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Approach to photographing people in the street

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p.4 #1 · Approach to photographing people in the street

ftllens wrote:
That's a valid approach and amazing for understanding individuals. The spontaneous approach would definitely be under the street genre, but once the immediacy dissipates and you're spending hours that's more documentary/environmental portraiture.

The street photography I do is usually the areas I'm already familiar with and focused on bubbling moments. Usually I would spent about 3-6 months (though sometimes 1-3 years) slowly exploring and immersing myself in that area. Since I usually have a reasonable cultural understanding already my focus is searching for outlier instances that fade in and out quickly.

I don't like the trope of sneaky repetitive shots of...Show more →

Can you post some of your images�would love to see them. I have this image in my head of these candid street photos that all look the same�would love to see your approach and how the outcome differs.

Feb 13, 2026 at 10:40 PM

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p.4 #2 · Approach to photographing people in the street

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I am not a lawyer or street photographer, but my understanding in USA, you can photograph pretty much anyone, news doesn't require a model release but selling the photograph does, at least youre supposed to have one. Europe may be more restricted but selling the photo on Alamy probably not really 100% legal even here.

I think it's good advice to consult a lawyer to see if its legal and if not if the consequences concern you. Alamy should know, you'd think they'd go out of business getting sued constantly

I avoid people photography partly because I could get something...Show more →

I didn't start this thread to ask for legal advice or a discussion about freedoms, but to hear how other people may have dealt with such a shift in the circumstances surrounding their street photography. I will only comment briefly on other people's posts and not go deeper into a discussion I'm not seeking.

So, on the quoted post: the rules for commercial use are basically the same in the US and Europe and to my knowledge have not changed for a long time. For commercial use, you always need a model release. On Alamy, you therefore have to include the model release if you indicate an image is available for commercial use and has a recognizable person in it.

Feb 14, 2026 at 05:49 AM

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p.4 #3 · Approach to photographing people in the street

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This is just one example. But Italy is far from free overall by my standards of what it means to be free. The Government is involved in almost all aspects of daily life. I chaffe under this oppression daily. It is so inefficient and bad for production it is beyond comprehension how it got so bad. I believe this lack of freedom is responsible for the average Italian be relatively poor and having little self determination. I more and more lose respect for Italians (Europeans in general too) for tolerating this oppression.

I'm not even going to go there. I doubt many Italians see it as oppression.

Feb 14, 2026 at 05:52 AM

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p.4 #4 · Approach to photographing people in the street

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It's been a while since I've written on this subject. There are multiple threads on the subject dating back over a decade ago.

BUT ... that was me, HERE ... in the U.S.

Simply put ... John, you need to speak with counsel in the country of your shooting. All the logic and rationale of others around the world is worthless when it comes to a given country. Remember the kid who got "caned" in Singapore. The world / U.S. did an outcry ... but, at the end of the day ... NONE of what anybody else "thought" had any bearing on...Show more →

I know the law. It was actually an Austrian officer who told me that I can shoot whomever I want in the street and they cannot complain about it. He just said he wasn't sure I could then also publish that image. (the same fellow said that after the police that the demonstrators they weren't allowed to cover their faces, that one of them sitting in the truck with the speakers could continue to wear her mask because the car was considered private space...)

But you know that there is just no way that if these two conflicting fundamental rights (the right to privacy in public or the right to one's own image vs the right of free speech/expression and protection of journalism) ever clash in a serious way, that anyone will have a simple answer. But that's another discussion.

Feb 14, 2026 at 05:58 AM

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p.4 #5 · Approach to photographing people in the street

chez wrote:
Can you post some of your images�would love to see them. I have this image in my head of these candid street photos that all look the same�would love to see your approach and how the outcome differs.

I second Chez's request. Partly because I'm really skeptical of any photographer who claims that they're so immersed in a place that no one notices them.

Feb 14, 2026 at 06:04 AM

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p.4 #6 · Approach to photographing people in the street

johnvanr wrote:
I'm not even going to go there. I doubt many Italians see it as oppression.

