ocean2059 wrote:
I believe this will be the first 35mm f/1.4 lens in APO designation. From the image, it seems to be in similar size to the Otus 50mm ML lens.
I agree.
Hoping that if rumor is true that it will be available right away in all 3 mounts.
I would love to have one, but at the price it will likely command I won't be able to consider it for at least five years when the used price drops to something more reasonable
I have the 50/1.4 Otus ML (E-mount) but not the 85/1.4 as I'm sensitive to size, weight and price and anything bigger than the 50/1.4 is going to be challenging on my A7CII and other compact camera bodies that I prefer. 50/1.4 ML is the most expensive lens I own today and anything more costly than that would be a bigger stretch as well.
I would have been more interested in 28/1.4 as well since I'm a 28mm fanatic, but since we now have CV 28/2 and 28/1.5 I'm not feeling the need for more options as much as before.
A 35/1.4 Otus ML is still interesting to me but as I have CV 35/2 AL, 35/1.2 SE, 35/1.4 classic and Sony Zeiss 35/1.4 + Sigma 35/2 (+ a bunch of more exotic options), I'm quite well covered there and I don't love 35mm FL as much as 28mm. If it's the same size, weight and price in Japan as 50/1.4 Otus ML, I could still consider it but perhaps not immediately at launch. Will be interested in trying one out at CP+.
If it's introduced at CP+ for the first time, I think it would be officially released in May or later (Cosina already plans to release 40/2 Septon in March/April and I don't think they'd schedule a new Otus at the same time due to production constraints etc.).
When Zeiss released the dslr Otus 28 many many people balked at it and said it was too big and they wouldn't buy it and it should have been an F2. Many were hoping the next dslr Otus lens that never came would be a 35.
My guess is Zeiss talked with some of their current high profile customers and asked what they wanted next in the ML line and they indicated 35.
The other thought to ponder is would they be able to easily downsize the 28 to a smaller acceptable size on ML and still be F/1.4.
I hoped for a 24-25mm but I would have accepted a 28 or 35.
As to who is asking for this, those businesses and individuals that own current Otus MLs and will purchase it and future Otus lenses.
It's the first of the new Otus ML lenses that I'm a bit interested in, but I don't see myself buying one. I think I'd just prefer an autofocus lens for a 35mm f1.4.
EB-1 wrote:
By high profile customers, do you mean BH and Adormama? I don't know what end user companies would buy more than 1s and 2s ata time.
EBH
Those of us on photography forum sites too often think of individual casual photographers like ourselves or stores selling product. Most of us are not buying Otus lenses nor will we see what production houses are using. We may get a glimpse once and awhile of some photographers and videographers using an Otus on set or in studio but in general we do not get that glimpse or information.
Those I am talking about will buy direct from Zeiss or authorized reseller.
The Otus will be one of the tools in their toolbox.
One area although the lenses are not designed with filming in mind are those involved in video production.
A search on You Tube one can find a few production houses that shoot video with Otus lenses.
Sony, Nikon, Canon are kings when it comes to lenses in terms of sales and they have many professionals that speak volumes of what they use, but others only show final work, of photography and/or video and they do not divulge what they used.
In the end the Otus line is just another tool for photography and video and we on photography forums are not the target audience it is those in professional production whom buy and use discreetly.
burningheart wrote:
Those of us on photography forum sites too often think of individual casual photographers like ourselves or stores selling product. Most of us are not buying Otus lenses nor will we see what production houses are using. We may get a glimpse once and awhile of some photographers and videographers using an Otus on set or in studio but in general we do not get that glimpse or information.
Those I am talking about will buy direct from Zeiss or authorized reseller.
The Otus will be one of the tools in their toolbox.
One area although the lenses are not designed with filming in mind are those involved in video production.
A search on You Tube one can find a few production houses that shoot video with Otus lenses.
Sony, Nikon, Canon are kings when it comes to lenses in terms of sales and they have many professionals that speak volumes of what they use, but others only show final work, of photography and/or video and they do not divulge what they used.
In the end the Otus line is just another tool for photography and video and we on photography forums are not the target audience it is those in professional production whom buy and use discreetly. ...Show more →
So what is the high profile, the socialism media influencers? Most of the people I know with deep pockets that have boatloads of Zeiss and Leica gear, fancy cars, etc. are rather private about it - definitely low profile.
freaklikeme wrote:
Me to our Zeiss lens rep at work. Several times. I think there was a handful of people in the original Otus thread wishing for it as well.
EB-1 wrote:
So what is the high profile, the socialism media influencers? Most of the people I know with deep pockets that have boatloads of Zeiss and Leica gear, fancy cars, etc. are rather private about it - definitely low profile.
EBH
High profile from the perspective of Zeiss. Those Zeiss customers that spend high amounts of money on Zeiss products either directly from Zeiss or through a reseller that has a direct contact at Zeiss. For example a larger video production house likely has a purchaser that will reach out to their contact at Zeiss or the reseller asking for a quote on various Zeiss products they want to acquire.
Zeiss sees them as high profile because they are spending large amounts of money with them. They also might be buying cinema lenses. Zeiss will also consult with these high profile customers asking what products they want to see in the future.
Zeiss and their resellers know who the Zeiss high profile customers because they have a history of purchases. They are the type of customer that would easily be able to request a meeting to discuss needs and larger purchase lots.
Those of us that go to our local dealer buying a lens and slowly build up a small collection of camera lenses are not high profile,
I’m testing the Nano Primes right now (huge bc of casings). And from what I’ve seen of the few comparisons between the 50np and the 50ml I much prefer the 50ml so much so I’ve decided to buy it (skipping the 85 as too big and I can get what I want out of other 85mm lenses).
If the ml 35/1.4 is anything like the np it should be small since the elements inside the np are tiny. However really very reminiscent of OTUS performance.
18/24/35/50/75/100 in the NP set so perhaps we will see overlap in the ML lenses. Frankly they’re all nice enough that I’d be happy with small casing counterparts for mirrorless bodies.
Still nothing beats the SL APO lenses. Nothing even comes close and I really really hate Leica right now for some very poor customer service related reasons plus a bunch of build quality issues I’ve been dealing with.
Yeah, somehow, I don't think I'm the sole driver behind an entire product line. If had that much power, we'd have a Loxia APO-Sonnar 135/4, APO-Makro-Planar 60/2 and 120/2.8, and a Batis APO-Sonnar 180/2.8, since those are the other things I've brought up multiple times.
