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Avntgardist wrote:
This. I could do without a mechanical shutter altogether. Absolutely quiet, cannot break, lighter, smaller and ultimately cheaper to manufacture.

Question is if they dare to cut ties with their heritage that much.


I hear you on the technical upsides, but I'm actually on the other side of this one. Even if electronic ends up objectively "better" on paper, I'd hate to see the mechanical shutter go, at least not on the M. Part of what makes these cameras special to me is that they stay mechanical where it counts.



Aug 30, 2026 at 08:49 AM
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I hear you on the technical upsides, but I'm actually on the other side of this one. Even if electronic ends up objectively "better" on paper, I'd hate to see the mechanical shutter go, at least not on the M. Part of what makes these cameras special to me is that they stay mechanical where it counts.


This might be a case where they could further differentiate a future M-EV with stacked sensor by removing the mechanical shutter but keep the mechanical shutter in the regular M cameras.



Aug 30, 2026 at 08:58 AM
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p.7 #3 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


No mechanical shutter? Slow your roll. I have a Sony for the tech. I don't want more tech in the M. Am I'm sounding like the old guy holding up progress? Maybe so.


Aug 30, 2026 at 09:05 AM
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p.7 #4 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


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I used to think the 'R' in Leica models stood for resolution...like when the M10-P jumped from 24MP to the 40MP M10-R. But since the standard M11 is already 60MP and there isn't a higher-resolution sensor on the horizon, would an M11-R even make sense?

Honestly, I think the next body will be an M12 (or whatever they decide to call it). We have already seen all the money making variations for the M11 generation like, M11-P, M11-D, Safari, special editions, glossy paint, etc. At this point, it feels like it's either time to move on to a new generation,
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The rumor from connected sources was that Leica wasn't going to have a new sensor ready in time for the typical new digital M launch cycle, so they were going to make an interim M11 model with the R designation that uses the improved 60mp sensor.



Aug 30, 2026 at 12:10 PM
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highdesertmesa wrote:
The rumor from connected sources was that Leica wasn't going to have a new sensor ready in time for the typical new digital M launch cycle, so they were going to make an interim M11 model with the R designation that uses the improved 60mp sensor.


I see, thanks for clarifying. Didn't know about this one.



Aug 30, 2026 at 12:13 PM
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I might have missed something in this thread but what is the “ improved 60mp sensor.“?


Aug 30, 2026 at 12:32 PM
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p.7 #7 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


Maybe something, anything, to improve startup time...


Aug 30, 2026 at 12:44 PM
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Maybe something, anything, to improve startup time...


One can hope but as Leica refused to listen for 20 years since the M8, I guess it will stay a dream.
I have no idea why they are so stubborn.



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pmeheut wrote:
One can hope but as Leica refused to listen for 20 years since the M8, I guess it will stay a dream.
I have no idea why they are so stubborn.


They are German.



Aug 30, 2026 at 01:07 PM
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They are German.


Sure but I worked there and over 20 years, you can convince them to improve a product. Usually it does not take that long.





Aug 30, 2026 at 01:26 PM
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p.7 #11 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


joakim wrote:
I might have missed something in this thread but what is the “ improved 60mp sensor.“?


The one used in the A7RVI that is stacked now.



Aug 30, 2026 at 01:49 PM
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p.7 #12 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


pmeheut wrote:
Sure but I worked there and over 20 years, you can convince them to improve a product. Usually it does not take that long.



There is a massive “if” the size of the sun missing in that sentence



Aug 30, 2026 at 01:50 PM
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p.7 #13 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


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I see, thanks for clarifying. Didn't know about this one.


I found this on Leica Rumors, but I only remember it from being discussed either here and/or on LUF.

https://leicarumors.com/2026/06/23/leica-m11-r-camera-rumors.aspx/



Aug 30, 2026 at 01:55 PM
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p.7 #14 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


Will the new boss change the direction that we all expect?


Aug 30, 2026 at 03:49 PM
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p.7 #15 · Leica M12 Latest Rumors


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Part of what makes these cameras special to me is that they stay mechanical where it counts.


If they would develop a line of leaf-shutter lenses for the M (without in body focal plane shutter) ...that would be very special. Otherwise, being crippled to e-shutter only would likely mean they would need to optimize the readout for speed (unless ... ).

IF ... they went with an e-shutter and mechanical, leaf shutter lenses (undeveloped presently), I think it would be something that would be so UNIQUE to the industry, that they would be even MORE Leica-esque ... i.e. marching to their own tune, with something that NO ONE else would dare go there (enduring eternally), as the only game in niche-town for that.

Not holding my breath, though.




Aug 30, 2026 at 06:11 PM
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