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p.1 #1 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Having a tough time cross posting pics from my new Simeras in the various review threads on the individual lenses
So starting a seperate thread for all things Thypoch Simera
Im using Sony e mount for the 28 and 35 - and M mount for the 50

Edit [Nov17, 25] Impressions so far:
28&35 have much more pronounced aperature clicks, hardly present on the 50
Sony mounts seem to be less quality construction than the 50 m mount which feels more solid
28&35 have a slight wobble to the focus ring, 50 doesn’t.

Absolutely amazing 14 aperature blades that remain round (and not like the CV 35,50APO at only 3 f-values)
This is a beauty to watch when it moves and the specular highlights remain round - not edgy/octagonal or whatever.

28 and 50 perform well in IR, 35 not
35 has a concave front lens element
Field curvature negligible on all three lenses

35 has no ED (low dispersion) glass element - pictures look very life like and IMO much better acutance & color saturation than the Leica original (see review comparison on 35mmc.com). I’m not pixel peeping but enjoying overall rendering/IQ & personal impression.

28 and 50 have 1 ED element each. Prefer the “pop” from the 28
50 has major swirl bokeh at mid distances
50 can be attached to a helicoid adapter to reduce MFD from 45 to ≈ 35cm (with CV close focus adapter v1) without loss in close up sharpness - obliterating the background even more (making it even smoother).

Appreciate the Floating lens element design in the simeras at a fraction of the price of comparable lenses (neglecting the 21 and 75 simera that are more expensive cosina copies full of ED glass)

I’m selling my other lenses in this focal range because the simeras satisfy so much!
35 is my daily carry, 50 my bokeh master, the 28 for very environmental portraits & landscapes

Post away dear commerades of Light!

Jai
Daniel

Edit; I was buying CV color skopar for their epic B/W contrast but these simeras beat the color skopar in B/W and their max aperature is 1.4 as opposed to CV Color skopar 2.2/2.8/3.5… best of both worlds
IMO
I’m in love with this lens lineup!

Here are my first impressions of the simera 35 (e-mount) no post processing





Simera 35 wide open at 1.4 - I like the pop

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 snapshot wide open to show the bokeh fall off

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/1250s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 wide open - bokehtastic!

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/80s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 wide open

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 : Tulsi flower up close - wide open at 1.4

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







Did someone say bokeh!!!???

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/8000s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Oct 27, 2025 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #2 · Thypoch Simera Thread


I personally don’t see any field curvature with the 35
Simera
I like it so much that I sold my CV 40 nokton - my all
Time favorite lens!!

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Oct 27, 2025 at 05:53 PM
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p.1 #3 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Simera 50 1.4 first impressions m mount on Sony a7r3 with voigtlander adapter (non helicoid version)

No post processing apart from simple B/W conversion

Cheers
Dan





I was legit scared of Hanna in this costume!

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/160s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Notice the insane backlight’ and details are all there - no purple fringing excellent reds !

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/125s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  







STRAIGHT OUT OF CAMERA!’ Brooo…!

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/640s    400 ISO    +0.3 EV  







BIKERS AGAINST CHILD ABUSE - SIGN ME UP!

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/100s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Look at this fade and the sharp foreground face

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    640 ISO    +0.3 EV  







BW conversion with C1 (B/W punch preset) nothing else edited

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    640 ISO    +0.3 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #4 · Thypoch Simera Thread


I think I heard that the 35 isn’t as sharp as the 28. Is that your finding as well?


Oct 27, 2025 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #5 · Thypoch Simera Thread


goo0h wrote:
I think I heard that the 35 isn’t as sharp as the 28. Is that your finding as well?


I heard that too - from everyone !! But the Black Friday deal for 369 had me very curious and I’m very glad that I invested in this lens!!!! So highly recommended - after one walk with the dog !

Let me share my opinion later when I unbox the 28 simera have to test it first
These are only my first impressions after one event with the 50
And one walk with the dog using the 35
Love at first sight TBH!

Gotta test the 28 first - this 35 had me mesmerized enough for one day 😃
I honestly can’t see how this simera 35 is not sharp.
I was concerned that their design doesn’t accommodate the thicker sensor stack glass of non-Leica M cameras - but I can’t find any issues with field curvature or anything else

But then again, I’m not pixel peeeping and don’t have a $5-7k Leica summilux to compare

I see images in their overall IQ rendering/impression
The colors (especially red and green) are so well saturated’ the contrast is UNBELIEVABLE in black and white which I prefer for post processing (would normally also use an orange filter, but not on these simeras!!)

Even these few shots that are not anything special are sharp ENOUGH
These are STELLAR optical designs in a solid housing with declickable aperature ring and focus tab - and they are available (for non e mount) for $369 + tax atm for their Black Friday deal
Get them before the 100% tariffs start Nov 1!!!

