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DWOfPaul wrote:
I have definitely become more picky about what gear I buy over the years, and maybe I should even compromise a bit more. Personally, a big factor, though, is that I have most of my "needs" covered by this point. So a lens really needs to either be different enough from the lenses I already have or make my life easier to tempt me to buy. I am not really tempted by a lens being slightly sharper or having slightly faster AF than a lens I already have at this point.

For example, if Nikon put out a 28-70mm f2
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This was what thought too when I picked up the Sony 28-70mm f2. I sold it off after 2 months and got the Nikon 35mm f1.2. If I am carrying a heavy and expensive lens, it has to give me joy using it… the 28-70mm just don’t. Sure it is razor sharp, good flare resistance, good af, but it has the look of f2.0 primes…



Dec 19, 2025 at 01:56 AM
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I would just buy either the Sirui or the Nikon one to be honest. There are people doing this for money using the Nikon one. People on here just pixel peep the bejesus out of everything and whine constantly. It's not a GM, but it's also not GM money. I went super side ways and got the Viltrox 1.2, which is said to be an excellent lens and isn't GM money. I'm not stuck in this narrow box of what I want so when something was offered that's outside the box while also being smaller than the S 35 1.2 I basically snapped the thing up on launch day.
wind30 wrote:
A good manageable 35mm f1.4 lens?

Do you know how popular that lens is? Emount has like 101 35mm f1.4 lens…






Dec 19, 2025 at 06:54 AM
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I would just buy either the Sirui or the Nikon one to be honest. There are people doing this for money using the Nikon one. People on here just pixel peep the bejesus out of everything and whine constantly. It's not a GM, but it's also not GM money. I went super side ways and got the Viltrox 1.2, which is said to be an excellent lens and isn't GM money. I'm not stuck in this narrow box of what I want so when something was offered that's outside the box while also being smaller than the S 35 1.2
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… ok I am not one of the guys who shoot brick walls at f1.4 and complain one of the corners is slightly softer… but have you seen the bokeh of Nikon 35m, f1.4 sample shots?? To put it nicely, it is errrm vintage look and very distinctive. If you like that look, good for you but I hate it.



Dec 19, 2025 at 07:41 AM
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It's a character lens. It's a different strokes for different folks deal. I'd probably pick up the Sirui over it. Gun to the back of my head if I was told to use it I'd use it though
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… ok I am not one of the guys who shoot brick walls at f1.4 and complain one of the corners is slightly softer… but have you seen the bokeh of Nikon 35m, f1.4 sample shots?? To put it nicely, it is errrm vintage look and very distinctive. If you like that look, good for you but I hate it.





Dec 19, 2025 at 07:54 AM
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This is such an annoying sliding scale discussion to me that I'm getting tired of having it.

1. Nobody is discussing anything here. You made a claim that's complete nonsense, and I pointed that out.
2. These fanboy attitudes like "Anyone who can't find something they like in my favorite brand has a problem" annoy me so much that I'm getting tired of them.

JadedWriter wrote:
I got tired of having it when people started telling me the XF WR 1.4 lenses are huge and these are light weight to me.

It's not about who perceives something as heavy or light, big or small, but about whether one thing is heavier and/or bigger than another. That's not a feeling, it's measurable. Simple as that. And both size and weight are real and legitimate priorities, and not contradictory ones, as you claim. I value compactness and the lowest possible weight? Then Nikon is the wrong brand for me, without any conflicting priorities.

JadedWriter wrote:
People want what they want.

Exactly, and if I can't find what I want from one brand, then I simply choose another that offers it. I don't understand where you see a problem with that.

JadedWriter wrote:
I don't care, me and this board very rarely agree on it.

Well, if you believe that something smaller is not smaller than something bigger, and something heavier is not heavier than something lighter, then that doesn't surprise me.

JadedWriter wrote:
As I said. If you can't find something native on this system you got issues.

If a compact and lightweight standard lens is my absolute priority and a particular system cannot offer one, then the issue is the manufacturer's lens range.

JadedWriter wrote:
I will stand by this discussion point.

Kindergarten level.




