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ilkka_nissila wrote:
There are also reports which show the opposite to be the case, i.e. the 100-400 is sharper than the 70-200 II + 2X both at 400 mm. It's possible shooting conditions can differ and each 2X TC and lens sample may not produce identical results.


It might also be distance related.



Mar 02, 2026 at 07:02 PM
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ilkka_nissila wrote:
There are also reports which show the opposite to be the case, i.e. the 100-400 is sharper than the 70-200 II + 2X both at 400 mm. It's possible shooting conditions can differ and each 2X TC and lens sample may not produce identical results.


Btw, could you please share a link to these reports?

Thank you.

Regards,
Bernard




Mar 02, 2026 at 09:29 PM
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bernardl wrote:
Btw, could you please share a link to these reports?

Thank you.

Regards,
Bernard




Here is one video.



At around 10:14 there is a side-by-side comparison though since these are not test chart photos, it's not an exact comparison. The maker of the video (Jan Wegener) says "the 100-400 has a slight edge in image quality but the differences are marginal." Personally given these two images the 70-200+2X would never get used, because the first impression of the two images the 100-400 image just pops with more clarity, and I can't shake such impressions and don't really want to, either. The 100-400, while a good zoom, isn't a reference lens at 400 mm. In tests, the inexpensive 180-600 beats the 100-400 at 400 mm (see e.g. Steve Perry's comparison), let alone 400/4.5 or 400/2.8. If I buy an expensive lens, it had better produce the best quality that is available within my price range at that focal length.

I should add that while lensrentals show there is significant sample variation in zooms (including lenses like 70-200/2.8 by various makers) where one sample is sharper (than other copies) in a particular area of the frame at a particular focal length and less sharp than other copies in other areas of the frame and/or at other focal lengths, I've never really noticed this in lenses that I've owned. However, where it comes to TCs I've never liked the results from them except well stopped down (which greatly limits their application). It's typical that at the longest focal length you need the fastest aperture so as to be able to freeze movement (as the subject and camera shake is magnified compared to shorter focal lengths), but when you add TCs, you lose aperture and the additional requirement to stop down adds nails on the coffin for me. Additionally there is an effect from the additional glass-air surfaces of the TC which makes me feel a bit like the photos had been shot through a window (slight exaggeration, but probably you get what I mean). It's not just my kit, when looking at printed images from the best wildlife photographers in the world in the WPY book or gallery, I also get the same impression. People use TCs because they have to, to get the shot, but the quality from 2X TC isn't comparable with what is obtained with a prime lens of the correct long focal length. The 1.4X is not bad and sometimes can be hard to tell that it's not a prime lens. TCs have the additional disadvantage that it's quite time-consuming to take them off and put them on because of the caps that are needed, and a lens like 70-200 with TCs is not as quick to change focal lengths from 100 mm to 400 mm, for example than the 100-400mm. Why is this important? If I'm photographing an outdoor concert for example, there is usually a lot of people near me and fiddling with TCs would result in the song ending before I am done switching the TC on/off. A 100-400 can do a whole band view and close-up of a performer in one turn of the zoom ring, more or less. Similarly if I shoot figure skating, in exhibition (theatrical) lighting I prefer the 200/2. The 100-400 is just too slow for that, and resulting images are suffering in quality. In competition lighting I can (just) use the 100-400 and cover a singles skate or ice dance from the end of the rink and while the close-ups at 400 mm f/5.6 are acceptable again they fall a bit behind from ideal quality (there is some noise and/or subject movement blur), but the advantage is being able to cover the performance without switching between setups. Quality-wise I prefer other lenses in this situation (primes or zooms with smaller range, so I can only get some shots but those that I do get will have better quality), but sometimes make the compromise for the coverage. A TC setup would give me neither coverage nor quality in this application. At shorter focal lengths the 100-400 isn't limited to f/5.6, in fact at least my copy is sharpest wide open across the range (at least in the central area of the frame), so I can in many cases shoot the widest shots at f/4.5 which makes it a bit faster than the 70-200 + 2X when the photographer has the TC stuck on the lens because they don't have time or inclination to take it off and put caps on etc. It might be raining or snowing, for example, and fiddling with TCs and caps is no fun. At the short end of the range and in the middle the 100-400 is really very good in image quality and its relative sharpness wide open makes it useful for me.

