p.1 #2 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Isn't the Sony A7 V a mid-tier full-frame body? It seems like it would compete more with the R6 Mark III than with any APS-C camera...? Does Sony have an R7-equivalent?
p.1 #3 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
garyvot wrote:
Isn't the Sony A7 V a mid-tier full-frame body? It seems like it would compete more with the R6 Mark III than with any APS-C camera...? Does Sony have an R7-equivalent?
Yes, the A7 V is full-frame, which has nothing to do with my question. I am just comparing two cameras priced similarly.
p.1 #4 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Speed, specifically sensor readout speed, needs to be pro-level. This is why I'm not interested in the current R7, or any RF APS-C cameras right now. I have the M6 II with the same basic sensor, and it ain't enough (and the resolution over ~20MP is more or less useless unless shooting in the most optimal conditions with the very best glass).
Beyond that, to live up to the '7'-series lineage, the camera really needs to be an R5 II body with said faster sensor. As above, I don't really care about resolution, but I'll bet that ~33MP that can do an upsampled, full-sensor 4k (so, sharp), and open-gate capability will be desired by a many.
garyvot wrote:
Isn't the Sony A7 V a mid-tier full-frame body? It seems like it would compete more with the R6 Mark III than with any APS-C camera...? Does Sony have an R7-equivalent?
Imagemaster wrote:
Yes, the A7 V is full-frame, which has nothing to do with my question. I am just comparing two cameras priced similarly.
You expect the rumored R7 II to be similarly-priced to the A7 V and R6 III?
p.1 #5 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Imagemaster wrote:
Yes, the A7 V is full-frame, which has nothing to do with my question. I am just comparing two cameras priced similarly.
I thought his question had everything to do with your question. You asked what would the Canon need? Well, it would need a full frame sensor to ever compare with the Sony. Comparing an apsc camera to a full frame doesn’t make sense to me.
p.1 #6 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Canon would have to start making crop sensor glass...why buy a crop sensor and have to use FF glass? They would also have let 3rd party glass come to the party.
p.1 #9 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Two different sensor sizes and pixel pitches are like apples and oranges. I might have some use for R7 II, but none for the a7V. I'd be more inclined towards an a1 II than the a7V. I would probably get a (rumoured) a7rVI at 80+MP that would also have some reach. Precapture is of low value to me.
p.1 #14 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
mogul wrote:
Canon would have to start making crop sensor glass...why buy a crop sensor and have to use FF glass? They would also have let 3rd party glass come to the party.
Plenty of crop-sensor owners have shot with FF glass for years happily even though you think they have sinned.
p.1 #15 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
johnctharp wrote:
Speed, specifically sensor readout speed, needs to be pro-level. This is why I'm not interested in the current R7, or any RF APS-C cameras right now. I have the M6 II with the same basic sensor, and it ain't enough (and the resolution over ~20MP is more or less useless unless shooting in the most optimal conditions with the very best glass).
Beyond that, to live up to the '7'-series lineage, the camera really needs to be an R5 II body with said faster sensor. As above, I don't really care about resolution, but I'll bet that ~33MP that can do an upsampled, full-sensor 4k (so, sharp), and open-gate capability will be desired by a many.
You expect the rumored R7 II to be similarly-priced to the A7 V and R6 III?...Show more →
From stills perspective A7V seems to be a better full frame camera than R6 III. It is a pity that Sony has largely neglected crop sensor options. High end APS-C is niche where Canon needs to fight with Fuji.
p.1 #16 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
Imagemaster wrote:
What would the Canon need to make you choose it over the Sony?
Three things would make it equal:
- Put a Sony sensor inside
- Change the mount from RF to E to get access to Sony GM primes and other glass
- Improve power management to 500+ viewfinder shots per CIPA
... and to make me choose it over Sony, make it 20% cheaper.
Imagemaster wrote:
To be equal to the Sony for me it would certainly also need to have pre-capture.
Meh... The high-fps pre-capture stuff is getting silly now. If photography is too hard for someone, just shoot video continuously and then ask AI to pluck frames it likes and post it on Instagram.
p.1 #18 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
tuomkok wrote:
From stills perspective A7V seems to be a better full frame camera than R6 III. It is a pity that Sony has largely neglected crop sensor options. High end APS-C is niche where Canon needs to fight with Fuji.
p.1 #19 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
old-gregg wrote:
Meh... The high-fps pre-capture stuff is getting silly now. If photography is too hard for someone, just shoot video continuously and then ask AI to pluck frames it likes and post it on Instagram.
My God!, you should tell many of those competent photographers they should not be using the latest camera features that allow them to get or more easily get those fast-action moments.
I bet you could capture those same action moments using manual focus.
p.1 #20 · Canon R7 Mk II (rumored) versus Sony A7 V
I wonder how many people would actually switch brands from Sony to Canon or from Canon to Sony based on likely incremental differences between cameras, especially if they already own a bunch of lenses for either system.
