You can certainly make the argument that Digital does have cost involved, albeit mostly due to the purchase of the camera and lens, but you can’t really suggest that shooting film is a cost effective way to preserve memories via images. I think that most have already discovered the king/queen of preserving images at a relatively low price.. the smartphone. Yup, most people don’t use either digital, or analog cameras. At least not when considering the traditional sense of the word ‘camera’.
Yes, the smartphone is most efficient no doubt about that. But the point was not about simply preserving memories though images, rather the actual experience of creating images in a novel away with your friends is the memory itself. It's just continuation of the analog wave to reduce digital proxies and screen time (minus the viewing the scans at the end, though prints in the youth are coming back too).
ftllens wrote:
Yes, the smartphone is most efficient no doubt about that. But the point was not about simply preserving memories though images, rather the actual experience of creating images in a novel away with your friends is the memory itself. It's just continuation of the analog wave to reduce digital proxies and screen time (minus the viewing the scans at the end, though prints in the youth are coming back too).
Where are you getting your info from? I’d like to see how many youths are moving away from showing their images digitally to just prints. I have not seen one single younger person grabbing a photo album and showing off their prints. I’ve seen thousands of youths sharing their images digitally through different social media channels.
chez wrote:
Where are you getting your info from? I’d like to see how many youths are moving away from showing their images digitally to just prints. I have not seen one single younger person grabbing a photo album and showing off their prints. I’ve seen thousands of youths sharing their images digitally through different social media channels.
Photography shops and scenes in primarily east asia, been seeing film camera usage everywhere. Only private Discord groups for digital info flow. Not sure if you're talking about gallery or professional showings. They share prints with their friends every day. I'm actually not on any social media other than here otherwise.
I was in Dōtonbori not so long ago and at and around the main spots I saw more film cameras from all countries more than ever in my life. Naniwa and Tokiwa were just younger folks from 17-25.
chez wrote:
Where are you getting your info from? I’d like to see how many youths are moving away from showing their images digitally to just prints.
I don't think that's what they said - just that printing is something younger people are doing again, not that they're not doing anything else.
chez wrote:
I have not seen one single younger person grabbing a photo album and showing off their prints. I’ve seen thousands of youths sharing their images digitally through different social media channels.
You went in person to all of the youths and asked them to show off their physical photo albums? I don't remember being asked, I would've loved to share mine.
chez wrote:
You can pick up a used digital camera for very little…then there is zero expenses after that…unlike with film developing and scanning.
Cool.
You always show up to these types of threads with the same things to say. People do in fact enjoy their film
Desmolicious wrote:
Chez is the kinda guy who shows up uninvited to an Alfa Romeo Spider club meet.
And proceeds to tell everyone how awesome his Prius is.
Actually it’s a Honda crv…16 years old. And I would never get past the door to such an elite club…heck I don’t even own a single piece of designer clothing…my 10 year old faded cargo shorts along with my stretched t-shirt just won’t cut it.
But don’t let me stop you Desmolicious from hobknobbing with your elite crew and admiring each others cars as you sip your champagne and listen to some classical music. Oh…don’t forget to sling that film camera around your neck as that’s such a chique thing to be seen with these days.
chez wrote:
Actually it’s a Honda crv…16 years old. And I would never get past the door to such an elite club…heck I don’t even own a single piece of designer clothing…my 10 year old faded cargo shorts along with my stretched t-shirt just won’t cut it.
But don’t let me stop you Desmolicious from hobknobbing with your elite crew and admiring each others cars as you sip your champagne and listen to some classical music. Oh…don’t forget to sling that film camera around your neck as that’s such a chique thing to be seen with these days.
Does bragging about your humbleness make you feel better about yourself?
KankRat wrote:
Film photography can be economical. Just take fewer, (but) better photos.
It can definitely be economical, especially with bulk rolling/home dev/home scanning. Also helps that there's a low price floor for gear, I think my cheapest complete setup was $22 total and that got me a relatively modern camera/lens with matrix metering and good autofocus.
One of our local libraries did a summer lecture series entirely on photography a couple of years back covering gear, basic technique, and darkroom/digital post techniques. The two best attended lectures were Buying and Maintaining Film Cameras and Master Chef: Darkroom Edition. They were standing room only with wall-to-wall kids with no gender bias. The rest of the lectures, including mine on the rewards and pitfalls of adaptation and the panel I was on discussing the real differences between higher and lower end gear, were much more sparsely attended and almost exclusively by men over forty.
Regarding this: Oh…don’t forget to sling that film camera around your neck as that’s such a chique thing to be seen with these days.
I kinda think that about .01 percent of the general population would know (or care) about the difference between a digital and a film camera. But even if they did, and wearing a film camera improved one's social status there are quite a few digital "retro-styled" cameras with a strong hipster vibe.
Maybe you are correct, because all these cameras have in common with the film cameras that they imitate are some similar knobs on top and lousy ergonomics and yet the do seem to be pretty popular. Once you peep thru the viewfinder the film vibe is all over, so the appeal looks to be all aesthetics.
. Mmm now I'm thinking about barbeque...