GDan. It sounds like you haven’t yet bought an A7RIV. If not, I recommend that you try renting and using the A7RVI or A7RV with EF adapters and your favorite EF lenses, and that you also try renting and using the Canon5R Mk II with those lenses with the Canon adapter. Unless you’re not planning on using any of your EF lenses you currently own with adapters. . . . I have loved the Sony A7RIII, RIV, and RV. But at the time (2020), I couldn’t find a great Sony telephoto zoom, so I ended up trying the Canon EF 70-300mmL with an adapter and absolutely loved it, and bought the copy I rented. But here’s the thing, the lens was great, but using it on the A7RIII and A7RIV was really tedious. I only missed a few images but because that lens had become one of my two main lenses, I wanted better ergonomics. And the Canon 5R (v. I) was a dream to use with that lens. The Canon R telephoto lenses are also fantastic. In contrast, I really didn’t like any of the 15mm-35mm L f2.8 Canon lenses that I rented or any of the various Canon 14-35mm f4L lens copies that I rented or purchased and had to return. . . . I now use the Sony A7RV for everything from 15mm to 105mm, and the Canon 5R for 70-300mm, 70-200mm, and 100-500ml. OTOH, if you’re not planning on using EF lenses with adapters, I understand that the current Sony 70-200mm F4L and 70-200mm f2.8 zooms are superb. For me, I do not want to part with or stop using any of my Canon telephoto zooms or my Sony 16-35mm, Sony 20mm, Sony 35mm f1.4, . . . . (Or any of several other Sony lenses).
InFocus2014 wrote:
The thing that surprised me the most is that the R6 battery was at 96% when done and is still over 90% with a great deal of testing over several hours! The combination of combining processing chips to increase efficiency and the higher battery capacity is working wonders. The net effect is way more than the 25% that Sony is claiming.
When guys like Jag Wegner go and take over 8000 bird shots and still say they have over 50% battery left, you know just how much better the battery life is. However, this is not just due to battery at all. This was highlighted with the A7V whihc while still on the old FZ100 battery also achieves massive improvements to battery life leaving the competition for dead. They combined the AI processing chip onto the cpu (BIONZ) chip greatly reducing power draw. A7RVI would have certainly also done the same. Sony combine the A7V's ~30% battery life improvement with the A7RVI's 25% improved battery capacity and possibly further power reduction schemes and it's no wonder the battery life is so good.
Most people were doing MS with the a7rV due to the slow sensor, so that shutter really takes some power.
I've reached up to 14,743 lossless RAW files with the R5 II in ES at 30FPS. That had a 16Wh battery pack like the usual NPFZ Sony. Obviously Sony did the right thing by changing to the new battery. We saw plenty of problems with the Canon at low temperature and some with the A1 II at low temperature as well. I have little doubt that NPSA batteries are the future for the A9 and A1 series also.
I just bought a 1TB Pergear Type 4.0 for US $328.
The first Pergear 1TB I bought, almost exactly 2 years ago has been flawless.
It's a Type 2.0 and cost US $457.
I also have a 260GB about 6 months older that has also been flawless.
deepDEEPpurple wrote:
With this amount of data we just need affordable storage once again.
Since receiving the 50-150mm lens, I decided to get the vertical grip and a battery. It is backordered at B&H with 450 on order. So, if they have 450 on order, the initial order of A7Rvi must have been quite substantial given that few purchase the vertical grip.
bwcolor wrote:
Since receiving the 50-150mm lens, I decided to get the vertical grip and a battery. It is backordered at B&H with 450 on order. So, if they have 450 on order, the initial order of A7Rvi must have been quite substantial given that few purchase the vertical grip.
B&H must have received a lot of camera bodies in initial orders then as they are showing in stock. I was kind of surprised that they were available in stock so close to the release date.
deepDEEPpurple wrote:
With this amount of data we just need affordable storage once again.
One 512 CFExpress for 500 bucks is eye watering.
