Well, it could have been this or that or this or that etc.; OM Systems (like any other company) has to weigh what they think will sell profitably; just because some of you don't like their decisions (e.g. type of screen, body material, aesthetics, technical capabilities, etc., etc.) doesn't mean that the decisions were "bad", and I doubt that anyone posting on this thread knows enough about OM Systems internal operating capabilities to state what they SHOULD have done just to please you. This forum is getting more like DPReview everyday. Well, I've watched all of the YouTube reviews and was convinced enough to place an order at 3:05 AM.
This is the first sanely priced camera since ... the Z5 II? It's really only OM and Nikon trying to deliver a lot of camera for money these days. On that alone, I hope this sells a million units and pushes other companies to compete on feature-to-price ratio, as opposed to just slowly leapfrogging each other up the cost ladder.
More broadly, I like it. It fills a market segment that somehow, many years on from the X100V catching fire, is still dramatically underserved (cool looking small cameras with big-ish sensors). When OM adds it to their EDU discount list, I'll probably pick one up.
Russ L. Miller wrote:
Well, it could have been this or that or this or that etc.; OM Systems (like any other company) has to weigh what they think will sell profitably; just because some of you don't like their decisions (e.g. type of screen, body material, aesthetics, technical capabilities, etc., etc.) doesn't mean that the decisions were "bad", and I doubt that anyone posting on this thread knows enough about OM Systems internal operating capabilities to state what they SHOULD have done just to please you. This forum is getting more like DPReview everyday. Well, I've watched all of the YouTube reviews and was convinced enough to place an order at 3:05 AM....Show more →
Indeed.
I was told at an OM-3 launch event the budget was so tight, things were taken off the drawing board.
Good for OM for sticking with the budget/plan, and not going for broke, I thought.
I am of the same thinking with this new Pen. I am glad OM did not over spend on it if that's the case.
If this camera had come out last April I would have bought it to go with my OM-1 II, instead of an OM 5 II which I didn't keep very long. But I got back into Fuji and the Pen is the same size as other cameras I now own, including the X100VI and Lumix S9. These days I pick up my X-T5 much more than my OM-1. Unless I need much longer lenses or need CP features.
I do think the Pen is a good addition to the OMDS line up. I do think Panasonic can make something that could be better just by making the L10 into something with a M43 mount...
According to the specs I see now, the new PEN adds over 50 grams to the E-P7. Is it really worth the extra mass? (Is a viewfinder worth almost 60 grams?)
RoamingScott wrote:
I actually really like the L10 on paper vs the Pen just for simplicity's sake. I say that with no intention of using either camera
I was considering an L10 to accompany my SL2s, but held off to see what the new Pen would offer, but I think the L10, while a little more expensive, is the more compelling option for me as it's smaller and has what is essentially a faster, standard zoom lens than the kit lens on the Pen.
matthewm wrote:
I was considering an L10 to accompany my SL2s, but held off to see what the new Pen would offer, but I think the L10, while a little more expensive, is the more compelling option for me as it's smaller and has what is essentially a faster, standard zoom lens than the kit lens on the Pen.
The cool part about the L10 lens is jumping between the standard focal lengths very quickly without having to actually zoom. The part that sucks is racking zoom all the way out or in is very slow.
I think the real time LUT business they are using for JPEGs is cutting edge and would love to see that on every camera I own.
Like you say, I do think the L10 is a better value prop, and I'm hoping to find a cheap one from someone that didn't gel with theirs.
I watched a bit of that video and I’m not clear how the speed compares to the OM1 II. He seems to say it’s better than the Mark 1 and the OM-3, but I have the Mark II. I’d be surprised if it were better than the Mark II.
I have OM1 II and OM-3. I never compared directly but the af is same as far as I know with both having the same processor and battery... OM-1 II has the best ergonomics to hold it... However it is missing the color/B&W simulation flexibility of OM-3/pen that made me switch to OM-3. I can get darker shades with bue sky on red filter with OM-3 and switching is very easy... Also I use the red filter on our dog photos in B&W... Pen-f and Pen 7 have these also, but it was lagging the af and hand held multi shooting... OM pen is catching with some tech, but the price difference of pen and a used OM-3 is not that much... OM pen is smaller and lighter with a rf evf but looses on the faster processor + bigger battery... Here is another video on B&W profiles of pen/OM-3 where you can adjust the strength of the color filters:
OM-3 vs Pen
johnvanr wrote:
I watched a bit of that video and I’m not clear how the speed compares to the OM1 II. He seems to say it’s better than the Mark 1 and the OM-3, but I have the Mark II. I’d be surprised if it were better than the Mark II.
serhan_ wrote:
I have OM1 II and OM-3. I never compared directly but the af is same as far as I know with both having the same processor and battery... OM-1 II has the best ergonomics to hold it... However it is missing the color/B&W simulation flexibility of OM-3/pen that made me switch to OM-3. I can get darker shades with bue sky on red filter with OM-3 and switching is very easy... Also I use the red filter on our dog photos in B&W... Pen-f and Pen 7 have these also, but it was lagging the af and hand held multi shooting... OM pen is catching with some tech, but the price difference of pen and a used OM-3 is not that much... OM pen is smaller and lighter with a rf evf but looses on the faster processor + bigger battery... Here is another video on B&W profiles of pen/OM-3 where you can adjust the strength of the color filters:
