Happydan wrote:
Non m-mount simeras don’t have the nudge at 0,7m focus distance
Only my 50 simera does (m mount)
More than the bump, .5m is too long a MFD for most focal lengths at or below 50mm.
Mfd is one of the first things I check on a lens. If the mfd is longer than 10% of the FL, that counts against it.
i want my 28 to go to ~.28m, and my 35 to go to ~.35m...
Yes, good point!
But how many lenses can focus this close…?
That’s a big reason why i love the CV 21 nokton with its 23cm MFD - in combination with the 1.4 aperature the background melts to oblivion!
You did see my pics comparing the 50simera at 45cm MFD and with helicoid adapter CV v1 down to 35cm - that’s pretty good IMO and is my new bokeh beast for a 50m
The 50 nokton has a similar MFD to the simera
(I do miss the biting sharpness of the nokton from f/2!)
I agree that i would like the simera 28 to focus closer than 40. Previously I had mounted the 28 2.8 color skopar m mount to Sony with the helicoid adapter and got very close in terms of MFD.
The just released CV 28 APO for Sony has a MFD of 28cm, but that is almost 3x the price of the simera.
So this would be an expensive request!
ISO1600 wrote:
More than the bump, .5m is too long a MFD for most focal lengths at or below 50mm.
Mfd is one of the first things I check on a lens. If the mfd is longer than 10% of the FL, that counts against it.
i want my 28 to go to ~.28m, and my 35 to go to ~.35m...
Was walking Bo with the 50 simera today.
It annoys me that there are barely any clicks in the aperature ring.
Freds review reads “ I would prefer these increments to be more distinct and pronounced, as the ring tends to rotate too freely”
In clicked mode it feels almost like the video-mode with no clicks. Have to learn the muscle memory for this!
I made some aperature series by continuous shooting while rotating the aperature ring quickly. Some pics have repetitive aperature, because I couldnt clearly differentiate without EXIF data. Was worrying that my camera couldnt meter quickly enough - but sometimes it was just the change in lighting as I was shooting beneath trees and the midday sun was strong.
Attached an image to show vignetting wide open.
So far I find this lens great for mid distance portraits that obliterate the background. Theres a lot of swirl with busy backgrounds. See the bougonvillea pic attached (taken wide open at 1.4 with the wind blowing the leaves and flower!)
The Aperature roll videos are unedited. The added pics apart from the vignette minor quick edits with C1.
Took some aperature series with the 35 Simera while I was bored at the train station outside Munich.
Took a shot at each full stop (the numbers printed on the ring)
Slight changes in composition as this was hand held and I kept looking up at the aperature ring (I wont continue to do this as it is annoying)
Changes in color cast due to quick editing - too much for today…
Apologies for the crappy aperture rolls above
I noticed that some pics are not in correct sequence
And don’t show very much - especially for the 35 simera
My first attempt at this, can only improve - lol
Quick side note; I had originally attached these lensband minis to the mount , but they kept nudging forward, restricting the smooth turn of the focus ring. So now I put them over the focus-scale (which I don’t use for zone focusing)
I align the aperature line either with the “d” of the lensband logo, or mark it with a pen on the colored lensbands.
Improves grip a little and removes the slight worry of dust-sand getting into the little orange holes .
That building stands out! The 28 really suits your style because you are outside so much!
Heres reviews on the thypoch Simeras at 35mmc.com
Vincent the author of the 28&35 review, really has a gripe with the font they used…
There is also a post on the 21 by Vincent.
Hamish posted a bunch of pics on flickr from the 50 on his m9 with a funny sensor that made all the pics super yellow. But have a look at the color saturation of those parrots! Amazing OOC!
In the simera 35 review above, there are pics at the bottom directly comparing the simera to the Leica original, and I found the simera pics to be much much better. A real accomplishment that DZO was able to improve on this lens design from ≈2000.
Unusually among the new age general release Chinese lenses (leaving aside makers iike LLL), Thypoch have stuck close to their stated aim of producing rangefinder style lenses based on contemporary designs by Leica (35/1.4 and 50/1.4) and Cosina (21/1.4).
The 21mm and the 75mm are the later releases and neither is (yet) made in other than M-mount. Maybe we can anticipate more review activity in the future, and (dangerously) comparisons with the competition would be of great interest, if only because of the very different design paths leading to these two lenses, in terms of glass selection.
Unlike the middle Simeras, these two will sell (or fail) on their merits, because they retail in the $800-900 range. The 21mm will always be a minor affair for several reasons, but the 75mm plays into the direction Leica is taking for the EV1. That alone will put in a corner of the room alongside the other short telephotos from Cosina, as something M users can enjoy afresh with an in-camera EVF. At 370 grams, it makes for a combined EV1 + 75/1.4 weight of just 865 grams.
The lens is well up to 61mp density, that much is certain. It's also the most cinematic of the five in character. It very likely points the way to what the maker may do in the near future, as it resembles the footage of the DZO Arles cine range, and even build quality is higher than the early releases. Inevitably, it will find greatest favor with Nikon users, even with only now-traditional focusing methods of magnification and sensible peaking. It should follow the 50/1.4 into Z-mount very soon.
It's a pleasure to use, and would be my favorite lens if the others did not exist - and they are more important for my work profile. The 75mm results encourage one to work harder to get it right, and as this reviewer points out, f1.8-f2-f2.4 work very well by extending the transition zone and reducing focus errors, better for non-main subjects.
This review features super quality images of the lens, in a treatment of both film and digital camera usage. For a quick scan, see the comparisons with a CV 50/1.5 and Leica 90/2 pre-asph - at 22:00. Performance is striking at near focus, but so is our controversial friend - color. See if you notice the difference.
We can learn a lot from such MFD comparisons, and here the Simera shows wonderful depth and focal plane / bokeh separation, and smooth within-bokeh transitions. It came out of the blue for me, I had enough confidence in the maker to buy it, but it's way better than expected.
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The influencer has spoken again. Later releases and neither made in other than M mounts yet What a joke ! For a manufacturer that makes lenses in one mount and slaps on different mounts without optimizing for sensor stacks, should be no problem slapping z, e mounts and "releasing" it. Or am i mistaken and is Thypoch actually optimizing it for the different systems ?
What a joke ! For a manufacturer that makes lenses in one mount and slaps on different mounts without optimizing for sensor stacks, should be no problem slapping z, e mounts and "releasing" it. Or am i mistaken and is Thypoch actually optimizing it for the different systems ?