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p.1 #1 · R7II Rumours


I know there is another thread on this issue. But I want to add some meat to the rumour discussion.

New Rumours are:
1) 39Mpx
2) BSI
3) Possibly stacked sensor
4) >=30fps
5) Digic Acclerator would make the a/f as good as r5ii
6) Read speed as fast as r5ii perhaps 1/400 or 2.5ms
7) Likely IBIS, CFExpress B, bigger buffer, variable fps, Clog2 to go with 39mpx 8k video, better ergonmics buttons.
8) Anoucement in May?
9) More than $2000 USD.
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3eEkH_ALcg

New rumours, from the same site, suggest that r7ii might not have digic acclerator reducing its a/f ability.

For reference, the r7 orginal is a great camera in 15fps efcs (14bit, 3ms read speed), but has features:
1) Slow read speed of 30ms or about 1/30/s in electronic means that angular movements in long lens eg 600mm are too magnified to be useable in electronic because of low read speed distortion.
2) Sensor defraction per 32mpx aps abpve f5.6 stops meaning 32mpx could only be fully used at f5.6 or lower.
3) too much vibration and noise with mechanical and efcs
4) Precapture was in a big file with lots of frames and hard to work with
5) low buffer) but at high iso craw is just as good anyway. eg raw=craw >=1,000 iso.)
6) No 8k , no 4k 60?... I don't care. I have the R5ii for video.

I have the r7, and really like it for reach in good light, or hero reach on my 600f4, but I don't like the read speed.

For me, I will swap out my r7 for r7ii, if
1) read speed is improved so that electronic is useful

The rest of the issues are less important but I would be worth lots more $$ if:
1) Precapture was implemented like R5ii
2) CFexpressB slot was implemented
3) A/f was improved

I am not a fan of the 39mpx. I just exxacerbates the defraction wastes the resolution unless you have a f4 lens -- for the sake of 8k that most professionals would use with the R5II, rather than the R7 anyway. eg r7ii will have defracton above f4 meaning that 200-800 and 100-500 (both f7 at 500mm and rising above 500mm to f10) will only achieve the equivalent of eg 24mpx anyway. Moving from 32 to 39mpx, also slows down iso performance, fps, a/f, a/f unless done well. But as long as it does not reduce r7ii by another stop, I would still buy it.


What are your minimum requirements to buy R7II? I am asking because I will have to decide quickly (pay deposit maybe) to get the first batch of R7ii if it comes.




Mar 30, 2026 at 02:08 PM
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p.1 #2 · R7II Rumours


I had the R7 for a while and just couldn't like it. File quality was noticeably worse than my R5"s. When reviewing images I immediately know they were from the R7. Rolling shutter was awful. Really hated the ergonomics. Stick with what has worked. I'll be on the sidelines waiting for trusted reviews but image quality and rolling shutter and design changes would be vital for me


Mar 30, 2026 at 03:07 PM
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p.1 #3 · R7II Rumours


AF, sensor IQ, rolling shutter, ergonomics. But I gave up on a quality crop from Canon since I had the 7d.


Mar 30, 2026 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #4 · R7II Rumours


I am another skeptic, haha. I actually returned an R7 due to shutter shock issues, even before I was aware of rolling shutter and the impact of slow readout speeds on AF consistency.

But, I feel like change is in the air! Some would say that Canon exceeded expectations with the R6III, and the rumored specs on the R7II are promising. Maybe they will surprise us.



Mar 30, 2026 at 04:16 PM
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p.1 #5 · R7II Rumours


By the time of preorder the specs will be known so I'm not seeing the concern.
That's a video company so not of much interest to me, being all stills. I doubt the readout time will be better than the R5 II which is 1/160th. I'm not so concerned about diffraction, but a really good 32MP sensor without AA might have been a better choice.

The bottom line is that if this camera comes to fruition it be disappointing in multiple ways, but enough better than the R7 for many people to buy it anyway.


EBH



Mar 30, 2026 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #6 · R7II Rumours


Resolution and diffraction aren't much of a concern - the main reason for higher resolution is that it allows for better noise reduction beyond higher acuity with 'faster' lenses.

It'll also be the first new APS-C sensor from Canon, all current APS-C sensors are holdovers that were used in DSLRs where read speed wasn't really an issue.

Here's hoping that the camera improves in ways that the 7D/II and R7 never could for APS-C; great AF plus great image quality. I've said elsewhere that just having the new sensor shoved into an R6 III body with the same firmware and processing capabilities would be enough.



Mar 30, 2026 at 06:55 PM
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p.1 #7 · R7II Rumours


johnctharp wrote:
Here's hoping that the camera improves in ways that the 7D/II and R7 never could for APS-C; great AF plus great image quality. I've said elsewhere that just having the new sensor shoved into an R6 III body with the same firmware and processing capabilities would be enough.