From first impression, I find the 35 sharper than the 50 and bokeh is excellent - especially for a 35mm!

these simeras are breathing a big breath of fresh life and inspiration, I want to take much more
Snaps than usual!

Heres a few more impressions from
The 35, ALL WIDE OPEN at 1.4 , no post processing - just reduced the 85MB lossless RAWs into tiny 1 MB JPEGs





SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/8000s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2000s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/8000s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







SIMERA 35 at 1.4 midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #6 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Normally I snap carefully because of the massive 85MB file size
Of the RAWs

But since today, I wanna snap as much as possible
And totally disregard the file size
That says a lot for me
Because my old
Computer couldn’t handle the large file sizes and would constantly crash
So I had to upgrade to a m4 iPad Pro, I’m still getting used to handling such massive lossless files

But, OH so worth it!



Oct 27, 2025 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #7 · Thypoch Simera Thread


it looks interesting. Though, some shots at different apertures would be nice. Even with a 1.4 lens, I rarely shoot it all the way open. I like the option, but tend to use 2-2.8 and 8.


Oct 27, 2025 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #8 · Thypoch Simera Thread


goo0h wrote:
it looks interesting. Though, some shots at different apertures would be nice. Even with a 1.4 lens, I rarely shoot it all the way open. I like the option, but tend to use 2-2.8 and 8.


I purposefully shot all this at 1.4 so that I can tell you the f/stop!

Because with the funny aperature click spacing I have NO IDEA what f/stop I’m at
Because I don’t look at my lens but compose wide open and then stop down if necessary

The fact that 1.4 is already so amazing means the world to me because you don’t HAVE TO stop
Down

Attached some pics stopped down,
Don’t ask me what f/ stop - probably down to f/4 as the ring turns quite a bit and then I’m still only at f:4

No further post processing applied
I don’t like the strong yellow color cast in the leave picture, but that’s prob because of the strong sun directly up ahead





Simera 35 stopped down

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 stopped down

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/1600s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 07:32 PM
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p.1 #9 · Thypoch Simera Thread


And two pic sequences stopping down
With the simera 35

Sorry, absolutely not great pics but you get the idea
Bokeh is still smooth af until whatever f stop I went to (prob only f4)

Cheers,
Dan





Wide open 1.4

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Stopping down some

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/100s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Stopping down more

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/60s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Stopping down some more

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/60s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







At this point I was satisfied with this quick test and didn’t stop down any further

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/30s    250 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Second sequence
background as busy as possible
Simera 35

Not 100% sure that I got
The sequence in correct order
Hope this helps

I like - mucho

💖
Dan





Simera 35 1.4 wide open

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 stopping down

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 stopping down







Simera 35 stopping down




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p.1 #11 · Thypoch Simera Thread


it does. thanks.


Oct 27, 2025 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #12 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Even though I’m not Used to the uneven spacing of f stops on the aperature ring

I totally get why they did this: these simera lenses are stellar performers wide open
so much so that stopping down to f/8 or smaller isn’t all that necessary….!
So they are truly lenses to be used at large aperatures

Previously only my best lenses could render excellent when WO - such as the CV 65/2 macro apo la lanthar.
I was close to getting the CV 50/3.5 apo lanthar ($550 used on mpb) for this reason. So glad that I didn’t!
Also the filter thread size of 49 allows much more light in than 39mm or similar filter thread size alternative - so my iso won’t bump up too fast!

Here’s a few crappy landscape test shot WIDE OPEN and my dog Bo wide open up close (about 5 feet away)

Cheers,
DAN





Simera 35 wide open at 1.4

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 wide open at 1.4

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/1250s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Simera 35 wide open at 1.4

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #13 · Thypoch Simera Thread


See the following post by @philip_pj - and the attached lens diagrams
Original post by Philip on the simera 50 review thread page 26:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1878983/25/

This is how our master researcher concludes his post:

And many online people are seeing it unfold in front of their eyes. Good times at last. The ancien regime has been rocked, but their products will have to improve now. Or they won't make it.

I wholeheartedly agree - it’s now time for a changing of the (avant) garde

Leica designs for optical perfection to resolve twice the necessary line pairs and their new lenses are ready for 100mpix sensors easy . For sure you pay for that, both in terms of cash and character

I always wanted Leica esque IQ - and won’t pay Leica prices - that fund their parent company Blackroc k , which in my personal opinion is as evil a company as we have playing parasite on this beautiful world.
I’m so happy to pay a fraction of Leica glass and get such satisfying images! After only one day of testing OMG!

philip_pj wrote:
Lenses encourage the kind of photography they are good at doing. The Simeras encourage the kind of photography that is quite different from regular modern stills photo lenses - there are ways of using them that make them very different from the usual fare. Not much of a reveal - it is PEOPLE photography. And these above are a pleasure to see, mate.

