John Power wrote:
I love AI. A few weeks ago I had a case and the critical issue was determining the difference between a grace period and a late payment penalty provision in a contract that I was litigating. Yes I could have gone on my legal research program to look for an answer but for those of you who have ever done that (which I am sure if none or very very few) you know can get lost in all the case citations and spend a whole lot of time trying to find an answer to your question.
Instead, I went on to ChaptGPT and typed in the exact question. Within literally seconds I had the answer and relevant case cites. I then check those specific cases in my legal research program and they were accurate.
In another case I needed to determine the difference between 1st degree and 2nd degree misdemeanor Petit Theft both as to the dollar amount thresholds and penalties. I typed in the question in Chatgpt and in a few seconds had an accurate answer. My client thought he committed the 2nd degree version and I had to inform him that he committed the 1st degree version. I could given you many other example where this hated technology has assisted me in properly representing my clients.
The potential benefits in medical diagnoses, available procedures and when you do or do not choose one and so many other areas of that practice is phenomenal. AI will eventually lead us to cures for many non-curable conditions we deal with today.
Your hate of AI is misplaced. It is now changing and will continue to change the way we do many things for the better. There are still bumpy roads to travel but we will get there and we will all be the better for it. ...Show more →
The more you can do at your job using AI, the less they need you. That includes doctors, and also computer programmers since chat GPT can generate code, truck drivers probably not far behind since driverless taxis are already in SF.
AI is terrible for the environment. Massive power and water requirements.
Subjecting people to nuclear power risks to power a technologythat leaves them unemployed is just diabolical
AmbientMike wrote:
The more you can do at your job using AI, the less they need you. That includes doctors, and also computer programmers since chat GPT can generate code, truck drivers probably not far behind since driverless taxis are already in SF.
AI is terrible for the environment. Massive power and water requirements.
Subjecting people to nuclear power risks to power a technologythat leaves them unemployed is just diabolical
What century you living in? Automation has been in place for 75 years and has been getting cheaper and better long before AI. And yet we have historically low unemployment rates…who’d thunk that.
Sorry Mike but when one door closes (using your job example) another door opens. There will be many new jobs created as we transition to the AI platform that would not ever come to be if that excuse is applied. Send that AI crap to the junk heap because its going to make the entire world unemployed!!!!!!
Back in the horse and buggy days those operators took the same position you are taking...why do we need these newfangled car things, our horses and buggies are just fine and these car things are going to take our jobs away. And what did the advent of the automobile era bring? Billions of jobs worldwide in production, repair, taxi services etc. etc. that never existed before that era.
I could go on and on with other examples.
As Shakespeare says in Hamlet "thou protest too much." Maybe not a perfect analogy but seems to fit into this conversation.
Nothing diabolical about nuclear power. Makes a lot of sense to me. We don't stop making vehicles because a certain percentage of people are hurt or killed in car accidents. All technologies have their inherent risks and all we can do is use our best efforts to minimize them. So too with AI.
I don't think that any of us really know what the ultimate power and water requirements will be. You may know what the environment fanatics say but only time will tell what the final impact will be and again, evolving technology may provide solutions to those initial problematic issues.
Of course we are not here to argue with one another. You have your position and I have mine and I know nothing I say will change yours but if I told you I have discovered the AI company that will become the new Amazon and you can get into for $1 a stock now I suspect you might think about buying a few shares...or a lot of shares Just guessing...
I’m in the middle. I use AI tools in ACR and Photoshop and they are often very powerful and very useful. At the same time, I worry about some of the potential implications of its overuse and misuse in photography and elsewhere.
To use a photographic analogy, the question is not entirely black and white.
I’m in the middle. I use AI tools in ACR and Photoshop and they are often very powerful and very useful. At the same time, I worry about some of the potential implications of its overuse in photography and elsewhere.
There is always cases of abuse of new technology, the internet is a very good example of being ripe for abuse…yet think where we would be at today without the internet.
$$$$! I bought an R, but the glass is just way too expensive. To replace the Holy Trinity is ridiculous. I guess with inflation considered, the RF glass is just as expensive as the EF glass win new lenses would come out. But even before people started dumping EF glass for R glass, there were people dumping EF for E mount and you could grab EF for great prices!
Instead of getting an R6 to replace my 6D and an R7 to replace my 7D2 I just use the R when I want better AF. I have now invested into micro four thirds to cut the weight down when image quality is not paramount.
Still using my 5DIV for golf, wildlife (mammals) and real estate. Very rugged, no-nonsense and reliable camera.
I can shoot an entire golf tournament with one battery and a 600mm F4 IS attached. Or go outside in the snow all day with 50% battery life in search of wildlife. Left it in the sun at 30 C or shooting inside a -25C warehouse and then using it outside at 25C after it dried out
However, I will buy the R6III because it has the right mix of Mpx, price and performance and because 5DIV will be 8 years old next year. I will expect terrible battery life and ergonomics and a not so good viewfinder experience but It will be a major upgrade in other categories. Will keep the 5DIV.
John Power wrote:
Sorry Mike but when one door closes (using your job example) another door opens. There will be many new jobs created as we transition to the AI platform that would not ever come to be if that excuse is applied. Send that AI crap to the junk heap because its going to make the entire world unemployed!!!!!!
