p.1 #1 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
I have made the transition to Canon mirrorless. The 90D is sold, and I have acquired: R100, R10, 18-45, 18-150, 55-210. Yes, I see much redundancy in that gear. I may sell the R100/18-45/55-210 kit, but it does make a small, light, relatively complete kit for travel.
After some time with the R10, I am growing to appreciate its capabilities. Auto-focus and frame rate improvements are huge coming from the 90D. I may make use of Raw Burst, but find it cumbersome to extract photos from the file.
Anyway... My biggest complaint about the R10 is how to hold it. I have relatively large hand (XL gloves), and holding it like I did the DSLRs is... a bit off. For tracking, I prefer to use the EVF. Is that how everyone does it? If it matters, I use a Peak Designs wrist strap on all my cameras. It does seem to get in the way a bit when using the EVF on the R10. I also find it a bit difficult to hold the camera steady. It is much smaller and lighter than my DSLRs. What technique adjustments may help with holding/shooting my R10?
I don't worry about the R100. I am ok using that setup for a casual snaps. I've even gotten a bit used to using the back LCD for shooting. And may sell it, anyway.
p.1 #2 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
I don't own an R10, but in case of the R8 (which has a very similar form factor), the grip seems simply too short to support the little finger of a big hand, which affects the handling in particular with larger lenses. Is this what you notice? With the R8 the small-looking grip extension EG-E1 makes a big difference, not sure whether something similar exists for the R10.
p.1 #3 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Canon does not make a battery grip for the R10. As much as I liked the 1D4, I am not a fan of screw on grips. I hold most of my lenses with an underhand grip on the lens, and right hand on camera. I don't think it is some much a balance issue as it is the small camera. Don't get me wrong, I am getting happier with the smaller camera every time I pick it up. Age will do that to you. Do you use EVF or LCD when shooting? Does it matter? I just seem to struggle to get both hands and the camera up to my eye,and hold it steady. May be just a matter of getting used to a smaller camera that weighs half what my 90D weighed.
p.1 #5 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Odd. I just noticed that the IS on the R100 does not engage until the shutter release is pressed. Is that normal across the R-series? I swear my DSLRs could engage the IS while focusing/framing. Gonna go see if the R10 behaves the same way.
EDIT
I used the EF 18-135 USM on the R100 and R10. The R10 appears to engage the IS while focusing both lenses. The R100 appears to engage the IS on neither lens while focusing. I suspect this is an illusion caused by the difference in LCD/EVF refresh rate. The IS engaged on both lenses on both cameras while the exposure is made. The results are indistinguishable.
p.1 #6 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
TomSchriefer wrote:
Do you use EVF or LCD when shooting? Does it matter? I just seem to struggle to get both hands and the camera up to my eye,and hold it steady. May be just a matter of getting used to a smaller camera that weighs half what my 90D weighed.
By default I use EVF, which is outdoors often much easier to see than the screen. I only use the screen for composition when I need to position the camera such that using the EVF is not practical (e.g. waist level or overhead shooting).
p.1 #7 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Small and light cameras are a challenge to grip in a steady manner, especially since there's not enough room for all the fingers. I installed an Arca plate with a pinkie extension so at least I can hold my R7 with all my RH fingers on the grip. There are half and full cages for the R10 that afford more grip area and are great if you use tripods and gimbals.
p.1 #8 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Gochugogi wrote:
Small and light cameras are a challenge to grip in a steady manner, especially since there's not enough room for all the fingers. I installed an Arca plate with a pinkie extension so at least I can hold my R7 with all my RH fingers on the grip. There are half and full cages for the R10 that afford more grip area and are great if you use tripods and gimbals.
Everybody wants a small camera, but nobody wants to *use* a small camera.
p.1 #9 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
For someone with big hands anything smaller than a 5D4 is going to be difficult to use, especially with longer and heavier lenses. All current mirrorless bodies are bad for ergonomy, except for the R1/R3.
p.1 #10 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Uarctos wrote:
For someone with big hands anything smaller than a 5D4 is going to be difficult to use, especially with longer and heavier lenses. All current mirrorless bodies are bad for ergonomy, except for the R1/R3.
I went from a 5D3/7D2 to an R6. It's a little smaller, but still comfortable enough since the right side grip is a good size and fits the natural curve of my relaxed hand. I also have a Panasonic GH-3 that's a little smaller still, but still comfortable due to the grip. I've also owned a Fuji XT-1 and it actually hurt my hand the first couple of days. The lack of grip meant I had to squeeze the camera harder with my right hand to maintain control. Ironically, the smaller, lighter cameras, which usually lack right hand grips, are more two-handed camera compared to larger, heavier camera with a meaty grip for the right hand to make contact over a large surface area.
p.1 #11 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Mike_5D wrote:
Everybody wants a small camera, but nobody wants to *use* a small camera.
Too true.
The only time I've ever wished for a small camera (and lenses) are when I'm packing for a trip, and especially if I'm going to be carrying them distances (e.g. hiking, safari, etc.).
But when I ultimately get to the destination and take some amazing shots, and then when we're all back at the hotel and my friends see my pictures and I see theirs (mostly on their smartphones, but occasionally a point-n-shoot with a zoom) I'm always glad I made the extra effort.
What I actually want is some Pym Particles (any Ant-Man fans in the house?) so I can shrink all my gear down when I need to travel, and then restore them to normal size when I arrive at the destination.
p.1 #12 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
I owned an R10 for a time but couldn't ultimately vibe with it. It does feel a bit cramped in the hand, but I found the EVF, in particular, to be a bit too small for comfort. For those who shoot mostly using the rear display, it's probably fine.
I currently use an R8 as a travel camera with the lovely Eg-E1 extension grip. This combo feels great in the hand, and the EVF, while modest, is usable (for me). Full frame lenses are bigger, true, but some of Canon's STM primes and zooms are small and light enough to suit this purpose.
In any case, if your primary concern with the R10 is in-hand ergonomics, there is apparently a 3d-printed extension grip available here:
p.1 #13 · Your hints for holding/shooting R10, please.
Whilst I don’t have the R10 but do have the R100 & R50 both even smaller than your R10
I too struggled so bought cages for both
Problem is the cage really does add bulk and is quite uncomfortable to carry all day. So I picked up two half leather cases (Amazon) wow, what a transformation. The grip is now thicker so easier to hold. Ivan plonk the camera down wherever I like as the base is totally protected ..Win Win.