Heck, I'd be happy with an APS-C sized sensor punched out of an R5/2 sensor, dropped into an R6 body, and sold for whatever lower price the small sensor results in.



Mar 30, 2026 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #8 · R7II Rumours


It makes no sense to produce a low-res sensor for the R7 II unless it has some special property like being globular.

EBH



Mar 30, 2026 at 07:29 PM
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p.1 #9 · R7II Rumours


EB-1 wrote:
It makes no sense to produce a low-res sensor for the R7 II unless it has some special property like being globular.

EBH


I just don't want ISO 16k to look like a blizzard.



Mar 30, 2026 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · R7II Rumours


ISO 3200 looks terrible without NR, never mind 16K. You need larger pixels or a lot of NR, and NR does like pixels and sharp images.

EBH



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p.1 #11 · R7II Rumours


I guess I'm a contrarian, I like my R7, its control ergonomics, and its IQ. I like the smaller RF-S lenses from Canon and Sigma. Rarely use electronic shutter, and EFCS works fine for me. Haven't seen any shutter shock issues in my use. Never use ISOs above 3200 and those clean up nicely in LR. When I use precapture, I look through the images in-camera and extract those I want to raw. My first R7 is nominally my wife's, but I was using it enough I bought my own to avoid conflict.
I suspect the R7II will be bigger and heavier. If I want bigger and heavier, I'll use my R5.



Mar 30, 2026 at 08:07 PM
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p.1 #12 · R7II Rumours


Ideally the R7 II controls will be similar to the R5 II and R6 III for consistency when using multiple bodies. We should be able to set one body down, pick up another, and keep shooting. It's enough challenge to keep track of a few Canon, Sony and Nikon.

EBH



Mar 30, 2026 at 11:30 PM
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p.1 #13 · R7II Rumours


Mike_5D wrote:
Heck, I'd be happy with an APS-C sized sensor punched out of an R5/2 sensor, dropped into an R6 body, and sold for whatever lower price the small sensor results in.


I ended up just getting an R5II instead of the R6III as my APS-C cropper. I like the option to shoot APS-C crop at a decent resolution when I'm delivering SOOC jpeg files and have set pressing the function button on my longer lenses to immediately flip between FF and crop.

With the R7II, I agree with the sentiment to basically drop it into an R5II/R6III body, for the UI consistency. Though there are differences between the R5 and R6 series bodies, in respect to build quality.

For me to be interested in the R7II, it would have to be stacked with decent readout speed, at least comparable to the R5II. None of this semi-stacked business we're seeing from Sony/Nikon that only equals what Canon can extract from FSI sensors in the R6II/R6III.

If it's 39MP, I'd like to see a native option to output full image, lower resolution RAW files that benefit from oversampling. I'd also like to customize SOOC jpeg output resolution to whatever I prefer, rather than a few options that Canon decides to offer. I'd actually like this with all my cameras. And be able to save/load camera settings to/from the memory card. And the e-shutter frame rate granularity available with the R5II (not sure about the R6III) but missing from the R6II. R5II pre-capture, too.



Mar 30, 2026 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #14 · R7II Rumours


I'm not likely to get the R7 II (I will probably pick up the R7 original as a camera for my wife and a backup camera the few times I need that). To me the R7 looks like a pretty well sorted camera. Here are a few things I would like to see that would get me to upgrade to it sooner:

Bigger EVF: 3.7 M dots with 100% magnification and 120 fps smooth mode would be great and wouldn't increase size much
Top LCD: I really like the top LCD on the R5 II as a way to quickly see shooting parameters without the camera being up to my eye and as I like to often keep the back LCD screen facing inward, the back LCD screen is not a good substitute for me.
Ergonomics: As others have said a set up more like the R5 II would be great, what I would most like to see is the wheel set up at the bottom on the right rather than a D-pad with a Q button above it. They could keep the dial around the joystick, but only as a third dial that can be shut off for those who don't like it.
Sensor: I don't see the need to go to 39 MP, but I suppose they want to add 8K video. I don't think that is a big deal one way or the other. Increasing sensor scan speed would be good even if they can't get it as fast as the 5D II. A 1/125 or 8 ms sensor scan speed would allow electronic shutter use for almost everything.
CFE type B card for at least one slot: If they are going to increase sensor scan speed they will need CFE to increase the speed of clearing the buffer
Back LCD screen: I really like the extra axis of movement on the newer Sony cameras. It lets you turn the screen to any angle and keep it directly behind the camera which is really nice for waist level shooting. I think everyone should copy that.
Keep the weight down: I would love to see the camera come in at less than 625g with battery and card.