I recently got the Z 1.4X mostly for use with the 400 mm f/4.5 since some tests show that stopping down 2/3 stops puts it slightly above the 180-600 mm at f/8, and I already had the lens so I figured it would be a cost-effective and allow me to avoid purchasing the 180-600. It is indeed quite good at 560 mm f/8 and I would say the results in bright light are acceptable, but it forces me into a zone where I have to get a lot of shots to get some that are optimally sharp (due to subject movement and slow shutter speed), and this in turn leads to a lot of time spent afterwards on the computer to select shots. This time is away from field time, exercise etc. activities that I enjoy. Thus I would always choose to photograph with a setup where I can do something before taking the shot to ensure success and minimal editing rather than rely on luck and taking a lot of shots at a slower shutter speed. For small birds there isn't much choice if one wants enough depth of field to cover the bird from beak to tail, a small aperture may be needed, and in that case the best quality shots may often be a result of burst shooting, but this something I only do occasionally when there is an interesting opportunity, nature photography without any animal coverage can be a bit boring, so some setup is needed to make the whole a bit more alive.

I know there are a lot of TC users in particular in the wildlife/bird photography community. However, starting from the 70-200 and adding TCs doesn't quite seem like the best recipe in terms of quality you get for your money.



Mar 03, 2026 at 03:22 AM
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p.7 #4 · NIKON Z 70–200mm f/2.8 VR S II Released


What I'm seeing from these videos is that the eventual updated version of the 100-400 is going to be ridiculous.

I also don't quite understand the purpose of the body sleeve. If I want the foot, having the tripod collar makes sense. If I don't want the foot, why would I want the bulk of the sleeve without the foot?

Guess I'll find out when I finally admit I can't live without this. Farewell, sweet 70-200/2.8S....



Mar 03, 2026 at 03:12 PM
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If you're processing/printing...seems unlikely that you'd ever see a tangible difference among any of these lenses with or without tcs. Took me a lot of money and time to figure that out, but it sure was fun learning it.


Mar 03, 2026 at 03:29 PM
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Masque wrote:
What I'm seeing from these videos is that the eventual updated version of the 100-400 is going to be ridiculous.

I also don't quite understand the purpose of the body sleeve. If I want the foot, having the tripod collar makes sense. If I don't want the foot, why would I want the bulk of the sleeve without the foot?

Guess I'll find out when I finally admit I can't live without this. Farewell, sweet 70-200/2.8S....


The sleeve seems designed with 3 objectives in mind:
- protect the mounting surface of the foot from scratches
- make the lens look nicer without the foot
- make it easier to hold

But it seems perfectly possible to live without it.

And yes, agreed that it’s taking an increasing amount of pixel peeping to notice differences btwn the different options. Yet some folks describe the difference within that last one % as if they were day and night.

That reminds me of AF where some folks amplify tiny differences in corner use cases and turn them into absolute show stoppers. Both without mentioning other use cases with opposite results and even less the excellence of both options relative to real world situations and how images are used.

In a context where the move to higher resolution EVFs and 4K screens makes it harder and harder to see differences both during capture and image review. Very ironic isn’t it?

Cheers,
Bernard

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Mar 03, 2026 at 06:11 PM
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ilkka_nissila wrote:
Here is one video.



At around 10:14 there is a side-by-side comparison though since these are not test chart photos, it's not an exact comparison. The maker of the video (Jan Wegener) says "the 100-400 has a slight edge in image quality but the differences are marginal." Personally given these two images the 70-200+2X would never get used, because the first impression of the two images the 100-400 image just pops with more clarity, and I can't shake such impressions and don't really want to, either. The 100-400, while a good zoom, isn't a reference lens at 400 mm. ........

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Generally agreed, though I'd point out I've seen a sample of the 100-400 that had a serious optical problem within about 40 feet toward the 400mm end in which the sharp area of the image gradually reduced until at mininum focus distance it was just a sharp spot in the middle and then mush. The 100-400 I own is very, very solid, a touch better than the 180-600 and good enough on a 1.4 converter to tie the 180-600 natively in optics and perhaps exceed it a touch on autofocus at 560. And, if I'm being picky, that 100-400 is better close-up in the territory of 150-200 than the 70-200 first version. I assume the new version addresses close up -- there's not really a lot to be improved on at infinity -- but that's a big lift for it to pair up with a 2x converter and beat a good 100-400



Mar 03, 2026 at 06:29 PM
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I’ve had both a good and bad copy of the 100–400 and there’s a pretty big difference between them. You’re not beating a good copy with a 2x TC.


Mar 03, 2026 at 07:28 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
I’ve had both a good and bad copy of the 100–400 and there’s a pretty big difference between them. You’re not beating a good copy with a 2x TC.


I found it hard to believe but for me the more salient question just how close is the best example of the 70-200/2x to the best 100-400. For someone like me who only occasionally needs 400 a 2x (which I already own) is a reasonable solution if . . .



