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I don’t believe that you must appreciate, or agree with all aspects of a countries laws and traditions, but I do think that if you visit, as a courtesy, you should, best possible, abide by those traditions. For example, in Japan, don’t be loud, wear too much perfume..etc. while taking public transit. If you can’t abide by these traditions, then travel where the environment is more agreeable.

That said, I doubt that these restrictions apply equally to those taking photos with smartphones. If my assumption is true then discretion is what might be in order. Use a small camera, shoot without
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So true. Respect other’s culture or don’t visit the place.



Feb 13, 2026 at 04:07 PM
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I think you just do it; your first option. And deal with any fallout when/if it happens. I mean, for me, I spent a fair amount of time in Germany from around 2000 to 2012 and less frequently until 2020. I initially assumed (yes, my bad) that the situation was similar to the US/Canada where someone out in public didn't have an expectation of privacy. I don't know when stricter privacy laws came into effect in Germany but I remember back around 2009 doing some candid 'street' type photos in Bonn while out with my cousin, who is actually Bundespolizei.
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Refreshingly nuanced opinion.

Fun fact: the law that governs what is and isn’t allowed with photography and related privacy rights in Germany has been in place without massive changes since 1907. Apparently it was put in place after photographers took pictures of the corpse of Otto von Bismarck, causing a scandal - at least that’s the story (and the picture exists).

As you said it’s likely that Social Media has changed people’s attitude toward having their picture taken or in which circumstance. But at least for as long as I can remember (which is not that long compared to others here ) it has always been considered awkward and kind of rude in Germany to take a strangers picture where they are the main subject - hence your cousin‘s reaction. But it’s considered okay (and also legal) as part of a wider scene and hence more accepted in touristy places when people feel it’s not about them.

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Feb 13, 2026 at 04:23 PM
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Out of curiosity, I pulled up some YouTube videos where young YouTubers shoot street in Spain. We’re talking a large camera with extended arms pointed right at the subjects. No seeming concern for the privacy of others and about as overt as you can get short of doing portraits with a 21mm lens. Perhaps a good rule would be to see what young YouTubers do and act accordingly…ie..don’t do what they do.


Feb 13, 2026 at 04:24 PM
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I find I get much stronger cultural images if I ask the person(s) if it’s ok to document what they are doing and then spend hour(s) documenting their day. As you spend time witnessing and understanding their culture, you get a better idea how to photograph them to bring out that culture.

I have no interest in grabbing a quick sneaky shot of someone on the street without taking the time to understand the people.


Sounds like your interests are in genres other than street photography or documentary reportage which is what the OP is referencing.


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Feb 13, 2026 at 04:34 PM
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bwcolor wrote:
Out of curiosity, I pulled up some YouTube videos where young YouTubers shoot street in Spain. We’re talking a large camera with extended arms pointed right at the subjects. No seeming concern for the privacy of others and about as overt as you can get short of doing portraits with a 21mm lens. Perhaps a good rule would be to see what young YouTubers do and act accordingly…ie..don’t do what they do.


No plaintiff, no judge.

The crazy thing about the Spanish law is that technically it’s not publishing the picture that’s illegal, *taking* the picture is. This is far more strict than other countries and quite risky for photographers, even if only publishing with artistic and without commercial intent.



Feb 13, 2026 at 04:34 PM
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Italy has a long history and currently active acceptance of street photography. The laws here do support the right to photgraph in public and the right to publish those photographs for artistic purposes. This includes art books and gallery prints. You do need a release to use someone's image in a commercial context such as advertising. This is very different than some other European countries where such usage along with free speech is under attack. I have never been challenged by an Italian for taking an image. In fact when noticed the most common response is a smile and a
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Sounds rather like the UK.

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm off to Italy.

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Feb 13, 2026 at 05:14 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
Europeans should absolutely be able to enjoy the limits of freedom they have imposed on themselves without the ire or scorn of those more free


It’s not about free and more free in this case, but about which kind of freedom one prefers.