Actually they pretty much univesaly recocognize the out of control beaurocracy here. They realize the damage that it is doing to them economically, the difficulty it creates in daily living, and the lack of opportunities it creates. They are just too socialized and too cowardly to do something meaningful about it.

Feb 14, 2026 at 06:28 AM

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Absolutely no chance of me blending in. I'm white, shooting in North Africa and India!

Feb 14, 2026 at 06:32 AM

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johnvanr wrote:
I know the law. It was actually an Austrian officer who told me that I can shoot whomever I want in the street and they cannot complain about it. He just said he wasn't sure I could then also publish that image. (the same fellow said that after the police that the demonstrators they weren't allowed to cover their faces, that one of them sitting in the truck with the speakers could continue to wear her mask because the car was considered private space...)

But you know that there is just no way that if these two conflicting fundamental rights (the...Show more →

Gotcha ... although the officer's knowledge about whether or not you can publish, still represents a gap.

In U.S. the matters of artistic liberty, free speech, commercial use, editorial, etc. bring complexity of intent / use in to play. As to other countries, no clue what their laws read ...

An article from 2013, interesting in a variety of ways.
https://www.dorda.at/sites/default/files/Protecting_ones_image_Supreme_Court_issues_controversial_ruling.pdf

Excerpt from Wiki (general discussion, not legally thorough):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_consent_requirements

Austria
Taking a picture of a person in a public space: Does not normally require consent
Publishing pictures of a person in a public space: Does not in principle require consent, though in many cases it does (see explanation below)
Commercial use of a published picture of a person in a public space: Does not in principle require consent, though in many cases it does (see explanation below)
According to the Austrian Copyright Law[13][14] it is illegal to publish or distribute any picture taken of a person without permission if their legitimate interests are affected. Although you may be legally entitled to publish the picture if the person is not shown in a private situation and the picture is not used in a misleading or derogatory context or for publicity purposes, this would be illegal if the person successfully claims violation of their legitimate interests.[15] Therefore it is strongly recommended[16][17] to obtain permission from the person depicted in the photograph, unless their appearance is merely accidental and not incriminating or it is a Person des �ffentlichen Lebens (public figure). It is not allowed to publish or distribute pictures which could reveal intimate life details or private information without interest for the public even if the photo was taken in a public space and shows people well known in the public sphere (e. g. Minister kissing a lady at the airport[17]).
In 2013, the Supreme Court (Oberster Gerichtshof) ruled that under certain circumstances, even just taking photos of people can violate their general personality rights. In that case, a person took a photo of a lawyer visiting their house and, when asked to explain the reason, responded that they took the photo "for amusement" (zur Belustigung). The court ruling did however affirm that cases where a person's presence on the photo is merely incidental can be considered differently.

As I've been reading, some of the key components reside in (highly subjective) aspect of the parenthetical condition(s), such as "if their legitimate interests are affected".

Multiple articles (not legal source) inferred that even "dining" could be considered "intimate life details".

Clearly, not a clear answer exists regarding the matters of "interests" and "affected" and "intimate" ... finding that balance isn't a precise thing ... particularly as the social temperament pendulum continues to swing, to and fro throughout time.

Not much (direct) help for ya John ... but, I certainly feel ya.

Feb 14, 2026 at 09:23 AM

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I second Chez's request. Partly because I'm really skeptical of any photographer who claims that they're so immersed in a place that no one notices them.

My .02 was that there's a matter of people becoming "conditioned" to seeing the same person over an extended period of time. Imo, that's not quite the same thing as not being noticed. It's more a matter of being dismissed as a threat / concern.

I've spent time in some "seedy" areas, and when you first show up, folks are highly suspicious of you. With repetitive exposure and consistent benign activity of non-interest toward people in the area, they "lower their guard". Once that guard is reduced, things can develop from there. Imo, developing your presence over time and "lowering the guard" of folks in that area is a different matter from becoming "fully immersed" (unnoticeable) into a random event.

