p.1 #1 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Switching to Nikon so everything is new to me. Perhaps this is just part of the growing pains. But growing pains are still pains! :-)
Using the FTZ II on my Z5 II with a Zeiss ZF.2 lens. The Zeiss has a chip and electrical contacts. I was expecting to be able to adjust the aperture using the aperture ring on the lens just like one would do with that lens on a DSLR, but no. I have to put the lens at f/16 and adjust aperture with the finger wheel on the camera body. Apparently it is the same with any AF-D or AF lenses.
Do any chipped lenses with aperture rings allow you to control the aperture with the ring? Voigtlander Z mount maybe? Or Sony G lenses through a Megadap adapter?
Or is my Nikon body simply incapable of reading aperture values from a lens?
(In all fairness, while I really prefer aperture rings, I can can adapt).
p.1 #2 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
The only chipped lenses which you can use aperture rings on as designed are the native Z mount Voigts. Use a dumb adapter for older chipped lenses if you want to use the aperture ring.
Nikon would need to release a chipped adapter with an aperture feeler for what you want. They won’t.
p.1 #3 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
How did the Zeiss ZF.2 get aperture data into the body of the DSLR? Maybe it was only through a mechanical coupler which the FTZ doesn't have. And if the lens didn't have a pin for the aperture ring setting, then there would be no electrical path even if the FTZ had one. Only option would be for the body to tell the lens what aperture to go to (probably through a different pin) and hope the lens complies.
Well, at least the FTZ gives reliable EXIF data from my chipped Zeiss lens.
p.1 #4 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
darwinphoto wrote:
Switching to Nikon so everything is new to me. Perhaps this is just part of the growing pains. But growing pains are still pains! (In all fairness, while I really prefer aperture rings, I can can adapt).
I own 2 Voigtlander APO-Lanthars and 3 Zeiss.
I much prefer using the wheel on the body (with Zeiss lenses) than the aperture ring of the Voigts
p.1 #5 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Aperture ring works on Native Z mount chipped lens, Voigtlander, Viltrox, TTA, etc. Aperture ring also works on most adapted E mount lenses through Megadap, Viltrox, Neewer, etc.
p.1 #6 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
RoamingScott wrote:
Z mount Voigts.
This got me wondering whether you could do this with F-mount Voigtlander SL lenses (edit: scratch the parenthetical, that was wrong). I pulled mine out and sure enough they are Ai-S unchipped like the original Zeiss ZF. The SL II[n, s, etc.] are chipped Ai-P like the Zeiss ZF.2 and the ring has to be locked to minimum aperture.
Random bit of info for anyone else that might be wondering about that.
p.1 #7 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Lee Saxon wrote:
This got me wondering whether you could do this with F-mount Voigtlander SL lenses (on DSLR; I know you can't on the FTZ). I pulled mine out and sure enough they are Ai-S unchipped like the original Zeiss ZF. The SL II[n, s, etc.] are chipped Ai-P like the Zeiss ZF.2 and the ring has to be locked to minimum aperture.
Random bit of info for anyone else that might be wondering about that.
Yep, the newer ones like the Ultron 40, Color Skopar 28, etc that are chipped have to be min aperture locked. It's the only thing I don't like about the Ultron on Z.
p.1 #8 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
RoamingScott wrote:
Yep, the newer ones like the Ultron 40, Color Skopar 28, etc that are chipped have to be min aperture locked. It's the only thing I don't like about the Ultron on Z.
I know the 28 was introduced with the SL II line, but I thought the original 40 SL was the same lens with different cosmetics compared to the 40 SL II? Is it not? Google doesn't seem to know.
p.1 #9 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Lee Saxon wrote:
I know the 28 was introduced with the SL II line, but I thought the original 40 SL was the same lens with different cosmetics compared to the 40 SL II? Is it not? Google doesn't seem to know.
There are at least 2 chipped versions of the 40...the current, and the one prior which is a pancake style.
The optics aren't quite the same, as the older pancake needs a close focus filter and the new doesn't.
p.1 #10 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
RoamingScott wrote:
Yep, the newer ones like the Ultron 40, Color Skopar 28, etc that are chipped have to be min aperture locked. It's the only thing I don't like about the Ultron on Z.
This is really good to know. I was this -> <- close to getting a Skopar 28 in F mount thinking the aperture ring would be fully functional with the FTZ mount. I may still get one but now I'll be better informed.
p.1 #11 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Again, you can just use a dunb adapter if that’s how you want to use it. You just lose green box focus confirmation but IBIS will work fine if you set up the lens in the non-cpu section.
darwinphoto wrote:
This is really good to know. I was this -> <- close to getting a Skopar 28 in F mount thinking the aperture ring would be fully functional with the FTZ mount. I may still get one but now I'll be better informed.
p.1 #13 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
Actually, Nikon's PC-E lenses work on a Z camera via either FTZ the same as they do on a DSLR, as far as aperture adjustments and electronic data transmission are concerned.
p.1 #18 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
I can now confirm. Current Z mount Voigtlander lenses aperture rings work just fine. Aperture is controlled by the lens. Stopping down all the way does not enable body control of the aperture.
p.1 #19 · FTZ II & aperture rings - what the heck Nikon!
darwinphoto wrote:
I can now confirm. Current Z mount Voigtlander lenses aperture rings work just fine. Aperture is controlled by the lens. Stopping down all the way does not enable body control of the aperture.
I told you this in the very first reply of this thread