Feb 13, 2026 at 05:25 PM
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I just take the photo first then ask them after if I can keep it cause I thought the scene was beautiful. Usually 1 out of 100 people say please delete and I comply no problem. Asking for permission before makes no sense to me for street, it would shift the genre to portraiture imo.

If it's a large scene or situation where above is impossible I just use AI to swap the faces because my focus isn't their microexpressions but only their whole body action and pose. I just tag AI was used to swap faces only to protect privacy
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Interesting approach, but one I could never take.



Feb 13, 2026 at 05:26 PM
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In an attempt to understand the different viewpoints in this thread, I had a little deep dive with Gemini into the origins and nuances of each.

For what it's worth, here's the summary:

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The "Freedom" Clash
We use the word "Freedom" to mean two scientifically different things. It’s not just about current laws; it’s about deep-seated historical and cultural differences that go back centuries.

Here is an objective breakdown of the two opposing operating systems:

1. The US Model: "Freedom of Action"
The United States is a relatively young nation founded on the rejection of tyranny and the celebration of the individual pioneer.

The Philosophy: Freedom is defined as Negative Liberty—the absence of obstacles. You are free as long as the government doesn't stop you from acting.

The Historical Context: This stems from a "Frontier" mindset. In a vast, open country, anonymity was easy. The greatest threat was a tyrannical government, so the First Amendment became the ultimate trump card.

The Trade-off: The system restricts the Subject (you can't stop me from taking your photo) to empower the Photographer (I have the right to document the world).

The Result: Public space is an open stage. The burden is on the citizen to hide if they want privacy.


2. The European Model: "Freedom of Dignity"
European societies are thousands of years old. Modern privacy laws in places like Germany, Austria, and Spain are reactions to a long history of living in tight quarters under powerful rulers.

The Philosophy: Freedom is defined as Positive Liberty—the presence of control. You are free only if you have autonomy over your own life and identity ("Informational Self-Determination").

The Historical Context:
- Reaction to Power: After centuries of living under Feudal Lords, Absolute Monarchs, or Dictators where the individual was property of the State, the "Private Sphere" became a sacred sanctuary.
- Density: European societies have been densely populated for centuries. Strict social rules and "privacy bubbles" were necessary to maintain peace in crowded spaces.

The Trade-off: The system restricts the Photographer (you can't click the shutter) to empower the Subject (I have the right to be left alone).

The Result: Public space is shared but still personal. The burden is on the photographer to ask for consent.


The "Package Deal" (Why you can't have it both ways)
This is the part visitors often miss. The specific "vibe" you love in cities like Vienna or Munich—the sense of order, safety, and mutual respect—is not an accident. It is the direct result of this social contract.

You cannot have the "relaxed, civilized European atmosphere" without the strict social pressure that maintains it. They are a package deal.

The Bottom Line
When you visit Europe, you aren't entering an authoritarian state; you are entering a society where the Freedom of the Subject to be left alone ranks higher than the Freedom of the Observer to watch them. Neither is "less free"—they just shift the power to a different person.

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Feb 13, 2026 at 05:28 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
I think you just do it; your first option. And deal with any fallout when/if it happens. I mean, for me, I spent a fair amount of time in Germany from around 2000 to 2012 and less frequently until 2020. I initially assumed (yes, my bad) that the situation was similar to the US/Canada where someone out in public didn't have an expectation of privacy. I don't know when stricter privacy laws came into effect in Germany but I remember back around 2009 doing some candid 'street' type photos in Bonn while out with my cousin, who is actually Bundespolizei.
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As far as the fascists are concerned, you are partly right, but I’ve had the same urges in the past with the other side of the spectrum or with police officers being overly aggressive. Extremism is something I truly despise.

More importantly, as a journalist I believe it’s critical that the public sphere can be reported on without limitations. As someone interested in history, I think these restrictions will limit the availability in the future of depictions of candid street scenes.