Not saying right vs. wrong ... just not the same.

Feb 14, 2026 at 09:32 AM

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My .02 was that there's a matter of people becoming "conditioned" to seeing the same person over an extended period of time. Imo, that's not quite the same thing as not being noticed. It's more a matter of being dismissed as a threat / concern.

I've spent time in some "seedy" areas, and when you first show up, folks are highly suspicious of you. With repetitive exposure and consistent benign activity of non-interest toward people in the area, they "lower their guard". Once that guard is reduced, things can develop from there. Imo, developing your presence over time and "lowering the...Show more →

I agree with that, but how is it different from shooting in a way that people don�t realize you�re taking pictures. In both cases the premisse is that the subject is unaware of being documented.

Feb 14, 2026 at 12:01 PM

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Cops really dont know anything on this

Feb 14, 2026 at 12:28 PM

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p.4 #12 · Approach to photographing people in the street

johnvanr wrote:
I agree with that, but how is it different from shooting in a way that people don�t realize you�re taking pictures. In both cases the premisse is that the subject is unaware of being documented.

Being Aware + Care
Being Aware + Doesn't Care

Feb 14, 2026 at 12:54 PM

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AmbientMike wrote:
Ive been harassed by cops before here in TX. One time as a tour went by, I'm sure none of the tourists had a camera

Cops really dont know anything on this

In some regard, cops have a due diligence to inquire / investigate ... but, my experience has largely been that SOMEBODY other than the cops, called the cops in with their complaint (out of ignorance).

I think the most flagrant experience I had was in a parking lot after I had just purchased a new SD card and was taken some test shots (signs, cars, etc.) while standing next to my car. I proceeded to "putz" around in my car, so I was there for a few, when I had city, county and state patrol officers, as well as a detective (7 officers in total, iirc) surround my vehicle. The complaint had been from some woman that I had been taking pictures of her. I never even took a single picture of a person.

Fortunately, the detective was himself a photographer ... and he "educated" the others. Still, a mojo kill. I've got a wide variety of stories ... but, the common factor is (beside it being me) is that they have all occurred in the 21st century. During the 20th century, I had a total of ZERO incidents that come to mind. Imo, this has been a paradigm shift in society that has absolutely NOTHING to do with MOST photographers, but rather the paradigm shifting attitudes that have developed in society.

My most recent was an outing at a horse venue. Someone complained that I had pointed my camera at a horse (down on the track) and how inappropriate it was for me to do that. She was accosting me as being exploitive of someone's child for my own gain. Never mind, she never considered that I might have been capturing the last images ... good news, the horse got up on it's own.

It wasn't long before "security" visited me and required me to quit shooting with any of my long glass. Never mind that security had checked my bag when I came in and we had a pleasant discussion about my gear.

Point being ... it isn't security / cops ... it's people getting security / cops to do their bidding for them. And, that bidding is largely built upon their own (ridiculously errant at times) perceptions, rather than actual understanding of what is within the legal realm of photographers.

Feb 14, 2026 at 01:04 PM

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1bwana1 wrote:
Actually they pretty much univesaly recocognize the out of control beaurocracy here. They realize the damage that it is doing to them economically, the difficulty it creates in daily living, and the lack of opportunities it creates. They are just too socialized and too cowardly to do something meaningful about it.

I'm not sure this is the place to talk about it but each country has such problems. For instance, it is very hard for an european to understand why americans accept to end up bankrupted because they are sick, why they spend twice as much relative to GDP in health for a life expectancy 4 years shorter.

Bureaucracy is a PITA indeed and they are many things I do not like in Europe but being free is not only an economic issue. And Europe is still in the top of the charts when it comes to GDP per capita.

Anyhow, I've worked in the US, (even worse, in Texas) and spent a lof of time there from Utah to NY. I like this country but I'd rather live and raise my children in Europe. And I did.
I just wish we would be able to solve some of our problems. Just like I wish the US would.

