Well maybe option is to pick up an older camera that produces the colors that you like and when the conditions don't require high ISO, capturing very quick motion( although God knows the 1DMKII can do that) or any other condition that would require a more modern camera To get the best shot. I've actually been thinking about buying one because you can get them so cheap on eBay and I would appreciate any comments here as to whether he or she would agree that the colors produced by that camera model are similar to the ones produced by the OP's new old camera.
Even though I own a new RA and some nice RA glass if I had take some shots of something with very quick motion like say someone riding a galloping horse or running over a hurdle or whatever and there was enough to do it I would leave the R8 at home and take the old camera. Those older cameras or good enough for shooting the Olympics so probably they're still good enough for me now.
Dragonfire wrote:
My 1DsIII has always produced at wedding with the EF85L 1.2 and now I use it for portraits with the EF135L.
Wedding memories………my shoulders still hurt from having a 1D of some iteration over both shoulders ALL DAY LONG sporting an 85mm 1.2 on one and switching between a 24-70 or 70-200 on the other.
There is also something very special about that old EF 135mm f2. The most memorable photos of my now grown kids when they were little seem to have all come from either it or the old 85mm 1.2’s. Did a lot of outdoor portrait work as well back in the day with the 135mm f2 and it never disappointed.
Haven't used any of that gear in a long time but I'd venture to say at lower ISO's all that gear would still hold up well against today's best.
Tom RC wrote:
Haven't used any of that gear in a long time but I'd venture to say at lower ISO's all that gear would still hold up well against today's best.
ISO 200 produces as well and sometimes better than it;s successors.
We take for granted shooting at such high ISO’s today but from my failing memory I can’t recall back in those days noise being an issue or feeling the need to push ISO beyond the point that it actually was a problem for the prints, even VERY large prints we delivered to clients from those first few versions of the 1D, 1DS or 5D. Quantum Q flashes and or big heavy White Lightings (remember those??) banging off the ceiling for hours on end could always save the day or night when needed on these ISO challenged bodies.
The great thing about those old bodies is that they taught……forced us to learn to use off camera strobes to appear as if in the final image off camera strobes were never used be it for either low light events or location portrait work. A very valuable skill I’m guessing that is probably missing in many of today’s photographers, even pros.
I may have owned just about every Canon 1Series and they kept getting better throughout the DSLR timeline. After replacing my 1DsIII and 1Dx with two 5DIV's, I had to circle back and add a 1Dx again. I love how they feel in my hand, the files and I don't feel compelled to dive into the R Series. Enjoy your camera.
Those are not AA cells, of any type. They are 18650s. (AA are 14500)
Creator wants cells that don't self discharge.
My 1DSII pack was rebuilt with Sanyo Eneloop AAs.
They will hold charge for years. Ballpark 80% charge remain after 5 years.
If you want Li-Ion, great. If you want them for low self discharge and want to have them stored fully charged, wrong choice.
Dragonfire wrote:
Congratulations on your new toy.
I started with the 1D, skipped the 1D II and purchased the 1DsIII because of the battery.
Did you know your can open your battery and update it with lithium AAs.
The problem with li-ion is there are loads more safety considerations that require circuitry to monitor voltage, charge/discharge, and temperature.
The cost of failure with NiMH, alkaline, SLA, etc. is usually just a leaky mess. The cost of failure with li-ion can be thermal runaway, akin to thermite or a sodium-water reaction.
I haven't watched the video, so maybe it addresses that. I just feel it has to be said, since the topic came up.
That guy was rather reckless in several ways. Soldering dirctly to the cells and planning to throw cells out the windows in anticipation of fire is not cool. I designed and built my first digital battery charger (primitive logic but using A/D to measure current/voltage) 40 years ago. Of course that was in the NiCd era, but you learn a healthy respect for overcharge, rapid discharge and safety measures. You really need two reliable circuits, one in the charger and one in the battery pack. Overvoltage of Li-ion is a nightmare waiting to happen. There should also be a temperature sensor and the circuit should measure the change in current and not just wait forever for a fixed low current in the CC end stage. All kinds of cells run into issues when they age and are near end of life so those characteristics need to be taken into account.
