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p.1 #1 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Hi.

I’m posting this here as I appreciate this can turn into a brand war, so wanted to post away from the Sony or Canon forums.

I am a GFX shooter who focuses on man made mostly abandoned landscapes and the people who sometimes occupy them. Slow, considered, high detail work that I print large and people study up close. The pixel count matters.

But with that project likely to carry on for a decade or more, and me wanting to have a second and third project on the go, the question of suitable camera for these projects came up. This is where I need help.

The new work will involve documentary type pictures of people engaged in a variety of activities, including sports. This is not a sports focussed project at all, but people doing energetic activists including some sports will be included. However, my approach of shooting wide to include the area and being detailed rich and printing large (ish) remains.

My projects take place in all weathers, you will often find me walking around in rain storms making photographs. I love bad weather.

The autofocus plus image size made me think Sony A7RV. 61mp, small, good AF, can adapt my M lenses if I choose to, GM glass is small and fantastic. Weather sealing is… apparently a bit basic.

Then I thought Canon R5ii. Half the resolution, should be fine for A2 prints, good AF, I think Canon build rugged cameras. But lens choice is much smaller, and the camera and lenses are much larger.

Editing Canon images takes me no time at all, they’re wonderful. Sony… yeah. I’d have to work on that.

Sony with 35mm GM lens is £800 less.

So I’m stuck. I do not care at all about video. I care about image quality and camera build quality. Close second is AF where people are concerned.

Coming from the GFX100s, if you wanted picture quality above all else but needed good AF and despised editing - and you shoot in rain storms - what are you choosing?

I’m buying today.

Thanks.



Jan 14, 2026 at 01:10 PM
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p.1 #2 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


fingerpuk wrote:
The autofocus plus image size made me think Sony A7RV. 61mp, small, good AF, can adapt my M lenses if I choose to, GM glass is small and fantastic. Weather sealing is… apparently a bit basic.

Then I thought Canon R5ii. Half the resolution, should be fine for A2 prints, good AF, I think Canon build rugged cameras. But lens choice is much smaller, and the camera and lenses are much larger.

Editing Canon images takes me no time at all, they’re wonderful. Sony… yeah. I’d have to work on that.

Sony with 35mm GM lens is £800 less.

So I’m stuck. I do
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You write that Canon's R5ii has "half the resolution" of the Sony A7rV. That's not correct. The Sony is 60MP and the Canon is 45MP. I print (Epson P9000) and you can go way larger than A2 with excellent quality from either of those cameras. (There is a difference between 45MP and 60MP, but unless you are pushing the outer boundaries of what is possible from 60MP — and 18" x 24" is WAY short of that — it is unlikely to make any difference at all.

As to your ability to edit Canon images versus Sony, you'll quickly learn the best route to editing images from either (any, for that matter) system after you use it a bit. Tons of people are producing utterly beautiful images from both brands and both of the cameras you are considering.

In the end, image quality and camera build (the two things you mentioned) are state-of-the-art from both brands.

To be honest? You can go with whatever you are feeling and pick either of these and you'll be fine for what you describe.

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One more bit of advice: If you are in the habit of making such decision "today" and you are still going back and forth between brands, and a out to make a decision based on what random posters say on a photo site you just signed up for today...


...you may want to take a look at your selection process and, potentially, how you might be giving int o purchase pressure that stands in the way of rational decision-making.

Do you actually. NEED the camera TODAY? (If so, flip a coin and buy one of them.) If not, slow down. Make a thoughtful decision. Live with it for a week or two until it feels settled. If you can order (online?) without fear and trepidation and doubts as you are about to click the "purchase" button, then fine. However, if you are at that point and still dealing with that agitation and uncertainty about selecting/buying, step away from the computer and wait until the decision is less emotional to make the purchase.




Jan 14, 2026 at 01:59 PM
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To me ergonomics matter a lot. While I do like the smaller lenses available for Sony, I don’t like using their cameras. If ergonomics matter to you, I’d check out those cameras on how they feel in your hands.

I’d also check whether the smaller lenses are weather proofed. They may be, I don’t know.

Otherwise, I think it’s a wash.



Jan 14, 2026 at 02:07 PM
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I would also think about getting rain protection gear for your cameras. There are many available that protects the camera/lens and still allow you to make your images. One way to go would be waterproof housings or rain “jackets” made by Thinktank and others. Just look at the sidelines of NFL games when the weather is not good to see how the photographers and video folks are protecting their gear while still working.