Feb 14, 2026 at 02:23 PM

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Short answer for street photography in Europe: if in doubt, don't.
I have for reasons mentioned in the OP fully given up on street photography in Germany. Not only because of the law but also because of increased crime and aggression potential there. Yes, it is bad in large cities there! I don't even use my Leica cameras there anymore - too risky. I could go on with examples but this wouldn't align with the FM forum policy.

I live in Hamburg and do not find the crime part true, but the feeling of security everyone has is very subjective (For example, it is extremely unlikely to meet someone with a gun in Germany, unless he is a police officer with at least 2 to 2.5 years training).

Yes you need consent, if you want to publish fotos of someone on the internet, but only if he/she features prominently. If you take pictures of public spaces and people wander into your image it shouldn�t be a problem. The more people, there are in your picture, the better. The intent of your image plays a role. If it is to depict a certain person, you need consent. If it is the public building that features prominently, then you may definitively shoot that (different from France).

In addition, nobody could care less, if you decorate your private walls at home with the street art you shoot, or if you show it as a souvenir to your friends. Publishing requires more attention.

Finally, damages that can be claimed are by no way as excessive as in the US. If your picture features prominently on the first page of an international newspaper, damages might be higher. Publishing it on some obscure (for the general public) foto site like Fredmiranda with a very selective viewer group, a claimant might have difficulties convincing a judge that there were any damagesat all, but you could be requested to take the picture down.

Feb 15, 2026 at 01:37 PM

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I found the following on Perplexity concerning the situation in Germany and I feel it reflects the practice I encounter in real life reasonably well.
But there is another aspect: people have become more sensitive about being photographed and appearing somewhere on the Internet without their consent is something people often do not agree with. So in practice the real laws are mostly not as strict as what some people believe they are. Enforcement more often than not comes at the request of the person photographed, thus getting a good rapport with your subject after the shot gets you far in diffusing tensions.

PERPLEXITY:
Yes, in Germany, it is generally allowed to photograph people on the street or in public spaces, as long as no special protected zones or situations are violated.[law +2]
Key Rules for Photography
Taking images in public falls under the panorama freedom (� 59 UrhG) and is not punishable under � 201a StGB, which only prohibits shots in homes, protected areas, or of helpless individuals. Secretly photographing intimate or embarrassing situations (e.g., accident victims) can, however, be criminal.[streetphotographyberlin +5]
Restrictions on Publication
No consent is needed for private use (e.g., personal collection), but publication (online, exhibitions, commercial) is governed by the Art Copyright Act (KUG, � 22 ff.): Consent is required for identifiable main subjects, unless they are incidental (e.g., background figures in cityscapes) or involve current events/celebrities. GDPR applies to personal data but doesn�t require prior consent for mere photography�only for processing/distribution.[kummuni +4]
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Yes, in Germany, it is generally allowed to photograph people on the street or in public spaces, as long as no special protected zones or situations are violated.[law +2]
Key Rules for Photography
Taking images in public falls under the panorama freedom (� 59 UrhG) and is not punishable under � 201a StGB, which only prohibits shots in homes, protected areas, or of helpless individuals. Secretly photographing intimate or embarrassing situations (e.g., accident victims) can, however, be criminal.[streetphotographyberlin +5]
Restrictions on Publication
No consent is needed for private use (e.g., personal collection), but publication (online, exhibitions, commercial) is governed by the Art Copyright Act (KUG, � 22 ff.): Consent is required for identifiable main subjects, unless they are incidental (e.g., background figures in cityscapes) or involve current events/celebrities. GDPR applies to personal data but doesn�t require prior consent for mere photography�only for processing/distribution.[kummuni +4]
Practical Tips
Shoot openly from a pedestrian perspective without aids like drones. Artistic freedom (Art. 5 GG) often prevails in disputes. House rules apply in stores or private property, where photography can be prohibited.[allaboutberlin +4]

Feb 15, 2026 at 06:01 PM

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I fully understand. Much of my enjoyment of the good parts of Europe is greatly diminished by Government over reach and lack of freedom here.