Back in the horse and buggy days those operators took the same position you are taking...why do we need these newfangled car things, our horses and buggies are just fine and these car things are going to take our jobs away. And what did the advent of the automobile era bring? Billions of jobs worldwide in production, repair, taxi services etc. etc. that never existed before that era.
I could go on and on with other examples.
As Shakespeare says in Hamlet "thou protest too much." Maybe not a perfect analogy but seems to fit into this conversation.
Nothing diabolical about nuclear power. Makes a lot of sense to me. We don't stop making vehicles because a certain percentage of people are hurt or killed in car accidents. All technologies have their inherent risks and all we can do is use our best efforts to minimize them. So too with AI.
I don't think that any of us really know what the ultimate power and water requirements will be. You may know what the environment fanatics say but only time will tell what the final impact will be and again, evolving technology may provide solutions to those initial problematic issues.
Of course we are not here to argue with one another. You have your position and I have mine and I know nothing I say will change yours but if I told you I have discovered the AI company that will become the new Amazon and you can get into for $1 a stock now I suspect you might think about buying a few shares...or a lot of shares Just guessing......Show more →
AI data centers take massive amounts of power, and need a lot of water to cool them. This isn't debatable, they already exist. You are just severely misinformed
If anyone is a lunatic, it is the people not concerned about the environment. You do realize that a global extinction event is happening, don't you?
Fukushima is still melting down and expected to take decades to resolve, in the best of circumstances (in a region hestong up recently.) Chernobyl area isn't going to be farmed for 200 years due to radiation , in the midst of a global population explosion requiring more food, even boars in Germany often have too much radiation to be considered safe to eat, years later, not anywhere near the site. Nuclear is not the answer.
" You do realize that a global extinction event is happening, don't you?"
No I didn't. Because isn't but feel free to believe those youtube video if you want
Kind of reminds me of those guys who stand on street corners with the signs that say REPENT BECAUSE JESUS WILL BE HERE SOON. WE ARE IN THE END TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course they have been staying that for over 2000 years.
Anyhow, I am very happy with my Canon 5D4 and EF lenses but thanks for letting us know the end is near. You have motivated me to get out and take more photos before we are all extinct...
OK, I have said enough. Anything else I post will be on topic. I will save my arguments for the courtroom. I promise Fred...
John Power wrote:
" You do realize that a global extinction event is happening, don't you?"
No I didn't. Because isn't but feel free to believe those youtube video if you want
Honestly you don't seem to know much.
Funny you mentioned Amazon they are currently laying off 14,000 to 30,000 people, in a flat economy, certainly some/most of it is AI related, as they are doing well and expected to cut jobs in coming years.
John Power wrote:
Sorry Mike but when one door closes (using your job example) another door opens. There will be many new jobs created as we transition to the AI platform that would not ever come to be if that excuse is applied. .
Right, and most of those AI created jobs will likely be filled by AI enabled Robots.
Hey Mike, given my success at being a lawyer for 46 years now I have made a number of good arguments. I have been a prosecutor and for many years I have been a criminal defense lawyer. How many murderers, rapists and robbers have you put in prison? And how many innocent people have you kept out of prison? I have done both many times over.
I would say I made a few good arguments to juries in those cases to get those results but I am sure based on your attitude that you would have done even better.
John Power wrote:
Hey Mike, given my success at being a lawyer for 46 years now I have made a number of good arguments. I have been a prosecutor and for many years I have been a criminal defense lawyer. How many murderers, rapists and robbers have you put in prison? And how many innocent people have you kept out of prison? I have done both many times over.
I would say I made a few good arguments to juries in those cases to get those results but I am sure based on your attitude that you would have done even better.
You cannot argue with fanboys or fanatics. Best to just not respond. Or try and play it down. AI is here to stay everyone knows it, allot are scared or in denial.
Well said and I am done in any event. I am more concerned now with properly executing my major and natural minor scales up and down my guitar neck.
However, back to photography I did a quick cruise to Nassau and back last weekend and took my Ricoh GRIIx and as nice a travel camera as it is, it has the 40mm lens and I miss the zoom on my Canon G5X. Yes the Ricoh has the APS-C sensor but I am questioning whether there is a noticeable difference between the two given the same settings. There is a nice looking G5X II in B&S but a grand for a camera released in 2019 is a bit much in my opinion.
I haven't gone R yet because I see no need to. I drive a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with 183,000 miles so that may explain why I am stuck in the obviously photographically deficient EF world.
There is a photographer named Ansel Adams and I was looking at some of his stuff recently. Just awful. Now if he had had a Canon R5II with the proper landscape lens then maybe things would have been different but he was just born way too early to produce real quality photographs.....
I guess he did the best he could with the technology available at the time...
gkinard1952 wrote:
You cannot argue with fanboys or fanatics. Best to just not respond. Or try and play it down. AI is here to stay everyone knows it, allot are scared or in denial.
Well, pardon me for knowing what I'm talking about. I guess I'm a fanatic or fanboy for not saying the dumb crap you apparently want to hear
John Power wrote:
Hey Mike, given my success at being a lawyer for 46 years now I have made a number of good arguments. I have been a prosecutor and for many years I have been a criminal defense lawyer. How many murderers, rapists and robbers have you put in prison? And how many innocent people have you kept out of prison? I have done both many times over.
I would say I made a few good arguments to juries in those cases to get those results but I am sure based on your attitude that you would have done even better.
Mostly your arguments that I don't know what I'm talking about seemed to go in the opposite direction.
Just guessing...
