I have only recently moved to Canon mirrorless cameras, and currently own the R10 & R100. One of the EFs lenses I am having a hard time replacing is the Tokina 12-28. The zoom lens on this lens is exactly what I need, but with the EF/RF adapter the thing is huge on my 100. So, I am considering the RFs 14-30mm IS STM PZ lens. I give up 2mm on the wide end, and gain 2mm on the long end. Close enough. As I mostly use this lens at family gatherings (indoors and outdoors), and shoot it mostly at f/8, I don't care about the narrow apertures of the RFs lens.
Now to the question. I have looked at Canon's site, and several reviews. I cannot find out if the R10/R100 have menu control of the zoom speed. Oh, I don't do video so not worried about that. I just want to be able to go from 14mm to 30mm as fast as I can turn a manual zoom lens. I understand that 'some cameras' can display the zoom-speed menus for this lens. That is explicitly stated in regard to the R50V. Does anyone know if either of my cameras display menus for controlling zoom speed on the RFs 14-30mm lens?
According to Bryan's review at the Digital Picture, zoom speed can be controlled directly from the lens, in two steps:
"The 14-30 PZ's zoom ring does not function conventionally. Instead, it is a two-directional switch that controls the motor for the built-in power zoom feature. Partially rotating the zoom ring counterclockwise (from behind the camera) slowly zooms the lens to a longer focal length, and a clockwise rotation slowly does the opposite. A full rotation (only a handful of degrees) in either direction switches the motor into its higher speed mode for quick adjustments."
I doubt there is any in-camera control absent some future firmware update.
garyvot wrote:
According to Bryan's review at the Digital Picture, zoom speed can be controlled directly from the lens, in two steps:
"The 14-30 PZ's zoom ring does not function conventionally. Instead, it is a two-directional switch that controls the motor for the built-in power zoom feature. Partially rotating the zoom ring counterclockwise (from behind the camera) slowly zooms the lens to a longer focal length, and a clockwise rotation slowly does the opposite. A full rotation (only a handful of degrees) in either direction switches the motor into its higher speed mode for quick adjustments."
I doubt there is any in-camera control absent some future firmware update. ...Show more →
Yes, thank you. I read TDP's review. It makes no mention at all of in-camera menus to control zoom speed. The 50V can do this. What I am try to find out is whether or not the R100 or R10 can do the same thing.
Exactly as Gary said above
If you turn the zoom slowly it will zoom slowly, turn it fast it will zoom fast.
I love this lens…absolutely love it
As mentioned elsewhere I removed the flat holed washer style hood off my RF35/1.8 and fitted it to the 14-30 via step ring. It’s fantastic!! No vignetting plus it doesn’t add nothing hardly to the length and as the lens itself has internal zoom the size never increases.
Absolutely fabulous!!
I dithered about buying it but I’m so bloody glad I did. My other lenses don’t get a look in these days - it’s become my grab’n’go combo with a couple of spare batteries in my pocket.
Pixelpuffin wrote:
I love this lens…absolutely love it
From Bryan's review, it seems to deliver above average IQ for its price point.
I do like this focal length range (22-48mm or so). Back when I shot APS-H, I really loved using the EF 16-35 f/2.8L, which became a 21-45mm equivalent. I would carry that lens, a 50mm prime (65mm equivalent), and a 70-200 (91-260) and I could should virtually any assignment.
For the work I like to do I would need a faster aperture, but I think this lens sounds great for those who don't.
garyvot wrote:
From Bryan's review, it seems to deliver above average IQ for its price point.
I do like this focal length range (22-48mm or so). Back when I shot APS-H, I really loved using the EF 16-35 f/2.8L, which became a 21-45mm equivalent. I would carry that lens, a 50mm prime (65mm equivalent), and a 70-200 (91-260) and I could should virtually any assignment.
For the work I like to do I would need a faster aperture, but I think this lens sounds great for those who don't.