Guys, I was just throwing out a suggestion that was definitely discussed here on FM and numerous YouTube videos as a way to upgrade the 1DsII battery.
I had a brand new 1DsII in my hands at Calumet NYC for $3.5K and decided to spend $7K on the 1DsIII because of the battery, and the larger screen, and the extra 4mp and what turned out to be a great low iso portrait machine.
Given the danger, the response is warranted. I'm a big DIYer and right to repair advocate, I support making, fixing and modifying to your heart's content. But lithium ion is playing with fire. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but the danger should never go without saying. All it takes is one person with a soldering iron, a lack of experience, and/or a lack of adequate warning.
Hmm. My post about the fact that this model was released in 2007 for $6999 seems to have disappeared but it was posted to show what a high quality camera this is and why the asking price is such a huge deal.
Choderboy wrote:
Those are not AA cells, of any type. They are 18650s. (AA are 14500)
Creator wants cells that don't self discharge.
My 1DSII pack was rebuilt with Sanyo Eneloop AAs.
They will hold charge for years. Ballpark 80% charge remain after 5 years.
If you want Li-Ion, great. If you want them for low self discharge and want to have them stored fully charged, wrong choice.
I can only speak from personal experience about the AA versus 18650 up to the 1Ds II. You take the AA battery tray from the 1V body, remove the latch casing, and install the NP-E3 latch back on the AA tray for all bodies from the 1D to 1Ds II, they are the same camera body/battery combination. I use lithium AA and they enable the high speed same as the NP-E2 in 1V, but now I use third party NP-E2 and NP-E3 because they are so inexpensive now. I know that is not at all related to the video in the link, but it works with lithium rechargeable AA. I used the 1Ds II for a few years and sold it here. I still use the Canon 1D all the time with the 1V for those few film shots. I think everyone should go back to their favourite raw/tiff files from these bodies from yesterday and try the denoise in LR and modern sharpening. Like the OP suggests, the files are pretty great to use again. I like the Beattie fresnel screen in mine while still having amazing single point af so the experience is great too along with the files.
Tom RC wrote:
We take for granted shooting at such high ISO’s today but from my failing memory I can’t recall back in those days noise being an issue or feeling the need to push ISO beyond the point that it actually was a problem for the prints, even VERY large prints we delivered to clients from those first few versions of the 1D, 1DS or 5D. Quantum Q flashes and or big heavy White Lightings (remember those??) banging off the ceiling for hours on end could always save the day or night when needed on these ISO challenged bodies.
The great thing about those old bodies is that they taught……forced us to learn to use off camera strobes to appear as if in the final image off camera strobes were never used be it for either low light events or location portrait work. A very valuable skill I’m guessing that is probably missing in many of today’s photographers, even pros....Show more →
What has changed for me since transitioning to mirrorless is that I strobe many fewer venues than I used to. There are still a handful where clean light from strobe really helps a lot with color quality. My mirrorless transition coincides with AI denoise processes that have removed most of the penalties of shooting >ISO 3200 to the point where the client generally doesn't care and it means event coverage is a lot less prep-heavy, for me, than it used to be. However, that is somewhat offset by additional time in post if a venue has spotty lighting quality. Shooting available light has the benefit of not annoying attendees with strobes firing and better captures the actual ambience of the venue. Quality of light on the subject with strobe tends to be better, but sometimes good enough without strobe is indeed good enough.
High ISO capability and AI NR also means that LED lighting is a more viable alternative to strobes for some applications. I'm comfortable with strobes thanks to decades of use, but I can appreciate how LED and WYSIWYG can be great for immediate feedback when setting up a lighting scenario and seeing the effects of changes in realtime.
from having a 1D of some iteration over both shoulders ALL DAY LONG sporting an 85mm 1.2 on one and switching between a 24-70 or 70-200 on the other.