Mar 03, 2026 at 09:18 PM
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This resource tests Arca cross compatibility... just not for lens feet yet.
https://www.augenblicke-eingefangen.de/en/What-does-Arca-Swiss-compatible-actually-mean-here/BLOG00002



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I’ve lost my ability to refrain from this lens.


It’s going to ship in late March. I really love the idea of a super-sharp 70–200 with a teleconverter. I had the Sony 70-200 GM II with the 2× and the results were phenomenal, so I don’t see any reason why this setup wouldn’t match that performance.



Mar 06, 2026 at 12:33 AM
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Outstanding wrote:
It’s going to ship in late March. I really love the idea of a super-sharp 70–200 with a teleconverter. I had the Sony 70-200 GM II with the 2× and the results were phenomenal, so I don’t see any reason why this setup wouldn’t match that performance.


Same, but I have managed to temper myself. There’ll need to be a demonstrative difference when photographing action for me to pull the trigger on the new one. I’ve seen the difference in pure AF speed, but I haven’t seen a noticeable difference in actual results re: the number of in-focus photos from a series.



Mar 06, 2026 at 10:52 AM
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Ordered my copy today. Loved the FL-E and Z mount version 1. Upgrading for the small things, the weight, removable collar etc. adds up. If I’m grabbing a 70-200, weight matters, otherwise I’ll lug the 200mm F2 VRII around.

Shipping from Best Buy who doesn’t do priority NPS delivery, but does give me free extended warranty.



Mar 08, 2026 at 09:45 PM
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groob wrote:
Same, but I have managed to temper myself. There’ll need to be a demonstrative difference when photographing action for me to pull the trigger on the new one. I’ve seen the difference in pure AF speed, but I haven’t seen a noticeable difference in actual results re: the number of in-focus photos from a series.


My guess is that the difference will become very visible on the z9II. We'll have to wait a few months to know that for sure.

Cheers,
Bernard





Mar 08, 2026 at 11:55 PM
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bernardl wrote:
My guess is that the difference will become very visible on the z9II. We'll have to wait a few months to know that for sure.

Cheers,
Bernard



I’m curious what makes you say that? An increase in FPS, which could only be kept up with by the new AF motors?



Mar 09, 2026 at 10:59 AM
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groob wrote:
I’m curious what makes you say that? An increase in FPS, which could only be kept up with by the new AF motors?


Apart from the AF motors, AF speed is affected by the algorithms and processing power of the camera. A lot of the time the focusing motor is not going from point A to point B at full speed that the motor could deliver, but there are other things delaying the setting of correct focus. These things are likely to improve in a major new release of the pro flagship camera from Nikon.



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groob wrote:
I’m curious what makes you say that? An increase in FPS, which could only be kept up with by the new AF motors?


I suspected this a while back when the 24-70 V2 was announced and the 70-200 V2 seems to have confirmed this. Both lenses use the voice coil motors originally used in the 400TC and 600TC. I thought those motors would likely be needed to adjust focus much more rapidly, accurately, and at higher frequencies to keep up with a higher FPS body. Thom Hogan confirmed this in a recent post on his site, but notes also that there is a communication protocol that the new bodies and lenses are using in a way that hadn't been taken advantage of in some of the older models (https://www.bythom.com/newsviews/feb24tomar1-2026.html):

Which brings us to the Z part of the Z-mount communications. For instance, there’s a second synchronous serial data stream now, and that appears to be there to manage better focus performance. Nikon is just starting to unleash that themselves, and I believe that one of the Z9II’s new features will be related to that new channel, as well. You have to ask yourself, for instance, why do the 24-70mm f/2.8 S II and 70-200mm f/2.8 VR S II focus faster? Yes, some of that’s the new SilkySmooth focus motor system. But I believe some of the faster focusing is due...Show more



Mar 12, 2026 at 07:28 AM
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Anyone have a clearer idea of when these will ship?


Mar 12, 2026 at 08:53 AM
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Wezre wrote:
I suspected this a while back when the 24-70 V2 was announced and the 70-200 V2 seems to have confirmed this. Both lenses use the voice coil motors originally used in the 400TC and 600TC. I thought those motors would likely be needed to adjust focus much more rapidly, accurately, and at higher frequencies to keep up with a higher FPS body. Thom Hogan confirmed this in a recent post on his site, but notes also that there is a communication protocol that the new bodies and lenses are using in a way that hadn't been taken advantage of in
...Show more

Thanks for sharing. Interesting read and another reason to go for the newer model.



Mar 13, 2026 at 10:06 AM
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Blakehfreeman wrote:
Anyone have a clearer idea of when these will ship?


Nikon Rumors’ latest post says they are expected to ship before 3/27.



Mar 13, 2026 at 10:07 AM
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