Well I picked up a used RF 55-210 (mint) came with OEM lens hood but I couldn’t face walking around with the additional length of the hood (I know it’s reversible) so I bought a cheap 3rd party hood off Amazon £6/7) and cut it down with a grinder to reduce its size. I then mounted it along with a lenscap on a lanyard . The lens was then carried inside a mesh bag designed for water bottles that was clipped to my to rucksack. The R100 was permanently attached to my wrist via a strap. The whole combo was perfect. I kept nudging the top mode dial which jve pointed out in a seperate thread. But the R100 + 14-30 + 55-210 + a lightening card reader (iPhone) and a few spare LP E17 batteries… I was good to go
It was perfect, small, light, simple and cheap ( cost me £505 for everything bought used)
PIxelpuffin, does, the R100 have menu controls to adjust the zoom speed? The 50V can adjust how slow/fast the SLOW movement happens, and how fast/slow the FAST movement moves - using in camera menus. Does the R100 do that? Does anyone know if the R10 does that?
I read that only the 50V has the zoom speed customization menu. Maybe it will be added to older cameras at some point with a FW update? If you can live without power zoom, consider the Canon RF 15-30mm F4.5-6.3 is STM. It's small, light and covers a FF image just in case you add FF to your camera cupboard. I found the lens surprisingly sharp and smooth for focus pulls and movie servo.
Gochugogi wrote:
I read that only the 50V has the zoom speed customization menu. Maybe it will be added to older cameras at some point with a FW update? If you can live without power zoom, consider the Canon RF 15-30mm F4.5-6.3 is STM. It's small, light and covers a FF image just in case you add FF to your camera cupboard. I found the lens surprisingly sharp and smooth for focus pulls and movie servo.
Thanks. I looked at the FF 15-30. Since smaller exists, I'll try to stay with APSc gear. I'm not moving toward full frame, I'm moving away from it. A few years back I sold my 6D and 6DII (the full frame 90D), to dropped down to only the 90D. The 90D sold on E-Bay within an hour of posting it. R10/100 are enough form me, right now. I was hoping since the R100 is newer than the 14-30, that camera may have the menu options. Then again, Canon left a truckload of stuff off the R100 to get the price down.
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TomSchriefer wrote:
PIxelpuffin, does, the R100 have menu controls to adjust the zoom speed? The 50V can adjust how slow/fast the SLOW movement happens, and how fast/slow the FAST movement moves - using in camera menus. Does the R100 do that? Does anyone know if the R10 does that?
I will have a look
But tbh how can the R100 possibly have what you’re asking?
I haven’t updated the firmware because there is no update and the lens in question was designed and built long after the R100 was produced - so how can the camera possibly have the same menu options as the later R50v??
It makes no sense.
But I will take a look, maybe the lens firmware somehow interacts with the cameras firmware and updates itself.??
Would canon really do that??
Okay
Just checked through the menu settings with the mode dial at M and Movie icon
I can’t find anything that mentions the zoom speed so guessing the option is not available until canon releases a firmware update.
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TomSchriefer wrote:
Thanks. I looked at the FF 15-30. Since smaller exists, I'll try to stay with APSc gear. I'm not moving toward full frame, I'm moving away from it. A few years back I sold my 6D and 6DII (the full frame 90D), to dropped down to only the 90D. The 90D sold on E-Bay within an hour of posting it. R10/100 are enough form me, right now. I was hoping since the R100 is newer than the 14-30, that camera may have the menu options. Then again, Canon left a truckload of stuff off the R100 to get the price down....Show more →
You have the same mindset as myself - only I still have both 6D/6Dii. I can’t be arsed with the faff of selling on eBay (too many scammers these days)
But I too have moved away from heavy cumbersome FF with their heavy cumbersome and bloody expensive FF glass. I tell ya, shooting with the smaller system is truly liberating. The pressure that FF put on me to try and constantly get the best possible picture everytime or why else trudge around weighed down with heavy conspicuous expensive gear. The laugh is the R100 has both lightened my mindset and my weightload. I can now just snap away carefree (JPEG’s) and after uploading to my phone via a simple card reader have enough control to tweak the pictures on the fly and send to whoever I wish… usually WhatsApp group chats from there on the pictures are sent once more to others.