Dec 19, 2025 at 12:06 PM
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DWOfPaul wrote:
My gut is that if Nikon put out an S line of 1.4 lenses, they would end up being bigger than the Sony GM f1.4 lenses. Sony's compact designs do come with some compromises, for example, the 1.4 GM lenses have about a .5 EV more Vignetting than the Nikon 1.8 S lenses.

Nikon 50mm f1.8 S vs Sony 50mm f1.4 GM lens tip:
https://www.lenstip.com/577.8-Lens_review-Nikon_Nikkor_Z_50_mm_f_1.8_S_Vignetting.html
https://www.lenstip.com/645.8-Lens_review-Sony_FE_50_mm_f_1.4_GM_Vignetting.html

Nikon 85mm f1.8 S vs Sony 85mm f1.4 GM II lens tip:
https://www.lenstip.com/579.8-Lens_review-Nikon_Nikkor_Z_85_mm_f_1.8_S_Vignetting.html
https://www.lenstip.com/674.8-Lens_review-Sony_FE_85_mm_f_1.4_GM_II_Vignetting.html

If your subject is in the center of the frame, this may not matter much, but if you're doing something like astro photography .5
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I really don't understand what there is to discuss here. You said the 1.8 Z Nikkor lenses were a better choice than the 1.4 GM lenses in terms of size, and I pointed out that this isn't true, as the 1.4 GM lenses aren't any larger than the corresponding 1.8 Z Nikkor lenses. Why that is, and why someone prefers one over the other, is irrelevant in this context.



Dec 19, 2025 at 12:14 PM
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I have thought about picking up the Z 70-200 f2.8, but the F-mount 70-200 f2.8E is still so good and a workhorse lens that it's hard for me to justify it.

The 85 1.2 S is an epic lens. I wish I had more call to go that fast, but I tend to like a little more context in the background and the 1.2 just obliberates it


The 85mm is my fav focal length, I found out back in time when I was a beginner shooting the 50/1.4D on a Fuji S5Pro, oh my, the colors, DR and WB of that camera, sluggish as hell but I thought of it as a film camera with a display and a memory card, the 50mm equaling 75mm was my sweet spot, along time I collected at least 5-6 85mm and all of them with a distinctive character, my dad's Nikkor 85/1.8A, a Contax Planar 85/1.4, a Nikon 85/1.8G, best value for the money, the so much desired 85/1.4D aka the cream machine... the 85/1.2 was like jumping off the edge of a cliff without to know what's at the bottom, tons of money for an amateur, big and heavy like a champagne bottle and expensive as a case of Dom Perignon, not a lens you carry for the sake of taking a snapshot but I do, take it for a ride just for the sake of it, did also a side to side test with the 85D on a D850, it is amazing, maybe not as dreamy as the old cousin but fantastic.

Last summer a friend got married where I live and asked me to take photos during the ceremony, I felt this to be too much of a responsibility for me and suggested to get an extra "real" photographer but this was a fake wedding to host their closest friends and family in a beautiful location so official photos were already there and they like my work as being long time friends I already took photos of them, long story short after sunset I solely used the 85 on a Z8 and to my surprise focus was spot on even tho I never bothered to learn how to use the super complicate and accurate AF system from the camera, when I showed them previews they were astonished and I got very much of a gratification.

I would get the 70-200 if I had to think about "work" but if could I'd add the 50/1.2 and the 135 Plena, these Nikon lenses are stunning, I don't know how the Sony/Zeiss render and I have no doubt they do great but Nikon one more time gave proof they know their s*it...