Yes, I really agree wih this - worldwide! ☺️

As a German I never understood, why you cannot just drive as fast as your car takes you (on motorways outside Germany). Why all these arbitrary speed limits on completely straight sections, if you are a responsible driver? (Especially in the USA).
What a time saver, if you could just zip between the cities, as fast as your Porsche, Ferrari or Lamborghini takes you. I mean, look, these cars were built for speed. What is the issue? 😉

Since the 70ties the beetle could go faster than the customary US 70 to 80mph limit (I know somewhere on a toll motorway in Texas you may go 85, how pathetic). The last beetles could do 140mph on the German autobahn�

Modern cars can do so much more:

260 mph, legally - freedom, without Government over reach.

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When I was young the Western US used to have States with no daytime speed limits. All gone now.

I would guess that I am more comfortable at very high speeds than most people, including most Germans. Still I recognize that the skill level of almost all drivers is not adequate to drive at high speed. I don't trust them. I therefore do not tend to drive very fast on public roads. Yes, even in Germany.

I think I may have received lass than 5 driving tickets in my more than half a century driving in the US. Due to the arcane systems in Italy I have received dozens of tickets in the six months I have lived in Italy. This is entirely due to a beurocratic mistake made by the Government here. They miss entered my car registration details in their database. Because driving laws are primarily enforced by cameras here this resulted in my getting ticket almost every time I drove. The lengths I have had to go to in order get their error sorted out has been crazy. Even though the people in the agency admitted to making the mistake the beurocracy didn't allow them to correct it easily. I ended up having to take over the Mayors elevator to his office and get surrounded by police with guns. But in the end they agreed to fix it. It took just a few minutes. Now the tickets have stopped. Then I had to go to the Courthouse and hold a strike with signs and loud music in order to get them to address the already issued tickets. After that drama they have agreed to suspend enforcement of the tickets pending a court date in 6 months. This even though all agencies and the Judge that will hear the case agree that dismissal will be the end result. But they must go through this beaurocratic process to get it done. They have little respect for justice and the rights of individuals here. My Italian friends say driving tickets are just a cost of driving here and I should just accept it and pay the fines when they come. I refuse, and continue to fight them. This is oppression by definition, and the American in me will never accept or comply with it.

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1bwana1 wrote:
When I was young the Western US used to have States with no daytime speed limits. All gone now.

I would guess that I am more comfortable at very high speeds than most people, including most Germans. Still I recognize that the skill level of almost all drivers is not adequate to drive at high speed. I don't trust them. I therefore do not tend to drive very fast on public roads. Yes, even in Germany.

Recent Statistics
US total traffic deaths reached 40,901 in 2023 (1.26 per 100 million vehicle-miles overall), with Interstate fatalities historically around 4,700-5,800 annually in the 1990s-2000s. Germany�s Autobahn deaths were far lower at 430 in 2010 and 409 in 2017.[iihs +3]
Rate Comparison
US Interstates had rates of 1.19 (rural) and 0.65 (urban) fatalities per 100 million vehicle-miles in 1994, improving to similar levels by 2002�equating to roughly 11.9-6.5 per billion vehicle-miles. Converted similarly, German Autobahns average about 1.67 per billion vehicle-miles without speed limits (0.95 with), making them safer per mile traveled.

Germany�s lower absolute fatalities reflect engineering and driver behavior. European rankings confirm German Autobahns as relatively safe.

Feb 15, 2026 at 08:10 PM

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1bwana1 wrote:
I think I may have received lass than 5 driving tickets in my more than half a century driving in the US. Due to the arcane systems in Italy I have received dozens of tickets in the six months I have lived in Italy. This is entirely due to a beurocratic mistake made by the Government here. They miss entered my car registration details in their database. Because driving laws are primarily enforced by cameras here this resulted in my getting ticket almost every time I drove. The lengths I have had to go to in order get their error...Show more →

Aah, bella Italia.
But you can shoot pictures in public more freely. Every country has its soul.

Feb 15, 2026 at 08:29 PM

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