I much prefer this happy snapping to the dreary methodical approach I had with the FF rig - so glad I moved on.
Photography is fun once more… no pressure just snap happy!! 👍🏻🤣👍🏻
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
I will have a look
But tbh how can the R100 possibly have what you’re asking?
I haven’t updated the firmware because there is no update and the lens in question was designed and built long after the R100 was produced - so how can the camera possibly have the same menu options as the later R50v??
It makes no sense.
But I will take a look, maybe the lens firmware somehow interacts with the cameras firmware and updates itself.??
Would canon really do that??
Okay
Just checked through the menu settings with the mode dial at M and Movie icon
I can’t find anything that mentions the zoom speed so guessing the option is not available until canon releases a firmware update.
I admit to frequently making no sense. I attribute that to 40 years of my wife doing all my thinking for me. I did re-read TDP's review of this lens. Bryan does specifically state that the 50V is the only camera to date with the menu options for this lens. Sorry, missed that. All is good, I found a video demonstration of fast and slow zoom speeds. Fast is quite fast enough for me.
Not that it matters in this thread, but I am selling: my wide(r) EFS lenses: Sigma 8-16, Tokina 12-28, Canon 18-135 USM to facilitate my transition to R-bodies. I will be keeping my 100L, 70-300 II, and Sigma 150-600. Replacing those is a bit expensive for me.
p.1 #13 · Help with RFs 14-30mm IS STM PZ, please.
Pixelpuffin wrote:
You have the same mindset as myself - only I still have both 6D/6Dii. I can’t be arsed with the faff of selling on eBay (too many scammers these days)
But I too have moved away from heavy cumbersome FF with their heavy cumbersome and bloody expensive FF glass. I tell ya, shooting with the smaller system is truly liberating. The pressure that FF put on me to try and constantly get the best possible picture everytime or why else trudge around weighed down with heavy conspicuous expensive gear. The laugh is the R100 has both lightened my mindset and my weightload. I can now just snap away carefree (JPEG’s) and after uploading to my phone via a simple card reader have enough control to tweak the pictures on the fly and send to whoever I wish… usually WhatsApp group chats from there on the pictures are sent once more to others.
I much prefer this happy snapping to the dreary methodical approach I had with the FF rig - so glad I moved on.
Photography is fun once more… no pressure just snap happy!! 👍🏻🤣👍🏻...Show more →
Agreed. Well except for the E-Bay thing. I've bought and sold hundreds of items on E-Bay, with no issues.
The R10&R100, with RF lenses, are 1/2 the size of my APSc gear, and less than 1/2 the weight. Liberating is a good word. I shoot everything in CRAW, and use DPP to process... minimally.
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
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But I too have moved away from heavy cumbersome FF with their heavy cumbersome and bloody expensive FF glass.
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Each to his own, but in case of myself, I don't agree. Not everytime, but I am quite a glutton for thin DOF, and 85/1.2L on a cropper just doesn't cut it - there isn't a comparable APS-C lens either.
I do use a cropper though (R10), either in walkaround case with nothing in mind (then I slap EF-S 18-135 USM on it typically), or as my everyday carry (now everyday means "when I go to the office outside home office," heh). I also tend to use R10 as "glasless 1.6x TC" for my R6/2. And for some rare cases when I shoot video with the poor man's motorized zoom, i.e. said 18-135 with the motorized PZ-E1 chin.
I am not willing to give up FF. The RF also made the bloody expensive FF glass no longer "bloody" in second hand shops. So I am pretty happy with it overall. Maybe it's because I don't own (and lug around ) any of those large heavy whites, I ended at 70-200/2.8 L IS II and 70-300L (which gets ocassionally shunned and I leave with the smaller DO version).
Quite recently (after 19 years of shooting Canon EOS) I discovered fisheyes, first the old 15/2.8 and then the 8-15L, and even though I don't use the circular feature of it frequently, I like to have it available. From Canon, I can get the circular feature only on FF.
