BigBabyMoses06 wrote:
Wanted to share some findings and see if anyone else has experienced this.
I'm getting inaccurate live view / exposure previews at high shutter speeds. Here is a quick video showing it in action and showing how you can see it in the live view once you start shooting. It behaves the same in ES or Mech, and above 1/5000 it is obvious. Once I start adding ISO it quickly goes away, but is still visible at iso 160. Aperture doesn't affect it. Lens doesn't matter. Metering doesn't affect it.
Separately, but probably related somehow, electronic shutter is giving me darker exposures than mech shutter, tho that appears to be also at high shutter speeds. I have to do more testing, but here are two photo examples, taken seconds apart. First is mech shutter, second is ES. I took about 50 photos to make sure I wasn't going crazy and to rule out that the light could be changing on me.
Otherwise, here are a few snaps I took messing around earlier to get a feel for the colors and general handling. Really liking the colors out of camera. They don't need a lot of editing at all, at least with the LR color profile. Have not tried it with people yet, but have a portrait session on Sunday I'll be using it for. ...Show more →
Interesting, I never thought to use live view to judge my final image, other than composition and focus.
BigBabyMoses06 wrote:
Wanted to share some findings and see if anyone else has experienced this.
I'm getting inaccurate live view / exposure previews at high shutter speeds. Here is a quick video showing it in action and showing how you can see it in the live view once you start shooting. It behaves the same in ES or Mech, and above 1/5000 it is obvious. Once I start adding ISO it quickly goes away, but is still visible at iso 160. Aperture doesn't affect it. Lens doesn't matter. Metering doesn't affect it.
Separately, but probably related somehow, electronic shutter is giving me darker exposures than mech shutter, tho that appears to be also at high shutter speeds. I have to do more testing, but here are two photo examples, taken seconds apart. First is mech shutter, second is ES. I took about 50 photos to make sure I wasn't going crazy and to rule out that the light could be changing on me.
Otherwise, here are a few snaps I took messing around earlier to get a feel for the colors and general handling. Really liking the colors out of camera. They don't need a lot of editing at all, at least with the LR color profile. Have not tried it with people yet, but have a portrait session on Sunday I'll be using it for. ...Show more →
The metering value is blinking at -2.0 that means that you are more underexposed than -2.0 and then when you take photo the result is darker photos.
When you raise the exposure and the metering value of -2.0 stops blinking you don't get darker photos than viewed.
So this is in full manual mode, I should have mentioned that. My RV and any other mirrorless I've owned doesn't behave this way. (Except for my A1 at the super high extended ES speeds).
I could point it at the sun on spot metering and it would do the same thing. (Obviously I won't be doing that lol).
biggles2002 wrote:
The metering value is blinking at -2.0 that means that you are more underexposed than -2.0 and then when you take photo the result is darker photos.
When you raise the exposure and the metering value of -2.0 stops blinking you don't get darker photos than viewed.
biggles2002 wrote:
The metering value is blinking at -2.0 that means that you are more underexposed than -2.0 and then when you take photo the result is darker photos.
When you raise the exposure and the metering value of -2.0 stops blinking you don't get darker photos than viewed.
I’d just add to clarify that if you set the VF readout to match exposure and color in the menu, then it darkens or lightens or changes colors accordingly. I don’t recall if this setting is on by default, but it’s something I definitely turn on.
BigBabyMoses06 wrote:
Edit: No idea what happen but it started randomly working lol. Will keep an eye on it.
Flash users, anyone get their live view display to automatically enable/disable when your flash controller is turned on/off? It worked on my RV and A1, but when I turn on my westcott fj-x3 controller, live view doesn't automatically turn off. I added it to fn button to work around for now.
I don't even own or plan on owning the Rvi, but I often learn things checking out "adjacent" threads. So is there a way to auto detect flash for live view on / off on other Sony bodies?
I need to add another comment. I was planning on picking up a low use A7R5 as a second body for my second lens — when in the field doing landscape, I frequently have one camera with my goto lens on the tripod and the other over my shoulder for faster lens choice without swapping, be it a wide, or a macro, or a tele. A luxury to be sure, but it also tics the backup body box. However, now that I’ve gained some facility processing this cameras raws, I’m appreciating it more and more. Hence my thinking is now just bite the bullet and get a second one of these instead 🤷🏼
Unless perhaps the A1iii with this sensor is on the horizon 😱
Jack Flesher wrote:
Surprising to me was it’s being renovated right now. Like a total retrofit.
Going off topic a bit, I did some night photography there back during the last years when they turned on the old light... before they had to shut the thing down due to structural damage and weakness, and then for the years-long renovation.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Going off topic a bit, I did some night photography there back during the last years when they turned on the old light... before they had to shut the thing down due to structural damage and weakness, and then for the years-long renovation.
I'm glad they are investing in protecting it.
It was a popular shot for super long exposure film under a full moon. IIRC, it required about two hours total exposure, during which you had to cover the lens during each sweep at the camera, then let the last two or three sweep through for the proper effect. A buddy took the time for it with a 4x5 loaded with Provia, and got a great shot He was smart though, and set the camera low enough he could sit in a camp chair and perform the lens blocks. His dedication to do that for a 2 hour stretch was impressive, and his shot was definitely worth it.
Jack Flesher wrote:
It was a popular shot for super long exposure film under a full moon. IIRC, it required about two hours total exposure, during which you had to cover the lens during each sweep at the camera, then let the last two or three sweep through for the proper effect. A buddy took the time for it with a 4x5 loaded with Provia, and got a great shot He was smart though, and set the camera low enough he could sit in a camp chair and perform the lens blocks. His dedication to do that for a 2 hour stretch was impressive, and his shot was definitely worth it. ...Show more →
Ah, the era of reciprocity failure. May it rest in peace. ;-)
300 2.8 no TC. In jpeg off my phone I can't tell a different other than noise. It let me get so close that the back of its head and beak were out of focus. Eyes are razor sharp, you can see the sky line and trees in its eyes.
AF is very, very good. Incredible recognition. I still see an advantage in my A1 calculations per second, especially with moving subjects like running dogs, but holy cow. It's good. Now to coax the humming birds to let me get close again.
BigBabyMoses06 wrote:
300 2.8 no TC. In jpeg off my phone I can't tell a different other than noise. It let me get so close that the back of its head and beak were out of focus. Eyes are razor sharp, you can see the sky line and trees in its eyes.
AF is very, very good. Incredible recognition. I still see an advantage in my A1 calculations per second, especially with moving subjects like running dogs, but holy cow. It's good. Now to coax the humming birds to let me get close again.
Another jpeg, this time tossed in LR mobile. It was very dark and I was under exposed. It tracked the eyes very well the entire time but shutter speed was just too slow to get a lot of keepers. ES 5fps.
I did, posted some images from the combo earlier in this thread. It worked great for me, sharp lens and wonderful size/weight for all day carry. Quick and accurate focusing for me on the A7R6. The optical stabilization is ok but not as good as some of the Sony teles.
