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The End of Pentax?

  
 
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p.3 #1 · The End of Pentax?


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I completely disagree. Nikon is a 100% forward-thinking company. They are about "innovation", not preservation. Look at how they put almost no thought whatsoever regarding backward compatibility with their Z mount. I felt that pain firsthand when none of my AF-D lenses were able to AF via Nikon's F to Z mount adapter. That was the nail in the coffin that lead me to Canon. Canon's EF to RF mount allowed FULL compatibility with older EF lenses on new RF mount bodies. And don't think Canon created that adapter solely for the benefit of their loyal customers; Canon just didn't
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This is an odd take. Nikon's FTZ adapters work perfectly with their G-series lenses. Famously F mount DSLRs support (nearly) every F mount lens ever made whereas Canon's EF was not backwards compatible with their older FD lenses.

For what it's worth, there is a third party autofocus adapter that supports using screw drive lenses on Z cameras.

Back to the original topic, if Pentax is indeed finished, they've had a good run. It's amazing how long they've kept at it, really, given that they've been rather niche in the digital era.



Jun 23, 2026 at 12:40 PM
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p.3 #2 · The End of Pentax?


snegron7 wrote:
I completely disagree. Nikon is a 100% forward-thinking company. They are about "innovation", not preservation. Look at how they put almost no thought whatsoever regarding backward compatibility with their Z mount. I felt that pain firsthand when none of my AF-D lenses were able to AF via Nikon's F to Z mount adapter. That was the nail in the coffin that lead me to Canon. Canon's EF to RF mount allowed FULL compatibility with older EF lenses on new RF mount bodies. And don't think Canon created that adapter solely for the benefit of their loyal customers; Canon just didn't
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We will just have to agree to disagree then, none of your arguments make any sense to me. Nikon has famously long-lived compatibility, and they have always tried to maintain it, right up until it was hurting their business and they had to make a new mount. Even then they produce real adapters to make older lenses work on the new camera line, as much as possible. You have an incredibly jaded outlook, for no apparent reason. AF-D is a notoriously quirky specification, with a screw-mount for focusing, which would have been expensive and complicated to support, and possibly forced the new cameras to be larger. The "current" mount, a-la EF if you want to compare to Canon, is the AF-S line, which has existed since the 90s.

If you really want to point fingers, Canon is the company to look at. They have broken compatibility deliberately. The fact that you have chosen to buy ancient auto-focus lenses, which were then not supported in autofocus mode when the new bodies came out, is unfortunate, but you can still use them in manual mode, which is far better than what Canon did. You could have bought an entire FD Canon system, and the following day they were unsupported on new bodies. With Nikon you had to wait almost three decades to have a similar effect. There were a couple of lenses, like the defocus lenses, which were still AF-D until recently, but the vast majority of Nikon's huge catalogue has been AF-S for over twenty years, and they are all still supported.

Btw, Sony bought Minolta when they started with DSLRs. I think they kept that mount initially, but I have no idea what support they give to older Sony and Minolta lenses with their E-Mount.

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Jun 23, 2026 at 01:35 PM
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p.3 #3 · The End of Pentax?


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We will just have to agree to disagree then, none of your arguments make any sense to me. Nikon has famously long-lived compatibility, and they have always tried to maintain it, right up until it was hurting their business and they had to make a new mount. Even then they produce real adapters to make older lenses work on the new camera line, as much as possible. You have an incredibly jaded outlook, for no apparent reason. AF-D is a notoriously quirky specification, with a screw-mount for focusing, which would have been expensive and complicated to support, and possibly forced
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Here's a chart from Sony, if you're interested, but, basically LAEA1 and 2 are APSC versions of 3 and 4 respectively, which are for FF. 1 and 3 use the camera's AF system and work with SSM/SAM for single and continuous modes and eye AF is available, aperture control, and EXIF. The 2 and 4 use an AF system built into the adapter that was borrowed from the a99 (SLT included) and will AF all SSM/SAM/screw-driven lenses, but only as well as the a99 did and eye AF is not available. Aperture control and EXIF are available. The 5 is the 3 with a built-in AF motor to drive the screw lenses with some cameras. With the A1, a9III, a7rIV, a7IV, a6600, and FX3 or later, it will use the camera's AF system to drive SSM/SAM/screw-driven lenses in all AF modes and can utilize eye-AF. If I remember correctly, older cameras lose AF on the screw-driven lenses and SAM lenses are limited to single-shot, contrast detect only.



