RustyBug wrote:
Goldilocks, built for the long haul ... sittin' in the middle of the universe ... not king of the hill on anything, yet not a pauper, either.
But, we'll see, where it lands.
But too expensive for what it will be, that’s for sure.
I use Voigtlander lenses with the Canon R5, and I also have a lot of Canon EF lenses – one camera for two systems. The Canon R5 handles the Leica M mount well (e.g., the Canon R was weak, or the R6, color cast). The worst and most difficult lens is the Apo-lanthar 50/2.0. It has a focus curve that only at f/8 is the landscape sharp from edge to edge. Despite this, I really like this lens for its character and image quality at f/2. Even if Cosina made RF versions, from what I can see, the M versions would have a nicer image character than their counterparts, better corrected for RF, Z, or E sensors. Is there a significant difference between the Canon R5 and R5II in terms of field curvature? The sensors are probably the same, only with BSI?
freaklikeme wrote:
True, but it's still highly usable and that sensor is such a delight. I see good, gently used copies going for around a grand and it feels like a no-brainer recommendation.
If you want to improve the confirmation accuracy and keep that wonderful sensor, the Z7II is quite the bargain. Before my guy's father passed, he gave me the Otus 55 I'd traded him for a couple of his R lenses, and he attached it to his Z7II and FTZII, so I took those out for a bit to test it out. It was so nicely spot on in both indoor and outdoor conditions, I tried it with my AF-D 80-200/2.8 and AF-S 300/4D (made manual by the broken AF motor) and found them to be equally solid. It only struggled when I put the 1.7x on the 300, and really only hitting mid-to-infinity. Mid-to-close it was highly accurate, but not perfect. A new one of those is only $200 more than the 5II and $250 less than the ZF.
I agree that the Z7 has a really nice sensor. I liked it a bit more than even the 61 MP sensor in the Sony A7r V that I also liked quite a lot. The green box focus aid in that camera was genuinely useful much like the AF-S AF of that camera. That was a lot better than people gave it credit for. It wasn't good at some things, however. For example, it failed with bees on flowers more often than it hit and as I like to use a longer manual focus lens for those shots I much prefer my current Canon R5 II for those type of shots. Still I gave the Z7/Z7 II very serious consideration when I set up my manual focus camera. It would have been my second choice.
SlowDriver wrote:
I read all 20 pages about the SL3-P on LUF yesterday. Lots of drama, one guy seems to have been banned from the platform, and I still have no clue what the camera is about...
My expectation is that it will be slightly smaller/lighter but not by much.
I agree. "If" Leica continues its current SL system trajectory as it has in the last few years, the alleged SL3-P or whatever the actual camera model might be, has IMO a good probability of being slightly smaller in some aspects of the body and a bit less weight. Seems to me Leica might have taken a hint from the Sony alpha camera size multiple iteration approach from small to larger over time, but in the opposite direction.
LBJ2 wrote:
I agree. "If" Leica continues its current SL system trajectory as it has in the last few years, the alleged SL3-P or whatever the actual camera model might be, has IMO a good probability of being slightly smaller in some aspects of the body and a bit less weight. Seems to me Leica might have taken a hint from the Sony alpha camera size multiple iteration approach from small to larger over time, but in the opposite direction.
I’ll be shocked but pleasantly so if the P is smaller. I haven’t seen a single rumor about a change in the body size but maybe I missed it.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I’ll be shocked but pleasantly so if the P is smaller. I haven’t seen a single rumor about a change in the body size but maybe I missed it.
Nothing more than a hint of a rumored spec to go by regarding size...."Body and operating concept very similar to the new Panasonic generation"