Dec 19, 2025 at 01:46 PM
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GiovanniAprea wrote:
The 85mm is my fav focal length, I found out back in time when I was a beginner shooting the 50/1.4D on a Fuji S5Pro, oh my, the colors, DR and WB of that camera, sluggish as hell but I thought of it as a film camera with a display and a memory card, the 50mm equaling 75mm was my sweet spot, along time I collected at least 5-6 85mm and all of them with a distinctive character, my dad's Nikkor 85/1.8A, a Contax Planar 85/1.4, a Nikon 85/1.8G, best value for the money, the so much desired 85/1.4D aka
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I agree, the 85 1.2 is one of those magic lenses that, like the 105 1.4E, have a special look to them. It's not just about having a blown out background, it's about how they render, color, saturation, etc etc. What I also like about it is that they feel like a matched set across the 50 1.2 and 35 1.2 in terms of output, whereas the 105 1.4E tends to have a bit warmer feel to the files. This year I did quite a few senior portraits, and the 85 1.2 images stood out from the 70-200 f2.8E, so much so that I just left the latter at home for my last couple sessions. The lack of lens consistency was frustrating shooting Sony (and Canon to a similar degree), and likely why Nikon keeps their lens ecosystem closed for the time being. There's no doubt some solid lenses in Sony's lineup, but I want a cohesive kit of lenses that I know are going to deliver, not a hodge podge of different brands that have various tradeoffs or feel generic like much of the Sigma Art lenses. After a lot of poly-camera situations, the Nikon just is in that goldilocks zone for me. I am keeping an eye out for a ~$750 105 1.4E though... I shot this one of Jane Fonda with it, and I love how the gross LA lot looks blown out




Dec 19, 2025 at 05:17 PM
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I still enjoy shooting a D-SLR especially with the 58G and 85/1.4D, I kept the 20/1.8 for landscape and a few other lenses not really to scream about if not, maybe the 60G which I found doing really well for male portraiture, I am with you that if I could access a 105E within 600-700 I would go for it as to have a full portrait set on F mount and adapt it on a Z body but, still, I think if I was to do paid jobs a 70-200S would do great especially like in the situation I was in yesterday at a high school bands concert where the f2.8 would suffice with the great ISO noise of the Z8 and I can now tell the value of a zoom in such circumstances where I was forced to use a 50S and zoom by switching from a row of seats to the other just to change framing

Very nice photo of Mrs Fonda, bella!



Dec 19, 2025 at 05:59 PM
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I need to source a new lens hood for my 105 1.4, but I'm probably never getting rid of it. I need to find a good excuse to use it again, but I love the look of it.
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I agree, the 85 1.2 is one of those magic lenses that, like the 105 1.4E, have a special look to them. It's not just about having a blown out background, it's about how they render, color, saturation, etc etc. What I also like about it is that they feel like a matched set across the 50 1.2 and 35 1.2 in terms of output, whereas the 105 1.4E tends to have a bit warmer feel to the files. This year I did quite a few senior portraits, and the 85 1.2 images stood out from the 70-200 f2.8E, so
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p.5 #11 · Any Nikon and Sony shooter?


Let me say that the Sony 35 1.4GM is quite possibly my favorite Sony lens, next to the 20-70 F4. The 24 1.4GM follows it up. They are outstanding.

That said, I also own the Nikon 35 1.8S Z, the 35 1.4 Z, AND the Voigtlander 35 f2.

The Sony 35 is great, but it's not so great that you'd pass on any of the Nikon ones. I have an ETZ adapter, and I almost never mount the Sony 35 on the Z system.

What's cool is that I paid about $1200 for the Sony 35 GM, but I paid $480 for the Nikon 1.4. The size difference between the Sony 35, Nikon 35 1.4, and Nikon 35 1.8 is pretty much irrelevant. The difference is minute.

The Nikon 1.2 is ENORMOUS and not in my consideration space... but hey Sony doesn't have one.



Dec 19, 2025 at 08:48 PM
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Page 5 might be the wrong time to jump into the thread, but I will give it a shot anyway.

I am in both systems. Which you like better will largely depend on the type of photography you do. The Z8, the A7RV and the A1 II all have excellent AF with different strengths and weaknesses.

I shoot nature and landscape. My experience is that the Z8 is much better at finding an animal in a busy background than the A7 cameras and the A1. The A1 II with the latest firmware is getting close to Z8 at finding and is better at holding eye.

For BIF Z8 is good but A1 and A1 II are better. The frame rate and no blackout of Z8 make it much better than A7 IV and probably A7V.

For lenses The Z600mm PF and Z24-120mm are exceptional. The copy of the 14-24mmS I tried was terrible compared to the excellent copy of the 16-35 GM II that I have.