Jan 14, 2026 at 02:15 PM
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I seem to be unable to quote.

On the resolution, I mean half the resolution of the GFX not the A7RV.

You’re right about holding off, I’ve just been pondering this decision since before the R5II was released. I’m very close to wanting to start this project, I’m in the prep phase gaining access and suddenly I’ll be driving to a location and I’d like to have a month or two of use with the gear before that happens.

So maybe not today, but soon. I think that’s a quote.

I know the Canon will make editing easier. And I know that it’ll be more comfortable. And I know that I’ll shoot with a 35mm 95% of the time. And so… I’m leaning Canon. I’m going to go hold them both again.



Jan 14, 2026 at 04:00 PM
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fingerpuk wrote:
I know the Canon will make editing easier.


How so?

And I know that it’ll be more comfortable.

If you are sure of that and you can find the lenses you want, that could be your decision point.




Jan 14, 2026 at 04:23 PM
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fingerpuk wrote:
I seem to be unable to quote.

On the resolution, I mean half the resolution of the GFX not the A7RV.

You’re right about holding off, I’ve just been pondering this decision since before the R5II was released. I’m very close to wanting to start this project, I’m in the prep phase gaining access and suddenly I’ll be driving to a location and I’d like to have a month or two of use with the gear before that happens.

So maybe not today, but soon. I think that’s a quote.

I know the Canon will make editing easier. And I know that it’ll be
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I sometimes carry the R5 II and a7rV side by side in a backpack with different lenses.
They are quite different cameras, with the R5 II being fast to acquire AF targets and good for tracking them at 30FPS, with a good display refresh. The a7rV has just adequate AF acquisition for not so fast targets and the freeze frame effect for mechanical shutter mode at 10 FPS (slightly lossy), but in ES mode the view is like jello and 7FPS.

The Sony 61MP sensor is the best in 35mm format there is purely for IQ. It is also used in the compact a7CR (with controversial ergos), the a7rIV/a7rIVa, and by other brands. If your subjects are mostly static you will find it more like the medium formats, though corner-to-corner sharp lenses are a necessity for landscapes. The sensor is quite noisy so at higher ISOs you will need some good AI NR to clean it up.

I find that image processing speed between the two cameras is roughly equal to the ratio of MP, so four 45MP takes about the same as three 61MP. I use a Smallrigs lens grip extender/A-S plate on the a7rV to allow use of the human 5th digit without it hanging and being painful around the PIP (your digits may vary). The R5 II has a nice grip and good ergonomicas.

EBH



Jan 14, 2026 at 07:44 PM
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p.1 #8 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


This is useful thanks.

On editing, I struggle to get the Sony images to look how I’d like. Honestly I thought I’d be over that by now but no, they just look nasty and although this is 100% on me I don’t like editing and so whatever gets me to the look I want fastest, often wins. Which is why I still shoot film - but the cost 😕

I don’t do burst photography so FPS doesn’t bother me but the slow readout if that impacts AF does bother me.

I’m leaning Canon. Can you customise it to the same level as the Sony, where you can reset the entire camera based upon a button push and then go back upon button release etc? As that interests me very much. The ability to be set up for landscape then immediately shift all the settings to be more suitable for candid portraits etc.



Jan 15, 2026 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #9 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Ok, I tried holding both and the Canon is more comfortable but as I have small hands not by much, I’m used to walking around with a Q2 so these are both much easier to hold. The Canon L 35 is much larger and so the combination is not much smaller than the GFX. That’s a down side.

I took the same few pictures into my own card with both, will play in DXO and judge it based upon what falls out in terms of quality and effort to edit.



Jan 15, 2026 at 11:00 AM
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i shoot gfx and nikon z8. Use some m mount gems and they adapt extremely well (better than they do on Sony). I also use e mount glass through a megadap. Works great. The Z mount has opened up a lot of possibilities in terms of adapting lenses i love. Colors are nice out of the box and i dont have to futz with it like i had to with sony files. Have you considered a z8 ?


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p.1 #11 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Z8 is out. Too big, EVF didn’t impress. I hear battery life is poor? I’m still leaning towards the R5ii but I’ll look at my test images later.

I’ll also re review the Z8.



Jan 15, 2026 at 11:49 AM
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p.1 #12 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Decision made. R5 II and 24-70 ordered. The lens was head over heart thing, and no doubt will be used twice before I replace with the prime 35 which will never be taken off. Thanks all for the help and reflection.


