johnvanr wrote:
Integrity plus the perceived need of integrity. Nowadays we have government employees making money on government actions they know are going to happen. That’s sick.
In my days as a wire service reporter, we received some government data under embargo ahead of their release. In those minutes, hundreds of millions could be earned or lost with that knowledge, but no one involved - government employees or journalists - was playing fast and loose with the data, selling it to the highest bidder or some buddy on Wall Street.
And in some reactions to my comments here, it’s clear people are absolutely fine with the knowledge that they’re being played. They just accept it and assume they can deal with it. And maybe we can in the camera gear market, but we’re being played everywhere, including in stuff that’s more important than a new lens....Show more →
Some have the integrity to limit their profiting from their Government position. One such person limited himself to only 1.2 Billion in such profits last year. Credit where credit is due...
Did anyone who went to this Leica event come back with any good images of the race event? All this praise for the AF and burst updates and I can't find a single killer race image from anyone. I wish they would have invited some automotive photographers to this thing.
I have yet to see any. I just watched Chelsea Northrup’s video and she showed a few pan shots with (mostly) too high a shutter speed. I suppose it doesn’t really matter. Obviously, it should be possible to take some good motorsports stuff with this camera, but they didn’t seem to have anybody there with any experience in the genre.
The B&H video shows a couple sequences (photo / video sections) where the AF / FPS seemed adequate. Nothing to write home about aesthetically, but the sequence didn't seem to suffer. That said, they weren't the most challenging of compositions, either. Mostly, just tracking through / out of a turn with modest focal length.
I haven't seen anything shot with long glass at speed, yet.
But, I'm not sure what glass Leica would have been passing out that would have qualified as such, either.
As I think I commented on earlier in this thread, DPR's gallery includes photos with the Leica/Sigma 100-400 but nothing I saw with this lens was critically in focus. I think there was a problem with the lens because photos with the 24-90 were much better, though heat off the track on the long shots may have been a slight factor. But yeah, the panning shots were generally too high a shutter speed or with poor technique if the SS was low enough.
Based on my experience photographing car and motorcycle racing with the Canon R6II, which specs-wise (sensor readout speed) is close to the SL3-P (slightly faster), panning was a significant challenge because of slight viewfinder lag even at 20/40 fps e-shutter. With the Canon, I'm pretty sure still frames are inserted to give the impression of no blackout, but it means as the sequence progresses, you fall a bit behind the actual position of the subject. And when panning a fast moving vehicle, it's very easy for this to throw you off enough and significantly affect the panning keeper rate, which will always be low when you're pushing the low shutter speeds needed to get the most dramatic effects. When I later shot motorcycles with the R1, which has something like 1/300 e-shutter readout and an extremely fluid EVF feed, my panning keeper rate increased significantly. With the R6II, raising the shutter speed resulted in more panning keepers, but significantly decreased the amount of background blur. It's a balance. We don't know how much time they had at the Ring to get their shots and many probably started off playing it safe with higher shutter speeds.
I'm now primarily using a Canon R5II with 1/160 sensor readout speed and better EVF refresh than the R6II, and it's a lot easier to keep up with action because the EVF experience is very close to realtime.
Just to prove I'm not all talk and no results, some racing photos with the Canon R6II and either a 70-200 or 200-400 to prove, yes, it's possible to get good results with a mid-range camera.
Leica can send me an SL3-P, the slow focusing 90-280, a trip to the Ring and I'm pretty sure I can get them some good images.
rscheffler wrote:
As I think I commented on earlier in this thread, DPR's gallery includes photos with the Leica/Sigma 100-400 but nothing I saw with this lens was critically in focus. I think there was a problem with the lens because photos with the 24-90 were much better, though heat off the track on the long shots may have been a slight factor. But yeah, the panning shots were generally too high a shutter speed or with poor technique if the SS was low enough.