The Sony 400-800 f8 is excellent if you can live with F8. The 70-200 GM II and 300mm GM are exceptional

I wish Sony made a 500mm F4 and an improved 24-105 (or 120) that was competitive to the Nikon 24-120 which is surprisingly good.





Dec 19, 2025 at 10:59 PM
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Hi Bill, Have you tried the 600PF with the 1.4TC. If so how does it compare to the Sony 400-800?


Dec 20, 2025 at 12:40 PM
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Hi Bill, Have you tried the 600PF with the 1.4TC. If so how does it compare to the Sony 400-800?


I have compared them and they are fairly close depending on the conditions. At near min focus distance they are both great and there are examples below. At mid distance the 600 PF with 1.4X might be a tad sharper and has a bit more magnification. In low light the 400-800 might have better contrast and is a bit faster.

For mammals I would take the 400-800 for versatility. For birds where I know I need max focal length I might opt for 600 PF with 1.4X



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Sony A1 II with 400-800 G

  ILCE-1    FE 400-800mm F6.3-8 G OSS lens    800mm    f/8.0    1/2000s    400 ISO    -0.7 EV  





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Nikon Z8 with 600 PF + 1.4X

  NIKON Z 8    NIKKOR Z 600mm f/6.3 VR S Z TC-1.4x lens    840mm    f/9.0    1/2000s    400 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Dec 22, 2025 at 07:50 PM
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Thanks Bill for your comments and nice photo comparisons. I think I need more practice with the 600 and 1.4TC. I find it quite a bit more difficult to line up my shots vs the 600 alone. I no longer have the Sony A1 and only shoot with the Nikon Z8. I sold the 800PF because I found it more difficult to handle and already had to 600PF also as well as the TC, so decided to go with the smaller and lighter gear.

The photo below is with the 1.4TC but it is an easy shot.




  NIKON Z 8    NIKKOR Z 600mm f/6.3 VR S Z TC-1.4x lens    840mm    f/9.0    1/1250s    1800 ISO    -1.0 EV  




Dec 23, 2025 at 11:13 AM
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I currently shoot with a Sony A7R V and an A1 II, and I also own a Nikon Z9 and Z7 II.

I briefly owned the Sony A7 IV, but quickly got rid of it because of the rear LCD not being able to tilt in line with the lens axis making it difficult to use for low-level shots or for video. The A7 IV has an older EVF, the same resolution as the Nikon Z8, so it wasn't great for critical manual focusing.

I love a lot of the Nikkor Z lenses, but my Nikon gear is currently up for sale because I gave up waiting for Nikon to bring us modern camera features like the ability to save user settings, pre-capture, live view focus bracketing, or the ability to assign ISO control to one of the camera dials for manual shooting. I guess these are some of the reasons Nikon has overtaken Sony as having the worst depreciation rates.



Dec 29, 2025 at 01:13 PM
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Cliff L. wrote:
I currently shoot with a Sony A7R V and an A1 II, and I also own a Nikon Z9 and Z7 II.

I briefly owned the Sony A7 IV, but quickly got rid of it because of the rear LCD not being able to tilt in line with the lens axis making it difficult to use for low-level shots or for video. The A7 IV has an older EVF, the same resolution as the Nikon Z8, so it wasn't great for critical manual focusing.

I love a lot of the Nikkor Z lenses, but my Nikon gear is currently up for
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Not to hijack the thread, but I too have an A7iv and I'm not thrilled with its AF performance. I've only had it for a couple of months, but I'll probably be selling it soon.

My other two cameras are a Canon R6II and an OM System OM-5. I've been contemplating Nikon again (got rid of my D750 and several AF-D & AF-S lenses when the Z mount was announced). However, this time around I'll probably rent a body/lens outfit before spending money on any purchase. Had I rented before buying I would have never purchased my "regret" cameras (D750, 6dmk2, A7iv, Ricoh GRIII, etc.).



Dec 29, 2025 at 03:42 PM
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Cliff L. wrote:
I currently shoot with a Sony A7R V and an A1 II, and I also own a Nikon Z9 and Z7 II.