Jun 23, 2026 at 05:14 PM
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p.3 #4 · The End of Pentax?


Sorry, but Canon did it right by breaking entirely from the FD mount. Yes, it was painful for those of us in the FD system at the time (me included), but based on the prospects of what EF was capable of it was IMO the right decision and very forward looking by Canon at the time. I worked in a pro camera shop in the 90s where management was extremely pro Nikon, yet I felt a bit sorry for the Nikon users as from time to time some minor variation to the F mount was released that required new lenses to reap the full benefits of the new camera features. Meanwhile, EF lenses from 1987 for the most part worked on bodies through to the end of the EF line, and now also on the R system, with minor performance downgrade for the really old models. But they still work, including AF. With Canon there's simply EF lenses. With Nikon there's all sorts of F mount flavors with maybe some compatibility, maybe full compatibility, or maybe not. Sure, you can use all or most as manual focus lenses. Great for an AF system.

That was the tradeoff Nikon had to work with to keep using the F mount and maintain general backwards compatibility, initially to satisfy the pre-AF system users. Their transition to mirrorless forced a bigger loss of compatibility (for AF) that maybe they wouldn't have had to suffer if they'd made a similar painful decision back when they transitioned to AF. But Nikon at that time was in a different position from Canon. They were the preeminent professional SLR system and there certainly would have been a massive user revolt if pre-AF F mount lenses were rendered mostly incompatible with the new AF system. Canon could somewhat better afford that backlash as a less pro-oriented system. But the fully electronic EF mount allowed Canon to pretty much annihilate Nikon in the early-mid 90s as the pro market transitioned to AF, where Canon became dominant and it took Nikon ages to release AFS lenses to compete with Canon's USM focusing technology.

As for Minolta... they dropped MD for the new AF system lens mount. But like Nikon they started off all screw-drive lenses, which forced backwards compatibility to that focusing technology as the mount matured. Transition to Sony and mirrorless and it's a bit of a mess, but at least Sony released adapters that allowed use of screw-drive lenses.

And now every mirrorless mount is fully electronic. One thing Canon got right in 1987 with the EF mount...



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p.3 #5 · The End of Pentax?


SrMi wrote:
Pentax was quite a reputable brand in the film days and was the first to introduce many innovations. Many serious photography students started with Pentax because it was not very expensive, was very reliable, and produced great results.



The K1000 ... iconic (imo) for its impact on burgeoning newcomers to our beloved craft.

Relying on our AI friends (for ease, not accuracy), the tally is reportedly in excess of 3,000,000 units.



Jun 23, 2026 at 07:31 PM
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p.3 #6 · The End of Pentax?


Ron, there are certainly arguments to be had for the EF mount introduction, but I think criticising Nikon for poor compatibility because a few two decades old lenses no longer autofocused on Z mount is not correct.


Jun 24, 2026 at 10:11 AM
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p.3 #7 · The End of Pentax?


The Spotmatic series was a huge success for Pentax. Many photographers in the 60’s and early 70’s cut their teeth on a spotmatic camera. My first camera away from P&S was the Spotmatic…many fond memories.


Jun 24, 2026 at 10:30 AM
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p.3 #8 · The End of Pentax?


https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/486767-ricoh-we-will-not-abandon-slrs.html


Jun 24, 2026 at 12:22 PM
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