Mar 31, 2026 at 07:05 AM
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p.1 #15 · R7II Rumours


rscheffler wrote:
If it's 39MP, I'd like to see a native option to output full image, lower resolution RAW files that benefit from oversampling. I'd also like to customize SOOC jpeg output resolution to whatever I prefer, rather than a few options that Canon decides to offer. I'd actually like this with all my cameras.


There are options for this in nearly all Canon cameras - I assume the point is space / buffer savings, but the biggest constraint here is processing time; anything that isn't hard-coded into the camera's CPU is going to take longer, deprive resources for other functions, and eat more power per shot etc.

So if Canon plans this out ahead, sure, if not... it will be a compromise.

rscheffler wrote:
And be able to save/load camera settings to/from the memory card.


Hell, I'd like to be able to sync the cameras to each other wirelessly - 'homogenize' the settings, in addition to having the settings on the card, and have a web interface available for adjusting 'profiles'.

This is a new thing in the keyboard / mouse space - being able to customize the devices using a web app, one available from the manufacturer's site, but also that can be saved and run locally (it's a web page).

Even better if such a tool were hosted by the cameras and could be used by other devices wired or wirelessly.

Of course multiple profile support would be nice too - being able to have the entire camera customized for specific scenarios (including pre-customized for specific shoots) would be ideal.



Mar 31, 2026 at 10:07 AM
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p.1 #16 · R7II Rumours


Good video at

which concludes:

39mpx, 3ms read speed, cfexpress, 8k.... do not sound credible

CFExpress, 39mpx new, BSI, Stacked all add lots of costs
How will they deal with the heat - bigger body
It would be really costly and canibalize r5...

Likely it will be some kind of compromise to 15ms read speed and a lessor mpx.

Its a good video. One of my favourite youtube channels combining Alaska and photography.



Apr 05, 2026 at 10:38 AM
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p.1 #17 · R7II Rumours


Interesting video. Sounds like the R5s 6s and 7 are already at miracle level.


Apr 05, 2026 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #18 · R7II Rumours


Wouldn't it be something if Canon exceeded expectations?

(I'd argue that they have mostly been doing so with the R5 and R6 series, though all cameras have weaknesses in some areas relative to each other and their competition.)

Recovering 7D and 7D2 fans deserve a break, so I hope Canon brings it, haha.



Apr 05, 2026 at 04:26 PM
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p.1 #19 · R7II Rumours


garyvot wrote:
Wouldn't it be something if Canon exceeded expectations?


I'm not even convinced there will be an R7 II. So my expectations are low.

EBH



Apr 05, 2026 at 07:14 PM
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p.1 #20 · R7II Rumours


Scott Stoness wrote:
Good video at

which concludes:

39mpx, 3ms read speed, cfexpress, 8k.... do not sound credible

CFExpress, 39mpx new, BSI, Stacked all add lots of costs
How will they deal with the heat - bigger body
It would be really costly and canibalize r5...

Likely it will be some kind of compromise to 15ms read speed and a lessor mpx.

Its a good video. One of my favourite youtube channels combining Alaska and photography.


I agree that if it has all of those specs that does not sound credible unless Canon puts it in a whole new price class. Those sepecs quite far exceed the Fuji X-H2S (the only stacked sensor APS-C camera) and that camera costs $2,900. I think with those specs we are talking about a $3,500 camera as the best price for which we could hope.

If we are talking about a $1,600 camera as the R7 is now, I don't think it will have a stacked sensor. At that price range I think we can expect something like:

39 MP, 20ms sensor read speed, no CFE, BSI, 8k video, and perhaps 3.7 MP EVF with 100% magnification. As a current R7 owner, I would think of that as a very nice upgrade and I think that is possible and I think it is the most likely path Canon will take.

If we are talking about a $2,500 camera, then we might get:

24 MP, 6 ms sensor read speed, one CFE slot, stacked BSI sensor, 4k 120P video, 3.7 MP EVF with 10% magnification. That too would be a really interesting camera, but it is at a very different price point. This is similar in specs but just a bit below the Fuji X-H2S.

Bottom line from my perspective is they can increase the resolution or add a stacked sensor, but they can't do both without a major increase in price. Stacked sensors are nice (I very much like my R5 II), but they don't come cheap. I don't think Canon will make the $2,500 version, but they could and that would be interesting and likely signal a stronger commitment to APS-C. It is because I don't see that commitment that I don't think they will build a stacked sensor camera.

They might, and this may not be a bad strategy, build two cameras. The $1,600 version as the 7R II and the $2,500 version as a 7r IIS (or some other moniker to indicate the stacked sensor). I don't think they will go that way, but it would be cool as a consumer to have a choice between these two feasible APS-C cameras and would let them compete pretty well with Fuji in the APS-C space. Building two cameras would let them meet all or almost meet all the rumored specs, just not in one camera.



Apr 05, 2026 at 08:40 PM
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