You’re probably right about how to proceed in general.



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KLaban wrote:
1bwana1, if I was planning a book of portraits in today's world I'd make sure I had written confirmation of rights of use in the form of releases, not only for your peace of mind but also that of your publisher who would be unlikely to proceed with such book without such permissions. If you are self publishing you could be opening a can of self inflicted worms.

Perhaps you need to engage or be prepared to discus options with your lawyer?



That would depend on where the images were taken. In the US, an artist won a suit against him for showing people in their private apartments but from the outside. That’s yet another dimension of privacy.



Feb 13, 2026 at 05:38 PM
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So true. Respect other’s culture or don’t visit the place.


I back off when someone in a place I’m not familiar with asks me not to take their picture (unless it’s a cop and i know I have the right to photograph), but I’d take candid shots anywhere. That said, I generally don’t take pictures of people down on their luck (but I would if I thought that was something important to document and me doing that would help depict a reality).



Feb 13, 2026 at 05:42 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
I'm putting this here because Leicas are typically the 'street photography cameras,' and it's thus more likely to be discussed here than in any thread (I really wish Fred introduced forum threads by genre that are not presentation or gear boards).

Anyway, I used to live in the NYC area. Did street photography there once in a while and focused like a lot of photographers there on the people in the city. For better or for worse, that's what street photography became for me.

Now I divide my time between mostly Austria and Spain. Not only are the streets in
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I am not a lawyer or street photographer, but my understanding in USA, you can photograph pretty much anyone, news doesn't require a model release but selling the photograph does, at least youre supposed to have one. Europe may be more restricted but selling the photo on Alamy probably not really 100% legal even here.

I think it's good advice to consult a lawyer to see if its legal and if not if the consequences concern you. Alamy should know, you'd think they'd go out of business getting sued constantly

I avoid people photography partly because I could get something great i can't use. Galleries, not many people go and do the people photographed know a print got sold. I do a lot of macro, none of the bugs have ever complained lol



Feb 13, 2026 at 06:04 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
Sounds like your interests are in genres other than street photography or documentary reportage which is what the OP is referencing.


Street casts a wide net. Some view as architecture, others as candid images of people and others as cultural images. I’d rather not pinhole what people think street photography is.



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KLaban wrote:
Sounds rather like the UK.

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm off to Italy.

;-)



This is just one example. But Italy is far from free overall by my standards of what it means to be free. The Government is involved in almost all aspects of daily life. I chaffe under this oppression daily. It is so inefficient and bad for production it is beyond comprehension how it got so bad. I believe this lack of freedom is responsible for the average Italian be relatively poor and having little self determination. I more and more lose respect for Italians (Europeans in general too) for tolerating this oppression.



Feb 13, 2026 at 09:45 PM
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fjablo wrote:
In an attempt to understand the different viewpoints in this thread, I had a little deep dive with Gemini into the origins and nuances of each.

For what it's worth, here's the summary:

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The "Freedom" Clash
We use the word "Freedom" to mean two scientifically different things. It’s not just about current laws; it’s about deep-seated historical and cultural differences that go back centuries.

Here is an objective breakdown of the two opposing operating systems:

1. The US Model: "Freedom of Action"
The United States is a relatively young nation founded on the rejection of tyranny and the celebration of the individual pioneer.

The Philosophy:
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Not my experience. You are far less free in Europe for a variety of reasons and on many levels.



Feb 13, 2026 at 09:55 PM
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It's been a while since I've written on this subject. There are multiple threads on the subject dating back over a decade ago.

BUT ... that was me, HERE ... in the U.S.

Simply put ... John, you need to speak with counsel in the country of your shooting. All the logic and rationale of others around the world is worthless when it comes to a given country. Remember the kid who got "caned" in Singapore. The world / U.S. did an outcry ... but, at the end of the day ... NONE of what anybody else "thought" had any bearing on the sovereignty of law in a different country.

Counsel ... or at least have a conversation with the local police department.

