- Any feedback on using the EF 100mm macro (non-IS) on an IBIS body- or experience on an equivalent combination?
(I don’t find IBIS very impressive at macro distance with this combination.)
- Will it be worthwhile switching to the EF 100mm-L IS or using a tripod be the way forward?
I posted these questions on Canon forum some weeks ago, but did not get many replies. Please bear with me.
Hard to get comments in here, but the non-IS macro worked for years for people. With an IBIS body, that is better than a macro with no stabilization at all.
What shutter speed are you shooting at, because that will be the determining factor. The 1 over focal length old adage probably doesn't apply, even with IBIS, since you're macro. But try it. Try 1/200sec, or do you know that is too fast for the ISO you want?
If you need a tripod, use one. If you use a tripod, you can disable IBIS. But you didn't say what you are shooting either.
RWNPhoto wrote:
Hard to get comments in here, but the non-IS macro worked for years for people. With an IBIS body, that is better than a macro with no stabilization at all.
What shutter speed are you shooting at, because that will be the determining factor. The 1 over focal length old adage probably doesn't apply, even with IBIS, since you're macro. But try it. Try 1/200sec, or do you know that is too fast for the ISO you want?
If you need a tripod, use one. If you use a tripod, you can disable IBIS. But you didn't say what you are shooting either....Show more →
You have summed it up. All it comes down to the needed shutter speed.
True, people have been shooting without IS lenses for ages. For an example; Canon’s EF180mm macro was released back in 1996, and still, we don’t see its IS upgrade.
I go out and shoot anything that interests me. Using as tripod is not always feasible. Therefore, I am wondering if the newer IS versions can be of any help for hand-held macros. But I am inclined to continue using my existing setup (non-IS lens+IBIS body+tripod).
Well, I'd give you IBIS a go with the non-IS lens and see how it goes on a few wanderings, without tripod. If you think it is missing shots, or messing you up, and your shutter/ISO combo was "good enough", then you could explore an IS macro lens...
Just another thing, make sure that the IS lens works WITH the IBIS, to make the total IS even more stabilized.
Max10 wrote:
- Any feedback on using the EF 100mm macro (non-IS) on an IBIS body- or experience on an equivalent combination?
(I don’t find IBIS very impressive at macro distance with this combination.)
- Will it be worthwhile switching to the EF 100mm-L IS or using a tripod be the way forward?
I posted these questions on Canon forum some weeks ago, but did not get many replies. Please bear with me.
I had issues with my Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro IS on the Fuji 100s ii. The Canon 180mmf3.5 Macro was just beautiful on the Fuji.
My images are posted on the Fuji and Macro forums...Last year they were taken.
I used both the IBIS of the camera and the IS of the lens. That might have been the cause of my issues.
I am not blaming the lens or camera for the crappy images.
I have found that the IBIS of the Fuji is wonderful and it will go to very low shutter speeds and render a perfect image.
I have hand tremors so I now need one stabilization mode to get a good image.
I rarely use a tripod for my macro work. Especially in the "field".
Dan
Max10 wrote:
- Any feedback on using the EF 100mm macro (non-IS) on an IBIS body- or experience on an equivalent combination?
(I don’t find IBIS very impressive at macro distance with this combination.)
- Will it be worthwhile switching to the EF 100mm-L IS or using a tripod be the way forward?
I posted these questions on Canon forum some weeks ago, but did not get many replies. Please bear with me.
I found last years shots using the Fuji GFX100s ii and the Canon EF100mm f2.8 IS with Fringer adapter.
Dan
Max10 wrote:
Could you share your setup for hand held macros?
Very simple!
Camera (m4/3), (sometimes + matched x2TC), 50mm macro lens. Maximum magnification 1:2 or 1:1
Two RC, often freestanding, flash guns, one on left, one on right* at 45 degrees to subject, controlled (metered) by master unit (flash off) on hot shoe. *Raised to illuminate top of subject, if required
Manual lens aperture mostly f11. ISO various but typically 400.
For higher magnifications (up to 10:1), no TC, Laowa 25mm f2.8 2.5x-5x ultra macro lens.
Max10 wrote:
- Any feedback on using the EF 100mm macro (non-IS) on an IBIS body- or experience on an equivalent combination?
(I don’t find IBIS very impressive at macro distance with this combination.)
- Will it be worthwhile switching to the EF 100mm-L IS or using a tripod be the way forward?
I posted these questions on Canon forum some weeks ago, but did not get many replies. Please bear with me.
I will modify your post by saying I am 79, have hand tremors and pre-Parkinson symptoms inherited from my father.
Using my macro lenses, Canon, on my dslrs, I had "shake" no matter if lens had "IS" or not. BUT after addressing this with the dslr setup, there is now no shake in many of the frames. "IS" fine..my 180mm Macro, I see the shake.
I bought a Fuji GFX100s ii last Spring. I bought a dedicated adapter. I mounted my Canon 180mm Macro and my 100mm IS macro. The 180 performed most wonderfully! The 100..I had some problems with the lens IS on and the Fuji IBIS on at the same time.
Now I am NOT claiming there was no "operator error" shooting this combo, but it took some shooting to turn off the lenses "IS" and allowing the Fuji to do it "IBIS. All went well..I remounted the Canon 100MM Macro ISA and put the "IS switch" on and found no improved stability issues. It appeared either 1 or the other "IS" was influencing the raw file.
Not a reason to get rid of the dslr lens.
I bought a GF120mm OIS Macro and leave the OIS sw ON. ON or Off, I see no real difference.
Hope this helps.
Dan
I forgot I posted some images, above, with Fuji and EF..you make the comparison.
Dan
I can't find my Fuji and EF1800 images..give some time. I may be off line for a few days and I will post those. They are on the Macro or Fuji GFX forums anyway..
Max10 wrote:
Thanks for sharing your experience, Dan.
I am trying some techniques such as high ISO, continuous bursts, AI servo, etc. to improve keeper rate in hand-held situation.
Will appreciate you posting some images, as you mentioned.
I shoot handheld outside 99.9%....since the tremors started I only use the 100mm IS Macro or the 180mm Macro on the Fuji GFX. I use AF and many times revert to "M" focus to make sure of focus.
When inside I use my 2 Canon ring flashes for better exposures. Prefer the solid ring Canon flash.