I briefly owned the Sony A7 IV, but quickly got rid of it because of the rear LCD not being able to tilt in line with the lens axis making it difficult to use for low-level shots or for video. The A7 IV has an older EVF, the same resolution as the Nikon Z8, so it wasn't great for critical manual focusing.

I love a lot of the Nikkor Z lenses, but my Nikon gear is currently up for
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If I were you I would wait until the Z9II before selling your Z mount lenses... if rumors are true it should re-define high end.

The 24-70mm f2.8 mkII also hints at the lead Nikon is taking in lenses formulation (14 elements vs 20 on the new Sony). It is going to apply to their up coming glass as well and considering how few they have released these past 2 years, we can safely assume that they have good stuff in the pipe about to be announced early 2026.

Cheers,
Bernard



Dec 29, 2025 at 09:18 PM
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Not opening a vendor war here but I often wonder about Canon coming from Nikon.


I recently made the move back from Canon to Nikon, and there’s some backstory behind it.

I grew up shooting Nikon and was deeply familiar with the system—D40, D90, D7000, D7100, D800, D810, and D850. When the Z system first came out, I had to try it and picked up the Z7. Unfortunately, autofocus at that time was rough, and I was missing shots constantly. A friend who shot Canon recommended switching, so I did—starting with the Canon R and eventually moving to the R5.

Fast forward about four years. I picked up Canon’s new 50mm f/1.4 VCM and immediately started getting lens errors. I sent it back to Canon four times—no exaggeration. Each time they said nothing was wrong. I sent videos of the issue and could reproduce it within minutes. I even sent the camera body in. After two months of dealing with this, I hit my limit. When that lens worked, it was incredible—honestly the best 50mm f/1.4 I’ve ever used—but the overall experience left a really bad taste in my mouth.

That frustration, combined with the fact that I genuinely missed Nikon, pushed me back. I missed the menu system, the direct access to things like bracketing and drive modes without menu diving, the ergonomics, and the tank-like feel. I missed all the little things. So now I’m shooting with a Z8—and a Zf, which is just fun as hell to use.

There are definitely tradeoffs. I do think the R5 has better autofocus than the Z8—not by a massive margin, but it does stick a bit better. That said, I’m still learning how Nikon’s AF system works, so take that with a grain of salt. The Z 50mm f/1.4 is very good, but Canon’s version is next-level… when it works. I generally prefer Nikon’s colors over Canon’s, and having ISO 64 is a big plus for me.

One area where I’ve struggled is astrophotography. The R5 was already a pain to focus on stars, but the Z8 has been even worse for me so far. Even with the starry live view settings enabled, all I see is a garbled mess of hot pixels instead of stars. I’m clearly missing something and plan to revisit it when Milky Way season comes back around in July, but so far I’m not impressed in that specific use case.

All that said, I’m happy with the switch. What this whole process really reinforced for me is that every system has tradeoffs. The grass is always greener. I have a buddy who switched from Fuji to Sony and loves it—especially the A1 II—but I’ve also heard plenty of complaints about Sony’s menu system and quality control over the years.

The takeaway for me is simple: no system is perfect. The key is choosing the one where your personal positives outweigh the negatives. That’s where Nikon landed for me.



Dec 30, 2025 at 12:02 PM
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I think Sony cameras are great, especially for professional work. I like their compact size and weight. The AF is still the best and the lens range is still the best BUT Nikon is much more enjoyable to use.

The ZF is beautiful, just to carry around, and the Z8 is probably the best camera I have ever used.
The “out of the camera” colours are more pleasing to a hobbyist like me.

But none of the above is important unless you have the lenses. I only shoot primes, so won’t talk about zooms. If you are going for the Sony f1.4 GM range you are fine and have the best, but there is no good 28mm in the range.

If you shoot f1.8/2 primes, like I do, and need a wide, 35mm and 50mm f1.8/2 the only place to get them in Sony is from sigma. And then I prefer sigma on the L-mount, like the Leica SL3 or Panasonic S1 IIe.

the Nikon 35 and 50mm f1.8 S lenses are perfect. And they first attracted me to the Nikon system.

With no AF Voigtländer has now taken over … but that’s a different story



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