At one point in time, I had so many (ill educated) folks complain about me that I became well known by my local police. It got to the point where when folks raised a stink, and threatened to call the police, I offered to call for them.

My point is that those who are best aware of your legal question will be those whose profession (legal counsel / legal enforcement) is based on actual knowledge of a given countries legal matters and legal temperament.

Asking us ... makes for interesting conversation / opinion ... but, that does NOT SAFEGUARD you. I'm sure that a cup of coffee with a police / chief could make a good start to your understanding, about how to conduct yourself well, and still participate in your beloved craft. Legal counsel might cost a bit more than a cup of joe ... but, it could be a valuable investment, also.

HTH




Feb 13, 2026 at 10:11 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
More importantly, as a journalist I believe it’s critical that the public sphere can be reported on without limitations.


I agree 100%!

AmbientMike wrote:
my understanding in USA, you can photograph pretty much anyone, news doesn't require a model release but selling the photograph does, at least youre supposed to have one. Europe may be more restricted but selling the photo on Alamy probably not really 100% legal even here.


News use is considered editorial and in USA/Canada, that does not require permission of the subject in the photo. Editorial would also apply to use for magazine stories, books, etc. Having a model release would ease matters somewhat and reassure some publishers.

Permission (model release, contract for specific use cases, including payment, etc.) is required for commercial use: the photo will be used to promote a business or product, for example.

The gray area in editorial is as I mentioned before: context. Not being required to get the subject's permission doesn't mean a writer can write lies about the person and defame them without consequences for the writer and their publication/client, nor can a photo be used of the subject out of context (for example to illustrate a story that falsely associates the person with something damaging to their reputation that is completely unrelated to the context of the image) without consequences for the publisher and possibly also the photographer.

This is why traditional news/editorial organizations have fact checkers.



Feb 13, 2026 at 10:14 PM
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chez wrote:
I find I get much stronger cultural images if I ask the person(s) if it’s ok to document what they are doing and then spend hour(s) documenting their day. As you spend time witnessing and understanding their culture, you get a better idea how to photograph them to bring out that culture.

I have no interest in grabbing a quick sneaky shot of someone on the street without taking the time to understand the people.


That's a valid approach and amazing for understanding individuals. The spontaneous approach would definitely be under the street genre, but once the immediacy dissipates and you're spending hours that's more documentary/environmental portraiture.

The street photography I do is usually the areas I'm already familiar with and focused on bubbling moments. Usually I would spent about 3-6 months (though sometimes 1-3 years) slowly exploring and immersing myself in that area. Since I usually have a reasonable cultural understanding already my focus is searching for outlier instances that fade in and out quickly.

I don't like the trope of sneaky repetitive shots of people noticing the camera or walking in a beam of light either. But this is not that. When you know the place well, you can blend in like bokeh to everyone else's main-character POV and have a good prediction model on how the subjects will interact with the environment (including other people). You have access to better channels and angles and denoise more common moments with better clarity.



Feb 13, 2026 at 10:25 PM
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Oh, and btw ... I've even had the cops called on my by people who's picture I was NOT taking. Folks called the cops because I was "suspicious" (taking pictures of kids playing soccer with their dad, of all thing). Just to be clear ... it wasn't the family that called ... they were actually ecstatic that I had captured some nice pics for them. It was somebody else who felt compelled to jack up my mojo.

The list of stories is long (over many years), but there will always be folks (in today's environment) who take objection to us. There was a time (40 years ago) when folks found us intriguing ... now, we are more of a mark (for some). I won't pretend to know didley, jack, squat about the legal environment abroad ... but, I do know human nature and there's always someone, somewhere looking to ruin someone else's day.

To what degree you place yourself in that line of fire ... there should be a corresponding degree of protection / understanding. When you need a pro, get a pro ... find a pro (in your country) that can guide / steer / protect you in a way that we cannot. Would if I could ... but, can't.

Gotta punt this to expertise in your country.




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