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p.2 #1 · Olympic Speedskating - Jutta Leerdam


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Back in the 1988 Olympics here in Calgary, I was using my FD glass and they never blinked once with me bringing in the FD 400/F4.5. I never brought monopods, etc, just camera and lenses. No problem to seating areas of arenas or at the ski hill, ski jump, bobsleigh runs. Even the opening and closing ceremonies there was no issues. They would search the bag and send me through


I took a Canon T-70 with 70-210mm for Hockey and they had no issues at the Saddledome. The best part was when a SI photographer saw me walking by and invited me into the press box and handed me a spare 300 f/2.8 to shoot the entire 3rd period for USA vs Soviet Union.



Feb 12, 2026 at 09:51 AM
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ilkka_nissila wrote:
Who make millions of dollars? In most cases the Olympics end up in the red for the cities that host them, i.e. costing more money than is made from the event (long-term). Stadiums and other venues are built for the event and in some cases end up not being used at all after the Olympics are over (the need was only temporary, and the costs excessive). Even when counting the income from tourism, the net return for investment is negative. Many highly experienced professional sports photographers also find it nowadays economically not possible to attend as the fees for freelancers
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The professional sports leagues that have anti camera policies because they're deathly afraid someone will get a decent shot from the stands.



Feb 12, 2026 at 10:55 AM
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p.2 #3 · Olympic Speedskating - Jutta Leerdam


They can do what they want at commercial events. T&C are usually on the tickets or posted online.

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Feb 12, 2026 at 12:05 PM
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ilkka_nissila wrote:
There are multiple points of view to this issue.

In the past people used predominantly cameras with mechanical shutters and mirrors which produced sound that some spectators found distracting especially if fast frame rates are used. Today there are quiet or even silent mirrorless cameras (only a few models really photograph action well in silent operation, and spectators are not all that likely to have those models, accredited pros for sure will). Thus there is a bit less pressure from the other audience members towards not letting spectators take photos freely. However, if someone wields a big telephoto lens then it
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I'm sure its possible to get on people's nerves, but people yell , scream , and display signs larger than a camera. This race only lasted a little over a minute, and I'm sure the Dutch speed skating fans made a lot of noise. So I'm not sure cameras are that annoying, especially compared to some guy shirtless in January in Buffalo (all part of the fun, really) or European fan violence

The Olympics, one top USA curling athlete is a lab tech at her regular job, fortunately she can get time off to practice since its her mother's company. But Dak Prescott makes roughly $60 million/year salary, plus paid endorsements, playing for the $13 BILLION Dallas Cowboys, the guys on their rookie deals dont make anywhere near that, but top defensive players (Micah Parsons, Chloe Kim's bf myles Garrett ) make ~$40 M, Ohtani's contract dwarfs that, check out max NBA deals, as well. So what if a few guys make a few hundred dollars occasionally selling photos, which is basically free pub anyway



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AmbientMike wrote:
The Olympics, one top USA curling athlete is a lab tech at her regular job, fortunately she can get time off to practice since its her mother's company.


On the men's side, a member of the USA team is a 50-something partner at a personal injury law firm here in town. The Wall Street Journal was funny enough to make a slip and fall joke about his changes of actually competing. I guess when you're a law partner, you really can just take any time off you want.



Feb 12, 2026 at 10:43 PM
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Are you referring more about the arena, spectators. etc or more about the city?

In regards of the City I'm not interested as I live a bit more than 1h drive from Milan and I don't particularly like it.


I mean there are always things happening in the spectator zones at major international sporting events that could make for interesting photos as an alternative if access or sightlines for photographing the actual athletes proves to be disappointing.

burningheart wrote:
Back in the 1988 Olympics here in Calgary, I was using my FD glass and they never blinked once with me bringing in the FD 400/F4.5. I never brought monopods, etc, just camera and lenses. No problem to seating areas of arenas or at the ski hill, ski jump, bobsleigh runs. Even the opening and closing ceremonies there was no issues. They would search the bag and send me through


1988 was another time, another place. One that sadly no longer exists in the realm of professional sporting events.



Feb 13, 2026 at 01:50 AM
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Ruffo wrote:
I took a Canon T-70 with 70-210mm for Hockey and they had no issues at the Saddledome. The best part was when a SI photographer saw me walking by and invited me into the press box and handed me a spare 300 f/2.8 to shoot the entire 3rd period for USA vs Soviet Union.


That's a really cool memory/experience. As mentioned though, 1988 was another time, another place. That would be virtually impossible nowadays with all of the security and accreditation layers at venues. At NFL games, for example, facial recognition is now used to control 'behind the scenes' and on-field access to only those who have been preauthorized, in addition to the scanning of credential barcodes, various visual cues such as armbands, wristbands, media vests, etc.

As for who is getting rich: as always, those at the top. I'm not going to blame massive player salaries because without them there would be no games or leagues and they definitely deserve a cut of whatever the general population is willing to pay to attend and consume these sporting events. But that is also exactly why the leagues/owners can't allow some 'Joe' to make a little money on the side off of their 'IP.' They need to have near total control over image distribution, in addition to all other aspects of their operations, so that they can maximize their revenue. While editorial use of images is not as strictly controlled, it's also a drop in the bucket compared to commercial use revenue. And that's where the teams/leagues/owners want their substantial cut of the action. It used to be that a photographer would distribute images through an agency and there would be a 50/50 split of the image sales. The photographer benefitting from the good work they produced and the agency benefitting from their work finding commercial customers for those images. Then ~15-20 years ago the leagues basically said, we are going to take our cut from the agencies' sales and only one agency will be authorized (by each league) to provide images for commercial use. Meanwhile the agencies also shifted the percentage they take from each sale in their favour. So now a league takes XX% cut, an agency YY% and the photographer receives z%. Some guys I know still making a living covering only sports in this manner in the US, but all of them say it's getting harder. I know from dealing with one agency that they want to eliminate all royalty type revenue sharing arrangements and only use photographers on a per-game buyout basis. Because they too are feeling the squeeze. They have to pump out more and more images to maintain/increase revenue. And if they can do it without royalty payments on commercial sales, all the better for them. Really the only choice for the photographers is yes or no. If no, someone else will jump at the chance.

Re: Washington Post - given the very deep pockets of the owner, they wouldn't have to cut staffing at all. They could increase it and bring back the golden years of journalism. But a strong, independent news media is theoretically not a friend of those in power gaming the system even more for their own benefit.



Feb 13, 2026 at 03:22 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
That's a really cool memory/experience. As mentioned though, 1988 was another time, another place. That would be virtually impossible nowadays with all of the security and accreditation layers at venues. At NFL games, for example, facial recognition is now used to control 'behind the scenes' and on-field access to only those who have been preauthorized, in addition to the scanning of credential barcodes, various visual cues such as armbands, wristbands, media vests, etc.

As for who is getting rich: as always, those at the top. I'm not going to blame massive player salaries because without them there would be no
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Absolutely disgusting how pro photographers, and photography in general, are being treated these days. Absolutely disgusting

This is exactly what I am talking about, when i say digital killed pro photography. Whether the tech had much to do with it or not, 25 years ago it seemed much, much more realistic to make a living photographing pro sports. Thanks to the greedy owners etc can you even do it today

So some fan makes a few hundred bucks selling a few images now and then. It is such a drop in the bucket looking at the value of the teams and the money being made, and really more free pub for the teams. Of course most fans aren't even going to sell any photosand dont have a clue how to





Feb 13, 2026 at 11:52 AM
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