. If you move leaves close enough to the lens they effectively work as a filter. Moving the camera should be the right idea, and the other option is to move grass or elements from the scene for an abstract or unpredictable result. As you may be aware, this could throw off the color balance although black and white is a click away. Don't worry about perfection while experimenting just push the envelope!
Nov 02, 2026 at 09:34 AM


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