Jan 15, 2026 at 04:07 PM
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p.1 #13 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


And… change of plan. Went with the A7RV after trying both for an extended time (a few hours). The Sony gave me higher quality stills and adapting my M lenses worked well. I may regret this, but it’s done. Canon cancelled, Sony ordered along with the 35mm GM prime and the 24-70 GM.

And good timing too I have a shoot coming up in 6 weeks that will make full use of the AF.



Jan 20, 2026 at 11:36 AM
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If there was ever an example of my point about making careful, thoughtful decisions, then waiting a while to let things settle, and not clicking the “purchase” button until you are truly certain, this is it…. ;-)


Jan 20, 2026 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #15 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Yep. You were right. A few extra days did the trick. Editing the images will be harder, but I’ll figure it out.


Jan 20, 2026 at 12:17 PM
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p.1 #16 · Help with a camera decision, close to a decision.


Damn! The A7RV is insane! The AF is nuts. Coming from GFX and Leica - this is a rocket ship. Yeah the menus are a mess but I rarely need them. Setting up the buttons and custom modes currently.


Jan 27, 2026 at 12:21 PM
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Just saw this. I was once a part of a "program management" training program, sponsored by a government program office for a rather large aircraft program.We were the "Future of the Program!"

We discussed was how do you choose when there isn't an obvious choice? Jokingly the facilitator presented the idea of the coin toss and one's immediate, first response. That, "Yes, I wanted that!" or, "No, I hate that!" He'd had some input from psychological side friends that suggested it but there was no real science suggesting it worked.

He also suggested that there was no major boardroom, CEO, Department secretary, etc., that if asking why a path was chosen, wanted to hear, "Well, we flipped a coin and this won."

Through no fault of our program, higher level heads changed plans and within a matter of months, the program was downsized, a lot, and 80 percent of us were let go.



Jan 27, 2026 at 02:08 PM
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Craig Gillette wrote:
Just saw this. I was once a part of a "program management" training program, sponsored by a government program office for a rather large aircraft program.We were the "Future of the Program!"

We discussed was how do you choose when there isn't an obvious choice? Jokingly the facilitator presented the idea of the coin toss and one's immediate, first response. That, "Yes, I wanted that!" or, "No, I hate that!" He'd had some input from psychological side friends that suggested it but there was no real science suggesting it worked.

He also suggested that there was no major boardroom, CEO, Department
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Talking to a lot of people about how they became loyal to a particular brand, I hear stories that are enlightening. Usually it doesn't involve so much logic as it does an inexplicable preference or some situation that randomly leads them there.

When I moved to digital DSLRs in the very early 2000s, why did I pick Canon? It was not some careful, thorough, logical consideration of the pluses and minuses of other options. No. My brother used Canon, so I did, too. If I had instead chosen Nikon or if I had later moved to Sony (which still cold happen), would my photography be much different? Nope.

Your point, though, about trying to explain a coin-toss choice is both humorous and telling. I think it is in or nature to want to have reasons for deterring that one thing is The Best and Better Than All The Others. The reasons are probably laudable — we don't want to waste our money, we don't want to feel like we've been duped, we don't want to wake up in a few months and have to do it all over again.



Jan 27, 2026 at 03:04 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
If there was ever an example of my point about making careful, thoughtful decisions, then waiting a while to let things settle, and not clicking the “purchase” button until you are truly certain, this is it…. ;-)


As someone with way too much unused gear, the best option is to rent before making difficult decisions.

EBH



Jan 27, 2026 at 04:16 PM
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A bit of topic shift, still, but I wonder how the "I went for ABC system because my "partner of some sort" has it and we can share gear and experience/system familiarity" Or following forum advice about going for a system one can share with family/friend. Something less than a formal business/organization pooling operation of some sort.

For example, my brother and I started with Minolta SLRs, I eventually went to KM/Sony A systems as did he. At some point I went to Nikon aps-c dslrs, he followed at some point. Then I added sony mirrorless, starting before Nikon was in that game. He, apparently has some now and a son-in-law has Nikon dslr gear, dragged kicking and screaming away from film. Yet in that 40ish years, only perhaps two, maybe three times we've ever "shared" gear. My daughter even accused me once, probably with some accuracy, that I was shifting clutter instead of adding to "his collection..."

I was wondering how often that intra-family/friends "sharing" thing actually worked out. If operating/traveling separately, who gets dibs on gear or if together, strikes me that there's a good chance,both might want the same gear or at least same lenses?



Jan 27, 2026 at 05:31 PM
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