Then you have to store the data. A 28TB HDD is around $1100, so just one simple 8-bay NAS would be about $10K. Not so long ago the 28TB drives were ~$500, frequently on sale.
Adorama and two of my local dealers are showing they have them in stock too. I am a bit surprised as well. Maybe a lot of the folks who bought the A7RV feel the A7RV is more than good enough for what they shoot and are not convinced they need the speed improvement of the A7RVI , and the A1II crowd are not going to get the A7RVI to replace their A1II because the A1II is still better for fast actions due to the faster sensor speed and AF calculation. It's purely my speculation. Or it's simply because the initial shipment was very large...
Douglas L wrote:
Adorama and two of my local dealers are showing they have them in stock too. I am a bit surprised as well. Maybe a lot of the folks who bought the A7RV feel the A7RV is more than good enough for what they shoot and are not convinced they need the speed improvement of the A7RVI , and the A1II crowd are not going to get the A7RVI to replace their A1II because the A1II is still better for fast actions due to the faster sensor speed and AF calculation. It's purely my speculation. Or it's simply because the initial shipment was very large......Show more →
Hi Douglas.
I haven't been following the A7RVI too closely, but what would you say would be the major reason for an A7RV or A1/A1II owner to upgrade to the A7RVI? I am not clear on any major advantages that it offers to users of those cameras.
On the other hand, if you own an earlier model of the R series Sony cameras, there might be more reason to upgrade. Or, if you are coming to Sony from another system, the A7RVI might be a very appealing choice.
It may be that the A7RVI will sell slowly and steadily but without any major rush of sales.
The a7RVI replaces the a7RV, period. It is much faster than the a7RV so can be used in any situation where the a7RV was used in addition to some situations where a faster camera like the A1 would be used. Resolution is higher and low-gain DR (DGO) is quite impressive, so another reason to upgrade.
The a7RVI was never intended as a replacement for the A1 series. Unfortunately some Bozos on the web touted the a7RVI as the greatest thing since sliced bread and some suckers believed that.
I was at Bozeman Camera Friday and they had an A7RVI in stock. I went there to trade some older gear in on an A1II and it was a tough choice between them but I decided to stick to my guns and get the A1II. I might pick up the VI at some point later on though, after other people have worked the bugs out of them.
I haven't been following the A7RVI too closely, but what would you say would be the major reason for an A7RV or A1/A1II owner to upgrade to the A7RVI? I am not clear on any major advantages that it offers to users of those cameras.
On the other hand, if you own an earlier model of the R series Sony cameras, there might be more reason to upgrade. Or, if you are coming to Sony from another system, the A7RVI might be a very appealing choice.
It may be that the A7RVI will sell slowly and steadily but without any major rush of sales....Show more →
First of all, I personally think the A7RVI is a phenomenal package for the price, a lot more reasonably priced than the A1II.
With that out of the way, I think most people bought the A7RV for it for the resolution, new focus bracketing feature not available in older R models, better IBIS, newer LCD. They probably use the R5 mainly for landscape, studio, travel, macro type of stuff. That's how I used my R5 but I don't pretend I speak for most of the R5 owners. Sure, some of them may shoot fast stuff once in a while. Now, if one sells the R5 for $2250 to upgrade to the R6, that's $2250 new expenditure + new backup batteries, etc. Is the R6's vastly better speed worth the $2250 new expenditure for folks who mainly shoot non fast action stuff? Sure the R6 has slightly better dynamic range but is it really visible to most users? The Canon folks have made marvelous images with Canon's "interior" sensors. I guess at the end, If one wants a high resolution camera that also does fast stuff pretty well, the A7RVI is a no brainer.
As for myself, I sold my A7RV and are down to two A1II now. I may get an R5 again for landscape, cityscape, travel stuff when it falls below $2000 in the used market. As for the A7RVI, I am keeping a close eye on the actual users reports. If the electronic shutter is indeed good enough for most of the stuff I shoot, I may actually replace one of my A1II bodies with the R6. I will definitely keep one A1II for fast stuff that it's better at than the A7RVI.
