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philip_pj wrote:
I'd never heard of a 'Z9', so looked it up so as to provide some facts, because factual material works so well, leaving readers to decide what they are looking for. Our cameras cover such a broad spectrum.
A Z9 weighs in at 1340 grams according to my sources. The a7rV is 723 grams, with both cameras holding cards and batteries. The Z9 is also down all of one stop of dynamic range from ISO 100 to ISO 400, and that is large. It's behind my 2014 a7II (the lowest DR Sony I have).
You might have more productively stated you need a fast and accurate AF and a huge body as primary criteria. Very few travel / landscape / street / found portraits photographers are going to want a Z9 at any price. Sony has more direct competitors to a Z9, no? You might have said so, to present a more balanced assessment.
Sony's overarching camera philosophy is to make small, reliable and very effective 'Leica-like' mirrorless cameras, from back when they introduced full frame mirrorless to the market. Not being afraid of competition, they opened the mount and encouraged all and sundry to make lenses for E.
I can do all travel with two bodies for the weight and bulk of one Z9, and carry fabulous MF lenses for use on them. And imagine, if you will, having that giant Z9 thing pointed at you on the street - not very people-friendly. It's just not a goer for so many important photographic genres.
Not a possibility, just so unsuitable for the things that matter to image quality. Yours is a sliver-thin genre, it seems. You might have missed it, but the entire imaging world is moving towards small cameras and lenses right now, cine video and stills - all.
Looked up the Z8 too: same DR shortfall from Sony, and a DSLR weight class of 910 grams - almost 200g heavier. It seem large cameras are in Nikon's DNA, as a genetic miscode in the modern world.
Millions of people use Sony cameras daily, and have no trouble with the issues you raise. See their market share for evidence.
You might have a hand problem, some do struggle with camera operation if their hands are inflexible or strange in an extreme way. I take XL gloves and find the Sonys very nice to use - all of them I've picked up. cheers, I hope you get to like the (free) Sony. You probably think it is worth what you paid for it.  ...Show more →
As someone who uses Nikon and Sony gear side by side, usually my Z8 and a7rIV, it's more nuanced than simple specs. Especially if you are just learning about the Z9.
For example, sure, sometimes I do enjoy the smaller size of my a7rIV, but the Z8 feels better in my hand, has light up buttons which are great at night, has a top display which is very convenient, and has more buttons for switching settings I commonly change. So the larger camera size gains you some features, too.
As for dynamic range, an important thing to keep in mind is that the a7V and Z9 have very similar dynamic range when using the electronic shutter, which ahinesdesign pointed out. So you only get the dynamic range advantage if you are taking photos at low iso and less then 10fps. If you are taking a video, high ISO, or using high FPS, you basically lose the dynamic range advantage.
At the end of the day, if one camera system completely dominated the rest, most of these conversations would end as most of us would all be using the same brand.
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