Based on my experience photographing car and motorcycle racing with the Canon R6II, which specs-wise (sensor readout speed) is close to the SL3-P (slightly faster), panning was a significant challenge because of slight viewfinder lag even at 20/40 fps e-shutter. With the Canon, I'm pretty sure still frames are inserted to give the impression of no blackout, but it means as the sequence progresses, you fall a bit behind the actual position of the subject. And when panning a fast moving vehicle, it's very easy for this to throw you off enough and significantly affect the panning keeper rate, which will always be low when you're pushing the low shutter speeds needed to get the most dramatic effects. When I later shot motorcycles with the R1, which has something like 1/300 e-shutter readout and an extremely fluid EVF feed, my panning keeper rate increased significantly. With the R6II, raising the shutter speed resulted in more panning keepers, but significantly decreased the amount of background blur. It's a balance. We don't know how much time they had at the Ring to get their shots and many probably started off playing it safe with higher shutter speeds.
I'm now primarily using a Canon R5II with 1/160 sensor readout speed and better EVF refresh than the R6II, and it's a lot easier to keep up with action because the EVF experience is very close to realtime.
Just to prove I'm not all talk and no results, some racing photos with the Canon R6II and either a 70-200 or 200-400 to prove, yes, it's possible to get good results with a mid-range camera.
zeitlos wrote:
If “integrity” means limiting oneself to $1.2 billion in profits connected to public office, then the word has lost all meaning.
My point exactly. The word integrity should never be used to describe anyone in politics, or likely any government employee. But that is not a new thing.
1bwana1 wrote:
My point exactly. The word integrity should never be used to describe anyone in politics, or likely any government employee. But that is not a new thing.
On politicians, I largely agree, no matter the political ideology. On government employees, I don’t agree. I think most of them, like everywhere else, are good people trying to do a good job with the right intentions.
1bwana1 wrote:
My point exactly. The word integrity should never be used to describe anyone in politics, or likely any government employee.
Luckily because people with integrity often end up killing people when the discover that the world is far too complex to fit their view of what is right or wrong
This is why nobody vote for them. And when for some reason, someone with integrity is genuinely trying to do good things while respecting others, he or she is the most hated by all the fanatics (see US history for instance) and ends up unvalued at best, persecuted in a way or another at worse
pmeheut wrote:
Luckily because people with integrity often end up killing people when the discover that the world is far too complex to fit their view of what is right or wrong
This is why nobody vote for them. And when for some reason, someone with integrity is genuinely trying to do good things while respecting others, he or she is the most hated by all the fanatics (see US history for instance) and ends up unvalued at best, persecuted in a way or another at worse
Does it has something to do with the SL3-P?
The SL3-P is so fast, it can capture integrity as it speeds away from a corrupted individual…
pmeheut wrote:
Does it has something to do with the SL3-P?
Anyone who has resisted the original Leica marketing will easily withstand any paid influencer on YouTube as well.😄
johnvanr wrote:
On politicians, I largely agree, no matter the political ideology. On government employees, I don’t agree. I think most of them, like everywhere else, are good people trying to do a good job with the right intentions.
Generaly they prey on their fellow citizens for salary, benifits, and fat early retirements. Hard to equate that to integrity.
Even a cursory look at history will show that is the civil servants that carry out the crimes of the politicians. They are the most dangerous and corrupt people in any society.
1bwana1 wrote:
Generaly they prey on their fellow citizens for salary, benifits, and fat early retirements. Hard to equate that to integrity.
Even a cursory look at history will show that is the civil servants that carry out the crimes of the politicians. They are the most dangerous and corrupt people in any society.
In the British system, as portrayed in Yes Minister, and Yes Prime Minister, the role of the civil service is to keep the country running, in a stable state of inertia, protecting it primarily from the fanciful political ideas and short term point scoring goals of the ruling parliamentary party :-)
stgrove wrote:
Any comments on the SL3-Panasonic instead of politics?
Probably the best model for the first SL3 series body (unless you want Reporter look). It is harder to decide whether it is worth changing from SL3 or SL3-S.