Again, I think the A7RVI sounds like an amazing camera.
I had a very similar problem after I updated to the latest Lightroom to support the a7r6 files. None of my AI denoise would “sync” in batch edit mode. I eventually had to delete the entire lr.data folder. The one that contains all of the AI edits, and that appears to have fixed the issue. But not ideal as I have lost my ai masks for previous collections.
Jason29 wrote:
Is anyone else having this issue with your Sony A7RVI and exporting files in Lightroom desktop on a mac?
With the new Sony A7RVI, when I go to export raw photos with any mask, it provides the attached error message even though there are no AI edits to update as you can see by the no yellow icon. Seems to be triggered anytime you apply a mask to a file. Have tried the multiple file updating AI edits for all files and that does not work either. It doesn't do it with my other Sony and Nikon raw files. Have had others with Lightroom desktop try the same workflow and are receiving the same error, so there seems to be some raw file compatibility issue.
Would like to confirm with other A7RVI users also if they are experiencing this issue or not when editing their raw files with mask and exporting. Appreciate your input! Thank you. ...Show more →
I've been using Sony Alpha cameras since 2017 when I got my Sony A7RIII, followed by RIV and RV. I've spent lots of time setting up each one for my uses, mainly landscape and nature with some family and events as well.
I was hoping that Mark Galer's Camset would make the setup of my new A7RVI easier but... as wonderful as it is, and as much useful information as he shares in his e-book, I still spent hours setting up the A7RVI. His priorities seem to be somewhat different than mine. I'm glad I joined his Patron group but the camset was definitely not a quick fix. I'm sure it's a godsend for some, just not for me.
doc4x5 wrote:
I was hoping that Mark Galer's Camset would make the setup of my new A7RVI easier but... as wonderful as it is, and as much useful information as he shares in his e-book, I still spent hours setting up the A7RVI. His priorities seem to be somewhat different than mine. I'm glad I joined his Patron group but the camset was definitely not a quick fix. I'm sure it's a godsend for some, just not for me.
Same for me....good e-book but the PAL workflow is not for me (albeit on the A1 II)...😎
Douglas L wrote:
Adorama and two of my local dealers are showing they have them in stock too. I am a bit surprised as well. Maybe a lot of the folks who bought the A7RV feel the A7RV is more than good enough for what they shoot and are not convinced they need the speed improvement of the A7RVI , and the A1II crowd are not going to get the A7RVI to replace their A1II because the A1II is still better for fast actions due to the faster sensor speed and AF calculation. It's purely my speculation. Or it's simply because the initial shipment was very large......Show more →
Could be several factors at work here:
One, I think, is that more people are realizing that they don’t have to get every upgrade model. Yes, the newest thing often has features that surpass the previous thing, but the difference to your photography is often small and sometimes pretty insignificant, especially when considered on a value for the dollar basis.
Another is that the economy is having some issues right now that can affect sales. There’s a general unease about inflation, and real world facts of concern — the recent tariff-related price increases, the cost issues with petroleum products, secondary issues with things like food costs. This has at least some effect on the public’s willingness to spend on things like cameras.
On top of that, many people looking at the pricing of the new camera may pause. And then they may pause again when they think about added costs like new batteries, new memory cards, new accessories like L-brackets, etc.
It also may be that Sony has just done a better job than usual (for them or other companies) of getting a lot of product into the release pipeline.
(None of what I write is meant as a criticism of Sony or of the new camera.)
I think it's more from having enough to effectively support initial demand than slow purchasing. It's not inexpensive but reading the gear lists some rattle off with multiple bodies and multiple multi-thousand dollar lenses, it's not, for many, that expensive.
The bracket makers need access to the final form and the good ones probably had design features in mind waiting fit details, the "copiers" need something to copy...