On the 35mm, it came out and was met with a storm of derision. It looked different, it was based on an M lens (let's forget all the 'Sonnars' over the decades), it came after the first wave
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Oct 27, 2025 at 08:32 PM
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p.1 #14 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Two epic videos on YT regarding the simera 50:

1) MACRO MARVIN : The Best Affordable Leica Summilux Alternative - Thypoch Simera 50mm F1.4 - Everyday Photograhy

2) BOKEH THERAPY WITH JACK WANG : Thypoch Simera 50mm f1.4: A New Legacy? | Manual Focus Street Photography

Highly worth watching!



Oct 27, 2025 at 08:43 PM
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It's hard to notice field curvature when almost all your shots are taken up close at minimum focus distance - any lens would blur the background beautifully in that situation. But there's one mid-distance shot that's more realistic, the one with the palm tree, where it becomes obvious. You can see the background starting to come back into focus. There's clear field curvature here: look at how soft the rain gutter is, just about ten feet behind the palm tree. Then check the top left and right corners - those palm trees are maybe a hundred feet away, yet they actually look sharper than the gutters.

Same goes with this photo with Bo where the far, back-right tree trunk/branches are sharper than the grass that's directly behind the dog.


Happydan wrote:
I personally don’t see any field curvature with the 35
Simera
I like it so much that I sold my CV 40 nokton - my all
Time favorite lens!!

@stevespencer might want to take note as he’s been super careful with bad reports from Bastians Review and comments by others




Oct 28, 2025 at 12:52 AM
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p.1 #16 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Thanks a lot for comment!

I’ll check more into it with pics at a distance ! I’ll post more samples soon.

I’ll be careful to test for this!

Best regards & good night
Dan
Thanks again, very much!

dumplinknet wrote:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/91/2971891.jpg

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/10/2971910.jpg

It's hard to notice field curvature when almost all your shots are taken up close at minimum focus distance - any lens would blur the background beautifully in that situation. But there's one mid-distance shot that's more realistic, the one with the palm tree, where it becomes obvious. You can see the background starting to come back into focus. There's clear field curvature here: look at how soft the rain gutter is, just about ten feet behind the palm tree. Then check the top left and right corners - those palm trees are maybe a hundred feet away, yet they
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Oct 28, 2025 at 01:09 AM
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p.1 #17 · Thypoch Simera Thread


Thanks for this work above, Happydan! I'll have to get that 35mm, the 3D is so very good. It has just one asph element, and no ED elements, so maybe the theory is right that ED glass damages image depth. The 35mm is the weakest in MTF terms, but as we are all learning, MTF is not what it's cracked up to be, coming as a reformed believer in it.

I'm not a natural 35mm user, but I enjoyed the RX1 for years. Time to start again on that part of the work flow, I'm sure I missed something. It often takes a lens to get you used to a focal length, I've found. The 28mm focal length has always been solid for me.

I'll start populating the thread over the next day or so, it can be an ongoing resource. Others too hopefully.

Thypoch want to know what people thought they should do next, which I take to mean what lens they should make. They have been quiet by Chinese standards of late. An 18mm or a 100mm, or something else special?



Oct 28, 2025 at 01:26 AM
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p.1 #18 · Thypoch Simera Thread


lol, please don’t give me more lens options to consider 😆 but if, I would choose a 90mm. Had been eying the CV 90 2.8 apo skopar over the 90 2 ultron before thypoch totally took over my lens radar!

That’s definitely a first ; a manufacturer asking the market (ie Philip) what they want. Chapeau!
Just like when they dropped the inifinity lock on the focus ring of the early m-mount 28 and 35 when many people complained - very appreciated flexibility in production!

Maybe you can help with the field curvature issue with your 28. I’ll test the 35 tomorrow in a food Forrest

Shoot wide open with subjects at varying distances from mid to far distance , correct??

Totally noob of me, i know - I have more experience with close up macro work and people portraits close to mid distance



Oct 28, 2025 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #19 · Thypoch Simera Thread


I guess an e-mount 50/1.4 is coming? I notice there’s a z-mount, but not yet e.


Oct 28, 2025 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #20 · Thypoch Simera Thread


goo0h wrote:
I guess an e-mount 50/1.4 is coming? I notice there’s a z-mount, but not yet e.


I hope so. I asked them but they wouldnt give me any info on when we can expect an Emount version of the 50mm simera lens. Does anyone here have any information about a possible release date?



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