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 p.2 #4 · Noise Reduction - What is your favorite plugin/technique ? | |
Perhaps like you, I remember way back in the ancient days when we pretty much needed to use third-party plugin sharpening tools in Photoshop. It has been long enouugh that I’ve forgotten if that was because PS didn’t supply them or because they were bad. But I do remember people doing crazy stuff like creating edge masks, adjusting their width, and then applying some kind of sharpening that way.
But, thank god, those days are way behind us now.
In my view, if you really understand how sharpening works and what the various sharpening controls do, Adobe’s sharpening has been pretty darned good for years now. While I used to use those plugins back in the day, I have not needed them for years. But at first it was hard to give up those other tools, and I think that may be the case for some people who still think they need the third party stuff to do effective sharpening.
If giving those up was hard, I can just imagine how difficult it is for some of us who mastered how to sharpen using the built-in tools in our software when AI Denoise just sort of… does as well or better with hardly any intervention from us. I’ll admit that I almost felt a little… guilty when I first saw what it could do without all of my careful input.
So, in some ways, I think that the best recommendation that folks might make to workshop participants is to first try AI Denoise, assuming they use Adobe products, and see if you actually still need anything else beyond what is already built into teh software.
Of course, all bets are off for people who don’t have an Adobe subscription… who will, indeed, need something else.
YMMV.
ruthenium wrote:
Dan, I think the important point in the opening post was "...recommended it to all my clients in workshops." The previously recommended app was the old standalone Topaz Denoise, and not Adobe software (and this makes sense to me).
Thus, the question here is not whether Adobe denoise is better or worse than DxO DeepPRIME denoise.
The question is what might be a suitable replacement for Topaz for clients in workshops - the clients who might be a diverse group of some who may or may not want to commit to Adobe subscription.
DxO Photolab (and PureRAW) do not require subscription and conveniently work directly with raw files in user-created directories, without any need to import/ingest the files with another app.
A particular advantage of the DxO software for a workshop is that the clients can use DxO Photolab for 30 days for free - there is no need to make a commitment and purchase the software for that long (unless the workshop should continue past the free-use period).
That kind of photography - birds and wildlife - is IMHO relatively straightforward for processing from raw. While my preference is to do most processing in Capture One, I know from my experience that DxO Photolab works well for birds and wildlife pictures. An average amateur photographer taking casual pictures of some birds, squirrels, etc. in the backyard or a nearby park should be reasonably happy with the results of (mostly auto) processing in DxO Photolab. If you want to see what I mean, download PL9 Elite, and process a bird picture: open the raw file, select among Presets "DxO Optical Corrections Only", then click on DeepPRIME XD3 in "Denoising & Demosaicing". Check whether sharpening is enabled in "Lens Sharpness Optimization." Optionally, adjust exposure and see whether you should like the effect of "DxO Clear View Plus". This is that simple! If you should hate the result - I would be interested in hearing from you....Show more →
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