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Agreed. To each his own. I am sneaking up on 70. I've had my fill of shooting high-school sports with a 1DIV & 100-400L, while simultaneously carrying a shorter setup (60D and 15-85 IIRC) for sideline work. I don't have that in me anymore. Selling my APSH gear, and later the full-frame stuff, felt like a weight lifted off my shoulders. At some point the 90D and EF lenses became heavier, and I used them less. I bought the R10 twice before I got to like it. My R10/18-150 weight 1/2 what the 90D/18-135 weighed. The R100/18-45 weighs less than the 18-135 by itself. My journey is not necessarily anyone else's journey, but I agree with Pixelpuffin. I am back to enjoying my gear, and using it more. Win, win.
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MintMar wrote:
It's entirely possible I'd be singing the same song within 20 years.
But what do we say to the SellingTheFF? Not today.
The body is not the issue
It’s the lenses that need to be big to cover the sensor
May 11, 2026 at 06:29 AM
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p.1 #18 · Help with RFs 14-30mm IS STM PZ, please.
Pixelpuffin wrote:
The body is not the issue
It’s the lenses that need to be big to cover the sensor
The lenses don't have to be big to cover the FF sensor. Look at the EF 40 f/2.8 STM. Yes, the size of the sensor can have some impact on the size of a lens, but the lens mount and the entrance pupil of the lens typically matter more. It is totally possible to build small FF lenses, it is just Canon (and most manufacturers) typically doesn't do so.
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Steve Spencer wrote:
The lenses don't have to be big to cover the FF sensor. Look at the EF 40 f/2.8 STM. Yes, the size of the sensor can have some impact on the size of a lens, but the lens mount and the entrance pupil of the lens typically matter more. It is totally possible to build small FF lenses, it is just Canon (and most manufacturers) typically doesn't do so.
We're still waiting on those; Canon had three pancakes prior to RF, the 40/2.8, the APS-C DSLR 24/2.8, and the APS-C mirrorless EF-M 22/2. We have the 16/2.8 that's fairly short with tons of distortion and vignetting for full-frame mirrorless, but that is really not a great example (though it's a great lens in its niche admittedly).
In theory, the 40/2.8 wouldn't get any smaller; its dimensions are part of the 'square' between sensor width and flange focal distance (~42mm x 42mm), but there should be a 22/2 port and hopefully a more normal (~50mm) pancake as well.
But I think the real benefit of widening the flange comes from ultrawide and standard zoom lens potential. Something like Sony's 4/20-70G, but even wider, should be possible.
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johnctharp wrote:
We're still waiting on those; Canon had three pancakes prior to RF, the 40/2.8, the APS-C DSLR 24/2.8, and the APS-C mirrorless EF-M 22/2. We have the 16/2.8 that's fairly short with tons of distortion and vignetting for full-frame mirrorless, but that is really not a great example (though it's a great lens in its niche admittedly).
In theory, the 40/2.8 wouldn't get any smaller; its dimensions are part of the 'square' between sensor width and flange focal distance (~42mm x 42mm), but there should be a 22/2 port and hopefully a more normal (~50mm) pancake as well.
But I think the real benefit of widening the flange comes from ultrawide and standard zoom lens potential. Something like Sony's 4/20-70G, but even wider, should be possible....Show more →
I agree with your post
I currently run two different systems
Canon and Pentax
Pentax AF is behind the curve no two ways about it. BUT their lenses…Geez their lenses!!
I cannot get over how fabulous both the Da21 and Da70 are. The 70 is superb… same proportions as a regular 50mm yet due to its crop factor gives 105mm !! I love its ability to not draw attention to itself yet is able to isolate subjects. Pentax also do a pair of 2.8 zooms specifically designed and built for aps-c bodies.
) any of those large heavy whites, I ended at 70-200/2.8 L IS II and 70-300L (which gets ocassionally shunned and I leave with the smaller DO version).