OMFG, they fixed the back cap! I am literally going to have to order a bunch of the new cap, as I am so tired of futzing to get the cap in the right orientation.
kirbic wrote:
OMFG, they fixed the back cap! I am literally going to have to order a bunch of the new cap, as I am so tired of futzing to get the cap in the right orientation.
Haha, yeah. I actually went the trouble of painting all of my rear caps with a little red dot so that it would be modestly less finicky to find the proper orientation.
All Canon did was remove one of the "bayonets" on the cap. So, file off the "bayonet" that runs from about 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock (the longest one) when looking at the inside of the cap. I used a half-moon file and removed it from one of my caps with about 12 minutes of careful filing and it fits just fine at all three positions. And it even fit EF lenses. You can use a Dremel but I like the control of hand filing. I've done all five of my caps.
justashooter wrote:
All Canon did was remove one of the "bayonets" on the cap. So, file off the "bayonet" that runs from about 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock (the longest one) when looking at the inside of the cap. I used a half-moon file and removed it from one of my caps with about 12 minutes of careful filing and it fits just fine at all three positions. And it even fit EF lenses. You can use a Dremel but I like the control of hand filing. I've done all five of my caps.
Nice. I'm still baffled as to how Canon thought this was a good idea... It's almost as if they intentionally did not want the caps to work with EF lenses at first...
The problem Canon had was that the EF lens mount was already quite large and they did not want the RF to be any larger. So they had to create a worse bayonet with weird spacing. Now with only two lugs it will probably fall off after some wear and tear on the plastic.
Now that they fixed this, perhaps they can allow third party full frame lenses to be used as well! If they really want to one up Sony, they should do it without crippling them for things like FPS or TCs.
This is the first time I have ever "pre-ordered" anything!
On another note, I can only come up with 3 reasons why Canon designed the first RF caps so badly:
1. People who work for Canon don't actually use Canon gear.
2. A carefully plotted marketing ploy to get all of us Canon users go out and spend money on their "updated" caps. Just think about how much money they are making on these new caps; at least 800%.
3. A marketing sensation; build the world's most frustrating rear lens cap ever, create a universal hatred of said rear lens cap, then several years later release an "improved, updated" version to cause a social media frenzy. The publicity is priceless.
justashooter wrote:
All Canon did was remove one of the "bayonets" on the cap. So, file off the "bayonet" that runs from about 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock (the longest one) when looking at the inside of the cap. I used a half-moon file and removed it from one of my caps with about 12 minutes of careful filing and it fits just fine at all three positions. And it even fit EF lenses. You can use a Dremel but I like the control of hand filing. I've done all five of my caps.
Yes, I experimented a while back on one of my RF rear caps and discovered this as well. But this oversight by Canon for 8 years would cost an untold number of lost man-hours if each of us were to carefully file all of our RF caps. Perhaps someone at Canon (or more likely, a committee) thought they were doing us a service with the original RF cap design when instead it created unnecessary frustration.
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For once Pixel is lost for words
The amount of frustration the RF rear caps have caused me over the years…to the extent I often just made do with the lens attached as I couldn’t be arsed to faff about doing a one handed rubik cube impression whilst juggling 2 lenses on the fly!!
Fortunately for me almost all the time I use RF cameras as better focusing EF cameras for my EF glass collection, but yeah, I may give some file love to the rear lens cap of the RF 800/11 that I very occasionally use, now that I know it can work...
I just didn't bother looking seriously into it yet since 800/11 is relatively rare use... I understand the RF-EF converter almost as an unremovable part of the Canon camera now.
I also ended up doing the filing method to mine. Used a small rat-tail round file. Works great! We'll see how long that lasts until I end up buying them all new caps now that Canon released this, though...
Perhaps someone at Canon (or more likely, a committee) thought they were doing us a service with the original RF cap design when instead it created unnecessary frustration. 